Went out on a date


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By Antigone on Friday, January 10, 2014 - 03:40 pm:

    For the first time in about 8 years I went out on a date with
    someone other than my ex wife. It went well, I had a good time, I
    but I don't think she's into me. (She ditched right after dinner,
    which was two hours of lively conversation, because she had to get
    up at 5am.) Maybe I read too much into her attitude, but I'll let her
    call me if she wants to, and won't initiate.

    She's cute, funny, and also a software geek. I was a touch nervous
    but I don't think I made a fool of myself. :) And it's perfectly fine if
    she doesn't want another date. I only met her because a mutual
    friend invited me to her party, then the friend left before I got there.
    The mutual friend was trying to set us up (she told me so) and I was
    upfront about not being ready for dating, but I figured what the
    hell. But I'm still not completely ready, and hence my willingness to
    let things die on the vine if she doesn't call me back. If she does,
    who knows? :)


By droopy on Saturday, January 11, 2014 - 12:29 am:

    aw, you dawg!


By la on Saturday, January 11, 2014 - 01:05 am:

    Lively conversation = good.
    Left after dinner because she has to get up at 5am =
    she's an adult.

    But you should call her because you'll probably have
    a new friend if you do.


By Pepper on Saturday, January 11, 2014 - 02:30 am:

    Antigone, I wish you the best of luck. The last few days, the weather was hell for some of us.

    A friend of mine wanted to hire me to do him a part-time job on data analysis. The funny thing was that, I haven't held two different job for the last eight years. So, I decided to give myself a try.

    As of right now, I am watching;" Wives with knives".


By Antigone on Saturday, January 11, 2014 - 11:10 am:

    I'm an introvert, la. Randomly adding new friends who may
    not want them is not my thing. :) If she wants a new friendship
    that's cool, but I won't push it.


By Ophelia on Saturday, January 11, 2014 - 07:04 pm:

    I agree with la. You should invite her to do
    something else. Find something you want to do
    anyways that would be more fun with her and see if
    she wants to come along. That's not pushing it, I
    don't think, just giving it a chance. She might not
    know that you enjoyed the first date otherwise, and
    she can always say no if she's not interested.
    Cause who knows, maybe she's shy too?


By Antigone on Saturday, January 11, 2014 - 11:17 pm:

    I talked with the mutual friend today and it appears the gal
    wants a man who will sweep her off her feet. I don't feel
    particularly motivated to sweep someone off their feet when
    they express no overt interest in me.


By The Watcher on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 05:13 am:

    No comment.


By Pepper on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 12:40 pm:

    Me neither.


By Ophelia on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 09:11 pm:

    Hmph, well yeah, it wouldn't be fun if it feels one-sided, that's for
    sure.

    I'm just a sap who wants people to put themselves out there
    because of that chance that it might be great. Plus, I think that a lot
    of people have a hard time doing that - myself included, which
    means that most of my relationships/flings would not have
    happened if the other people hadn't pushed a little extra to make
    sure their interests were clear. My current boyfriend is the
    exception to that. I know that he appreciates the fact that I let
    him know I was interested at the start of our relationship, since he
    was the shy one. He let me know he was plenty interested soon
    enough.

    So my opinions have more to do with that than with your particular
    situation, since I obviously don't have that much to go on.


By Ophelia on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 09:12 pm:

    Why does it do this line break thing? It's not happening in the
    preview.

    Is it because I use chrome?


By Antigone on Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 11:40 pm:

    Nah, it happens for me with any browser on a mac or ios.

    Anyway, I'm not ready for a relationship. That's partly what
    makes me not want to pursue her, but mostly it's that I have
    absolutely no tolerance for games these days.


By la on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 02:16 am:

    "Wants a man who'll sweep her off her feet" Wha?
    Hearing that..... yeah. Ew.

    More than anything, do what you're comfortable with,
    but if there's something you want that makes you a
    little uncomfortable, go for it.


By Antigone on Monday, January 13, 2014 - 02:30 pm:

    Oh, I was uncomfortable just going out on a date. :) But that made
    me nervous, which made me talkative (for me) which meant I
    actually carried on a real conversation. A win/win!


By Ophelia on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - 09:50 pm:

    I agree with la about that part.

    Well, both parts of what she said actually.


By heather on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - 03:41 pm:

    Waiting to see if she'll call is super lame. For the record.

    Life is short dumdum.


By heather on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - 03:43 pm:

    Also wanting to know what the hell kind of data pepper analyzes.


By Spider on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - 04:06 pm:

    Wow, that was the most coherent post Pepper has ever written.


By Antigone on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - 07:49 pm:

    If she won't call how do I know she really wants to see me?
    I've already told her many times I enjoyed her company and
    that she can call me any time. When it comes to relationships
    I believe in equal rights and not forcing myself on women. If
    she wants to be around me she'll have to show the minimum
    of enthusiasm. Otherwise what's the point?


By heather on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - 08:13 pm:

    What can I say to so many bullshits.


By Pepper on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - 08:20 pm:

    Hi Heather, a friend of mine hired me ,cause a guy who used to work for him quitted for a better job and pay.

    Antigone, It is some kind of attention that she wanted to get something from you, like a stalker did that to me. I personally and honestly don't know what's in her mind. but am afraid of that lady who been doing this to me. You know, in Illinois, citizens can now carry concealed gun. By that time when I am done with work, I get in the car, I drive car fast like hell to get home quickly as possible.


By Antigone on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - 08:21 pm:

    Say whatever you like. But if you don't want to add anything
    constructive then fuck off.


By jaq on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 - 11:14 pm:

    " When it comes to relationships I believe in equal rights and not forcing myself on women."

    OK, but it sounds like you might be excusing your passivity or fear of rejection as "equal rights." As you wish, but how is that "equal rights"? And what makes you think this person, or anyone, wants you to grant them those "rights"?

    You said you might not be ready. Sounds like you're trying to get ready. You will be.



By la on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 12:35 am:

    I think it boils down to this: if you want to spend
    time with someone, let them know. If you don't,
    then don't. Waiting for someone to contact you
    first is silly.

    ---

    If I had only known that as a teenager....


By Antigone on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 01:05 am:

    Except I did contact her first. I asked her out on a date. We
    went out on a date. Is it so odd to expect her to reciprocate?
    Maybe I should just badger her until she responds, but then I'd
    be creepy, right?


By Antigone on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 01:14 am:

    So, jaq, you think it's right for men to insinuate themselves into
    women's lives, even if they're not wanted?


By heather on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 03:01 am:

    It's not my job to help you see where you're being an idiot with
    terrible arguments. Bonus: I don't even care.

    Fuck on.

    Hired you to what, pepper? What kind of data are we talking about?


By jaq on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 08:14 am:

    that's not anywhere close to what I said.

    Good luck with your problems.


By Antigone on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 11:23 am:

    And I didn't say anything about passivity. You had no problem
    adding that to the conversation, however. I guess I'm not
    afforded the same freedoms. Ponder that.


By Antigone on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 11:31 am:

    Heather, you apparently care enough to be insulting while not
    adding anything constructive.


By heather on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 01:22 pm:

    I am just telling the truth, if you find it insulting, well, there you
    have it.

    I should not have been ableist - I apologize for using the word
    lame.


By Antigone on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 02:22 pm:

    The absolute truth? You have access to that? Are you an Oracle of
    Delphi? And "dumdum" is the truth?


By heather on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 03:39 pm:

    I do have access to that, but this isn't that.

    Dumdum was not any kind of truth,
    I just imagine my friend Val saying it
    and it makes me smile.


By jaq on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 08:18 pm:

    "I guess I'm not afforded the same freedoms. Ponder that."

    Ponder what? Another expression of passivity? You're not afforded freedoms? By whom? Your words here express passivity. You want someone to call you. Or maybe not. Someone has to afford you freedoms. Those are passive statements.

    If you don't like me pointing this out, well that's a problem for you, I suppose. No offense intended.

    As I said, good luck. Sounds like you're going through a rough time. If being argumentative makes you feel better, knock yourself out.


By Antigone on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 08:56 pm:

    Afforded the freedom to interpret the meanings of others
    words. You got to interpret my actions as passivity, and did so
    again just now. Yet you don't accept when I interpret the
    meanings of your words.

    I was active. I asked her out on a date, picked the restaurant,
    engaged her at the date, then told her she could call me
    whenever she liked. If she doesn't accept that I interpret it as
    her not being interested in me. Is that so wrong? That makes
    me passive? I simply don't accept that. It means i treat her as
    an adult woman who doesn't need her hand held, doesn't need
    my prodding. She can make her own decisions, and I accept
    those decisions. Maybe I should make decisions for her?


By jaq on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 10:09 pm:

    dude, I didn't say anything about what you should or should not do or about the woman in question specifically.
    you purposefully misinterpreted my words to be argumentative. i could speculate as to why, but that's your problem and you're not paying me. if that's what you need, have fun with it.
    whatever you need, have fun with it.
    what do you care what some stranger online thinks?

    you don't need me to give you permission for anything. i'm fat and gay and won't admit it.
    and i don't hang around here regularly so someone else might have to take over this conversation, but i do wish you health and happiness, and as i said in my first message...sounds like you might not be ready for a relationship yet but you will be.

    i'm not arguing with or attacking you. if you need an argument to get your rocks off, start a political thread or something.




By Antigone on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 11:26 pm:

    Nah, all of the conservatives left long ago, and Nate only plays
    one on TV. :)


By Antigone on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 11:27 pm:

    And how do you do the colored text? I dun fergot.


By la on Friday, January 17, 2014 - 02:01 am:

    Ah, didn't realize you were already active. Good
    job. Group hug. My last post is half about this
    thread and half reminding myself that I should go
    the fuck outside and do things and stuff. Maybe
    find some friends to invite to a birthday party
    because I'm not going to have one by sitting around
    and playing Everquest 2 all the time.


By The Watcher on Friday, January 17, 2014 - 05:20 am:

    This is one conservative that's still hanging around.

    If she hasn't called by now I think she is waiting for you to call her.


By sarah on Friday, January 17, 2014 - 02:35 pm:


    Don't call.


    Until you want to.




By JusMiceElf on Saturday, January 18, 2014 - 12:10 pm:

    Eh. If she hasn't called you, move on, unless you really really
    want to see her again. When I got back into the dating scene,
    the only women I went out with more than once who clearly
    indicated their interest, via text, email or phone. I did go on
    kind of a dating spree, so I was fine with lots of first dates that
    didn't go anywhere. I think it's completely fine to have a good
    first date and move on.


By jaq on Sunday, January 19, 2014 - 10:54 am:

    colored text privileges come with the platinum VIP membership. email mt for details.



By Danielssss on Sunday, January 19, 2014 - 04:09 pm:

    Anti, you know i have no opinions at all. Gee sus,
    this is the most animated the boards have been since
    someone last had a baby with two heads and came out
    spewing fuck you you ass. Thanks for the diversion.
    I didn't think anyone dated anymore.

    @ la, it's Everclear.


By The Watcher on Sunday, February 16, 2014 - 01:03 am:

    Ok, It's been to long since you're last report.

    How's the dating going?


By heather on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 01:36 pm:

    I am so sick of
    know-it-all-cis-white-dudes

    I can't even tell you

    CAN'T
    FUCKING
    EVEN
    TELL
    YOU

    FUCK YOU

    I am telling you

    And in parallel, somewhat
    sick of myself


By Pepper on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 02:07 pm:

    Hi Heather...........


By droopy on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 01:08 am:

    heather, tell us more


By heather on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 02:26 am:

    What is there to tell?
    Just look around.


By Antigone on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 03:12 am:

    Bored and want to start a fight again, heather?


By heather on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 05:36 am:

    Not bored.
    Bro.


By droopy on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 01:22 pm:

    i just wanted to hear an old-fashioned rant
    gimme that old time irreligion


By Pepper on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 08:19 pm:

    Heard the news this morning about the aircraft got shot down at Ukraine/Russian border. Putin did it again?


By Antigone on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 08:38 pm:

    Hah! Heather, you don't know me, even after all of these years. I'm
    about as non-bro as they come. But hey, stereotype all you like.


By heather on Thursday, July 17, 2014 - 10:10 pm:

    Well, you get half of it.


By Pepper on Friday, July 18, 2014 - 11:47 am:

    Are we getting too old for putting up the fight?

    Well, anyway, I am looking forward for a nice weekend, this whole week been cooler all due to polar vortex. Thanks Canada!


By Antigone on Friday, July 18, 2014 - 03:42 pm:

    The half I get is infinitely, fractally interspersed withthe other
    half in a non-seperable fashion.


By Pepper on Friday, July 18, 2014 - 08:21 pm:

    Someone flipped out at work swearing at our warehouse manager and was send home.

    I knew my warehouse manager is up to no good for some of us. Few had quitted their job previously, it is all pointed out to the lady who spend too much time gluing her eyes at the screen and not doing anything.


By droopy on Saturday, July 19, 2014 - 01:59 am:

    on the same day that heather made that post about
    "know-it-all-cis-white-dudes", a 71 year old woman
    had told me that a lot of the world's problems would
    be solved by killing all the men.


By heather on Saturday, July 19, 2014 - 03:51 am:

    Men are awesome.
    A world of only women sounds like a nightmare.


By Pepper on Saturday, July 19, 2014 - 12:00 pm:

    Menopause, if you say so.


By droopy on Sunday, July 20, 2014 - 03:27 am:

    a world of humans is the nightmare.

    let's be honest.


By Pepper on Sunday, July 20, 2014 - 02:50 pm:

    Are they coming for you? droopy?


By droopy on Monday, July 21, 2014 - 02:42 am:

    yes. they're coming for us all.


By droopy on Tuesday, July 22, 2014 - 02:10 am:

    the world
    the flesh
    and the devil


By The Watcher on Tuesday, July 22, 2014 - 03:29 am:

    They're coming to take me away. Ha! Ha!

    They're coming to take me away.

    Those nice young men in their bright white coats!


By sarah on Tuesday, July 22, 2014 - 11:27 am:


    my recommendation is to stop dating white dudes.
    on average, you'll likely cut out about 50% of the
    know-it-all, and 100% of the white. you'll likely
    gain about 75% more respect. the rest is probably
    all the same.


    our long-time babysitter - who is more like family
    - finished nursing school, got a good job, has a
    new apartment, and started dating. sunday night i
    sat down with her and she showed me what her
    endless list of prospects are on her plenty of
    fish app. it was horrifying, and i felt badly for
    her, because she's got it going on in almost every
    respect.


    but she's 26 and that's probably a very different
    thing.




    (love you.)





By Pepper on Wednesday, July 23, 2014 - 04:06 am:

    Sorry sarah, I see my point of view different from yours. That is the way I see myself fits. :-)


By droopy on Wednesday, July 23, 2014 - 06:48 pm:

    am at the little "women's boutique" where i work part-time.
    where everybody works part-time.

    when i came, a woman whose shift was ending was telling her
    replacement about a man who had come in earlier. he's a
    cross dresser, and used to come to the store all the time. he's
    short, around 50, of asian descent. he's a housekeeper, and
    everybody who employs him allows him to wear a maid's outfit
    while he does his job. these are generally older women, and
    they let him go through their old clothes (dresses, etc.) and
    take anything that catches his eye. so his look tends to be
    "retro", which is one of the looks we cater to.

    he always came in when a woman named shelly was working
    here, but she's gone. so his sudden appearance after two
    years absence (he was in houston) kind of freaked out the
    woman working here today, who didn't know about him. she
    was nice to him, and helped him and all that; but here is this
    woman in her mid-fifties who suddenly finds herself helping a
    man find a dress to try on.

    our boss thought it was hilarious.


By Pepper on Wednesday, July 23, 2014 - 08:16 pm:

    droopy, how many job did you have? I thought you works at the warehouse?
    But anyway, I thought your boss, Mickie,(did I spell her name right?) wanted to sell her business, because she was being fed up after someone who came in boutiqe store and put much of clothes and took off on a company car?


By droopy on Thursday, July 24, 2014 - 02:03 am:

    mickie, short for micheala, had considered selling. but didn't.

    do a search for "Stella's Fort Worth".


By The Watcher on Thursday, July 24, 2014 - 07:52 am:

    Sarah,

    As an old white dude. I find that comment about giving up white dudes somewhat offensive.

    Your advice should be to give up jerks. They come in all races, ages, etc. It is usually very easy to spot a jerk.


By sarah on Thursday, July 24, 2014 - 04:41 pm:


    i absolutely intended for that to be offensive.
    because this isn't facebook.


    i'm gonna party like it's 1999.


    and anyway, heather didn't say she was sick of
    dating jerks.




By Antigone on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 12:14 am:

    Sarah, have you given up your white dude?


By heather on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 01:59 am:

    I didn't say I was sick of dating anyone.

    love to Sarah.


By JusMiceElf on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 11:12 am:

    Droopy, pretty sure we drove past Stella's last time I was in
    Fort Worth. Maybe we'll pop in next visit


By droopy on Tuesday, July 29, 2014 - 01:49 am:

    didn't know you were in the habit of being in fort
    worth. probably one of those "grin and bear it"
    obligations. still, any time.


By Pepper on Tuesday, July 29, 2014 - 06:33 pm:

    Never been there,except for Dallas and other cities.


By droopy on Tuesday, July 29, 2014 - 09:20 pm:

    you're not missing much.


By Pepper on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 - 12:51 pm:

    droopy, I will try to visit Ft. Worth the next time when I comes down there.


By droopy on Wednesday, July 30, 2014 - 06:43 pm:

    if you wish.

    in today's (local) paper, there was an article that mentions two
    studies done by two big-time universities: one that called fort
    worth the least funny city in america, and another that
    found us one of the least happy.

    you, me and JusHisElf can all be miserable and humorless
    together.

    rave on, children. i'm wit'cha
    rave on, cats--he cried
    it's almost dawn and the cops are gone
    let's all get dixie fried


By Pepper on Thursday, July 31, 2014 - 06:35 pm:

    Droopy,you have proven your point about being miserable.


By JusMiceElf on Friday, August 1, 2014 - 12:22 pm:

    The fiancee's parents live there, so I'm obligated roughly once
    or twice a year for the foreseeable future. Last visit we hit the
    Kimbell art museum and Fuzzy's Tacos.


By sarah on Friday, August 1, 2014 - 12:30 pm:


By Antigone on Friday, August 1, 2014 - 05:25 pm:

    Elf, if you want some Antigone action along with your droopy
    sauce let me know when you'll be in town. We can have a
    little sorabjifest.


By Pepper on Friday, August 1, 2014 - 06:37 pm:

    Whoa


By droopy on Saturday, August 2, 2014 - 02:33 am:

    just what are you suggesting, antigone? i don't
    think i have quite the "sauce" i once had.

    honestly, i like it here in fort worth...in my own
    strange, reclusive way. but, on the internet, to
    be a texan is to be saddled with all the usual
    assumptions of being an intolerant, gun-happy,
    racist bastard.

    elf, so you're marrying a fort worth girl? don't
    know if you're planning to have kids; but if you
    do, do what my father did. let me start by saying
    that i spent my first 12 years on this earth in
    rhode island. my father is an r.i. native, my
    mother's a fort worth girl. once my sister and i
    were around and old enough to travel, he
    discovered that he need never go back to texas
    again. as long as the gran'kids got there, he
    could stay home. my sister and i spent the 70's
    making a trip every summer to fort worth,
    sometimes driving the entire 1600 miles in my
    grandfather's van, sometimes being put on a plane
    with no adult supervision. those were the days.


By Pepper on Saturday, August 2, 2014 - 11:10 am:

    droopy, you sure a weird one, usually every two years, our family from Illinois travel to Texas for summer vacation. But when I was 13, I came down alone without my family, I spend two and half month spending my times with my grandparent.

    Being with grandparents beats boredom. Because my mom didn't have the job until she was divorced from her husband. I lived in a bored way, because we didn't have enough money. They never bother sending us to summer camp or have extracircular activity to keeps us from being bored during the summer. I felt my life was useless. when I was down there. My grandmother had two activities for me: a short summer school and weekday swimming in the afternoon. she kept me active.

    Sunday was my favorite times together with them, it is either food store or going out to eat. Other than that, sometimes they go out to flea market. I love those places with antiques and junks. I was told that Texas has the best place where people come all over from other states to visit.

    Why is that my brother's dog, Custer comes in my room every morning checking on me?


By droopy on Monday, August 4, 2014 - 11:35 pm:

    i am weird, pepper. perhaps i am getting too
    weird.

    probably the best times of my childhood were the
    trips to texas, especially the road trips. it was
    interesting to experience the change of america -
    accents, landscape, etc. - at such a young age.
    and my grandfather was the kind of guy who had to
    stop at all of the historical markers or whatever
    seemed interesting or educational. i remember
    visiting the amish region in pennsylvania,
    washington d.c., a tour of a cigarette factory in
    virginia, things like that. and a steady diet of
    vienna sausages, which he always kept in the van.

    my grandfather was heavily into flea markets, too.
    maybe it's a texas thing. they're sort of an
    institution, but maybe not like it used to be.
    though next to the little shop i work in is a junk
    shop run by a woman known as junkerval. it's only
    open on weekends, but it's kind of a hip spot:
    lots of high school kids, hipsters, and the odd
    bit of the lgbt community.

    maybe custer just likes you.


By JusMiceElf on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 - 12:14 pm:

    Droop, I've got two kids from my first marriage. They love their
    Texas almost-step-family. No plans for more kids right now, but
    we will keep bringing the girls down to Fort Worth regularly. I'm
    looking forward to when the novelty wears off a little and they
    can spend the bulk of their time running around outdoors.


By droopy on Wednesday, August 6, 2014 - 01:09 am:

    i thought you were more mature than a newlywed dad.
    better a boredom of texas than fear and loathing, i
    always say.


By droopy on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 03:36 am:

    just read an article that listed the 20 most white
    and black male/female names. one of the most white
    female names listed is heather. my real name is
    michael, and my name is on neither the most white
    nor most black list.


By Pepper on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 04:28 am:

    Well at least, I did configure the bluetooth to connect my gps to my laptop. This should help me going through process to avoid boredom.


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