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By Antigone cat czarina daniel sssssss dave dougie droopy eri gee hal heather j kalli margret moonit nate ophelia patrick r.c. sarah spider tbone trace on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 01:52 pm:

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By Antigone on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 01:56 pm:

    3080 Ogden Ave
    Milford, CT 06460
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By Dani on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 02:14 pm:

    I'm heartbroken that my name wasnt included in that list.


By Rabbi jesus on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 02:18 pm:

    Subject: Russian Military Website Reviews Chechen Official Websites, Dismisses all as Propaganda, part of a "World Wide Web of TERRORISM"

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    Source: Venik's Aviation - Aerospace News and Technical Information
    URL: http://www.aeronautics.ru/
    Date: 4 Dec 2000
    Type: Web Pointer; Web Sample
    Service: MSANEWS
    Title: World Wide Web of TERRORISM

    TEXT:

    World Wide Web of TERRORISM
    http://www.aeronautics.ru/chechnya/terror01.htm

    Internet is successfully used for war propaganda. This fact can no longer
    be disputed. Not after the war between NATO and Yugoslavia. A different
    question is the value of Internet to terrorists. If you think about it
    impersonally, terrorism itself is a form of propaganda - making one's
    ideas and ideals a public matter. CNN enters your life through the cable
    and terrorists - through the JFK airport. Anyone on the Net can look
    legitimate, respectable, even reasonable. One does not need to kill and
    destroy to make oneself heard. Policing the Internet effectively is
    impossible now and, hopefully, will remain impossible in the future.
    Digesting information just as digesting food is a task better handled on a
    personal level. The best thing one can do to counter real-world murderers
    and their virtual-world advocates is to make public aware of their
    activity.

    In January Russia's Chief of Staff Col. Gen. Valery Manilov released
    a list of 12 web sites allegedly supporting Chechen rebels. The number of
    such sites is actually much greater - at lest one or two hundred. These
    range from small personal pages with obscenities and moronic threats to
    comprehensive sites located on commercial servers and operated by seasoned
    propaganda professionals. While the first kind of anti-Russian sites are a
    nuisance at worst, the professional sites are quite effective at spreading
    lies and damaging Russia's image. The following is a brief review of some
    of such sites, based on the list released by the Russian military command
    as published by www.internet.ru

    There are some interesting patterns in design and locations of
    pro-Chechen sites. Nearly all web sites supporting Chechen terrorists are
    based on the servers in the United States. Most of such sites have a
    compact layout and are well-structured making them easy to move from one
    server to another. That's a professional approach. "News" articles are
    also written by professionals and made to look as creditable as possible
    even though rarely contain even a single word of truth. No profanities, no
    obscenities - just well-written lies. The sites mainly target the Western
    audiences and sometimes - Russian. The following is a brief compendium of
    most significant sites apparently supporting Chechen terrorists. Just keep
    in mind that various computer companies and network administrators
    mentioned in this report are not associated with pro-Chechen sites in any
    way other than providing their web hosting and other Internet services.

    www.kavkaz.org - this site is the premiere "information" outlet
    created by Chechnya's "propaganda minister" Movladi Udugov specifically to
    support Chechen rebels. This site is linked to by many Western news
    agencies including BBC, MSNBC and others.

    Who?

    The Kavkaz.org web site was organized by Movladi Udugov -
    Chechnya's senior propaganda official, who is currently being sought by
    Russian police. An order for Udugov's arrest was issued by the Russian
    Prosecutor General's Office.

    Movladi Udugov was born in 1962 in Grozny. In 1988 he
    graduated from the Chechen-Ingush State University with a degree in
    economics. After graduation Udugov worked for the "Orientir" newspaper as
    the senior editor. Later Movladi Udugov worked as the press-secretary for
    the Chechen President Djohar Dudayev and in 1991 was appointed Chechnya's
    Information and Press Minister. During the war of 1994-1996 between
    federal center and Chechen separatists, Udugov actively supported the
    rebels and has greatly contributed to spreading anti-Russian propaganda in
    the West. In January of 1997 Movladi Udugov participated in Chechenya's
    presidential elections but gathered under 1% of the votes. Under President
    Maskhadov, Movladi Udugov became Chechnya's First Vice-Premiere and the
    Information Minister.

    Where?

    The main server of Kavkaz.org is currently located south of
    Los Angeles, California, near Huntington Park and South Gate. The site is
    located on the Delta Internet Services network of the Concentric Network
    Company (1400 Parkmoor Avenue, San Jose, CA 95126-3429). The Kavkaz.org
    site has a mirror at www.argun.org

    Kavkaz.org Delta Internet Services network location.

    Kavkaz.org Concentric Network Corporation server in Los
    Angeles.

    Kavkaz.org front page - March 13, 2000

    Argun.org WebHosting Com, Inc. network location.


    Argun.org SURAnet network location. Complete network details
    for www.kavkaz.org:

    Delta Internet Services (NETBLK-DISI-BLK3)
    a Concentric Network Company
    1400 Parkmoor Avenue
    San Jose, CA 95126-3429

    Netname: DISI-BLK3
    Netblock: 216.237.128.0 - 216.237.191.255
    Maintainer: DISI

    Coordinator:
    DNS and IP ADMIN (DIA-ORG-ARIN) hostmaster@CONCENTRIC.NET
    (408) 817-2800
    Fax- - - (408) 817-2630

    Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

    NS0.DELTANET.COM 207.155.183.90
    NS1.DELTANET.COM 207.155.184.100

    ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE

    Record last updated on 23-Sep-1999.
    Database last updated on 10-Mar-2000 17:32:22 EDT.

    Complete network details for www.argun.org:

    WebHosting.Com Inc. (NETBLK-NETBLK-WEBHOST-1)
    111 Peter St. Suite 700
    Toronto, ON M5V 2H1
    CA

    Netname: NETBLK-WEBHOST-1
    Netblock: 205.178.128.0 - 205.178.191.255
    Maintainer: WHCI

    Coordinator:
    Apted, Mike (MA152-ARIN) mikea@WEBHOSTING.COM
    416.260.5411 (FAX) 416.260.1873

    Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

    NS1.DYNAMICWEB.NET 205.178.159.134
    NS2.DYNAMICWEB.NET 205.178.138.137

    Record last updated on 20-Apr-1999.
    Database last updated on 13-Mar-2000 05:30:45 EDT.

    www.amina.com - the official web site of the Chechen government
    (Maskhadov's administration). This site is linked to by major Western news
    agencies.

    Who?

    Organized by Movladi Udugov (see above) and maintained by the
    agents of the Chechen government in the West.

    Where?

    Exact server location is not known. The server is located in
    the U.S. probably near San Diego, CA.

    Front page of the amina.com site.
    Complete network details for www.amina.com:

    ATMNET (NETBLK-ATMNET-BLK4)
    5440 Morehouse Dr, 4500
    San Diego, CA 92121

    Netname: ATMNET-BLK4
    Netblock: 209.75.0.0 - 209.75.255.255
    Maintainer: ATM

    Coordinator:
    Van Baalen, James (BJV-ARIN) vansax@ATMNET.NET
    619 643 1812

    Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

    NS1.ATMNET.NET 207.67.247.4
    NS2.ATMNET.NET 207.67.247.6

    ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE

    Record last updated on 05-May-1997.
    Database last updated on 10-Mar-2000 17:32:22 EDT.

    www.chechentimes.com - a respectable-looking online "newspaper"
    operated by a group of Chechen activists in the United States. The Chechen
    Times specializes in re-printing news articles by major Western media
    sources, throwing in a few of its own anti-Russian pieces from time to
    time for good measure. A simple way of pushing propaganda while
    maintaining a fiduciary appearance.

    Who?

    The site's operators do not make a secret of it:

    Lyoma Dishni
    Editor-in-Chief

    William Rawlins
    Editor

    Mohammed Siddiqui
    content advisor

    Where?

    The official mailing address is: 725 15th Street, N.W., Suite
    606 Washington, D.C. 20005. The server location is not known. Network
    associations are listed below.

    The front page of The Chechen Times -
    March 13, 2000
    Complete network details for: www.chechentimes.com

    TierraNet Inc. (NETBLK-TIERRANET)
    8895 Towne Centre Dr. 105
    San Diego, CA 92122
    US

    Netname: TIERRANET
    Netblock: 209.240.128.0 - 209.240.159.255
    Maintainer: TIER

    Coordinator:
    Scott, Brian (BS261-ARIN) brian@TIERRANET.COM
    (619) 625-0811

    Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

    NS1.TIERRA.NET 209.75.4.2
    NS2.TIERRA.NET 209.75.4.7

    ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE

    Record last updated on 30-Apr-1999.
    Database last updated on 10-Mar-2000 17:32:22 EDT.

    www.qoqaz.com - "Jihad in Chechnya" is one of the most vocal
    anti-Russian sites on the web. The site, or rather a collection of sites,
    is maintained by Azzam Publications (www.azzam.com - was under
    construction, current address http://archiveonline.tripod.com/) and has
    multiple URLs and versions is several different languages. The site has
    mirrors at , http://www.qoqaz.net, http://www.qoqaz.net.my, and
    http://www.qoqaz.de. A serious, well-financed propaganda effort.

    Who?

    Qoqaz.com and its mirrors are operated by Azzam Publications -
    a group of Islamic religious fanatics. The home page of Azzam Publications
    openly supports terrorism. In its FAQ section Azzam Publication suggests
    that those who want to help fighting Jihad should be "going to the lands
    of Jihad and physically fighting." The Azzam Publication's current web
    site (http://archiveonline.tripod.com/) is based on Tripod.com network.
    Their main site currently under construction (www.azzam.com) is on the
    OLM, LLC network near Chicago (see detailed information below).

    Where?

    Qoqaz.com network location is near Chicago, IL (British UUNET
    PIPEX network). It's English mirror - the www.qoqaz.net.my is using a
    redirect address from the Asia Pacific Network Information Center located
    near Kuala Lumpur. The Qoqaz.de mirror is also based near Chicago, while
    use re-direct address from Germany.

    Qoqaz.net front page - March 13, 2000

    Qoqaz.com network location

    Qoqaz.com network location

    Qoqaz.net.my redirect network

    Qoqaz.de mirror

    Azzam.com network location

    Azzam.com network location

    Network details for Qoqaz.de:

    OLM,LLC (NETBLK-OLM-03)
    3080 Ogden Ave
    Milford, CT 06460

    Netname: OLM-03
    Netblock: 216.71.0.0 - 216.71.223.255
    Maintainer: OLM

    Coordinator:
    Administrator, Dns (DA16-ARIN) dns@AXXS.NET
    630-357-8538 (FAX) 630-357-8545

    Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

    NS.HOST4U.NET 207.58.117.9
    NS2.HOST4U.NET 209.150.128.15

    ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE

    Record last updated on 23-Nov-1999.
    Database last updated on 13-Mar-2000 17:48:53 EDT.

    Network datails for Azzam.com:

    OLM,LLC (NETBLK-OLM-04)
    3080 Ogden Ave
    Milford, CT 06460

    Netname: OLM-04
    Netblock: 64.33.0.0 - 64.33.31.255
    Maintainer: OLM

    Coordinator:
    Administrator, Dns (DA16-ARIN) dns@AXXS.NET
    630-357-8538 (FAX) 630-357-8545

    Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

    NS.HOST4U.NET 207.58.117.9
    NS2.HOST4U.NET 209.150.128.15

    ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE

    Record last updated on 01-Feb-2000.
    Database last updated on 13-Mar-2000 17:48:53 EDT.

    Network details for qoqaz.net.my:

    Asia Pacific Network Information Center (APNIC2)
    These addresses have been further assigned to Asia-Pacific users.
    Contact information can be found in the APNIC database,
    at WHOIS.APNIC.NET or http://www.apnic.net/
    Please do not send spam complaints to APNIC.

    Netname: APNIC-CIDR-BLK
    Netblock: 202.0.0.0 - 203.255.255.0
    Maintainer: AP

    Coordinator:
    Administrator, System (SA90-ARIN) sysadm@APNIC.NET
    +61-7-3367-0490

    Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

    SVC00.APNIC.NET 202.12.28.131
    NS.APNIC.NET 203.37.255.97
    NS.TELSTRA.NET 203.50.0.137
    NS.RIPE.NET 193.0.0.193

    Record last updated on 18-Jun-1999.
    Database last updated on 13-Mar-2000 17:48:53 EDT.


    This rather brief review of four top pro-Chechen sites reveals that
    all of them are located in the U.S. It is also quite clear that people who
    maintain these sites are not merely "concerned citizens" they try to
    appear but professional propaganda agents. If there was a site based in
    the U.S. that supported Jihad, say, in LA, such a site would have been
    closed by American authorities five minutes after it went online.

    Apparently, when various "virtual" extremists call for Jihad against
    Russia, American law enforcement agencies are being more than lenient.
    Instead of assisting Russia in shutting down sites that spread hatred and
    threaten lives of innocent civilians in Russia and elsewhere, American
    authorities engage in academic arguments with Russian law enforcement
    agencies on the fine points of jurisprudence.

    March 13, 2000


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By Antigone on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 02:51 pm:

    I didn't post the second entry in this thread, and have no idea what that address is for.

    First post IP:
    209.220.17.3

    Second post IP:
    216.249.135.202 at Kentucky State University. Interesting.

    Who was it that posted about Kentucky recently?

    Next person who uses my handle gets an asshole tattooed on their left nipple.


By Czarina on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 03:42 pm:

    I believe thats the school "s" attends.

    I think it might be time to give the dean a little call,and give him the link to this post.

    I suspect he might find it most interesting.


By pez on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 04:00 pm:

    hey.... what about me? my name wasn't in that first post.

    *pouts*

    not exactly like i've been an active poster lately. but i'm here.


By Xyrea on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 04:02 pm:

    EEEwwww. Imagine: Nipple tattoed as ass after childbirth.


By Nate on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 04:26 pm:

    oh shit, sorry pez. i blew it leaving you out.


By pez on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 05:40 pm:

    s'ok. it's not like my ego is damaged or
    anything.


By Platypus on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 05:59 pm:

    There's something nice about being an endangered species.

    Pez, you and I can hang out.


By semillama on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 06:01 pm:

    I assume you left me out since I'm not a black jew but a black subgenius. I'l let it slide. Interesting that the long cutnpaste post no one bothered to read was originally from an Ohio State BBS, here in Columbus.


By pez on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 06:16 pm:

    yes, lets.

    who needs to be part of the "antigone cat
    czarina daniel ssss dave dougie droopy..."
    club anyway?

    lets be exclusive.


By Nate on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 06:32 pm:

    oh jesus christ. i didn't mean to leave you or platypus out, sem.

    for chrissakes. I'M A FUCKING STONER, OK?

    what do you expect?

    i meant to leave dani out, though.


By Dani on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 06:44 pm:

    And I thank you for it.


By Antigone on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 07:03 pm:

    :p


By Nate on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 07:16 pm:

    sure you do, dani.


By Dani on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 07:36 pm:

    I sure do, Nate.


By Eri on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 08:41 pm:

    Well thank you Nate for including me. For once I am not a total black sheep :)


By moonit on Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 02:17 am:

    and you remebered me you lovely boy.

    or unlovely depending on whether or not i wanted to be included


    i am making no sense today


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