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that was much quicker than I ever expected |
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It's going to be a long haul. The war just ended last week. Burger King seems to have some kind of deal with the US military. They are on everybase, both in the US and on foriegn soil. |
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I'd guess Pepsi with the red white and blue... |
Burger King, Robin Hood Subs, nasty pizza (not pizza hut, but cannot remember the name) Frank's Franks are some of the primary vendors. I do not blame them for wanting showers and toilets first. they are going to need it after eating at the AAFES food court. |
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Others are franchise. But I have never seen a Pizza Hut on a base, that does not mean that there is not any, I just have not seen any. |
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but they don't anymore. this money minute brought to you by Henry Weinhardts and the letter FU. |
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HA! actually Henry makes a convincing product. really though...coke is all american. pepsi be some wannabe motherfuckers. i've lived in Pepsi country (NC) and Coke country (Atlanta) ... yopu don't mix liquor with Pepsi...enough said. |
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Maybe it is in my head.... |
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the war is over? |
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expect an afghanistan like situation to develop in iraq. soldiers will be terrorized with guerilla tactics, they will mow down innocents. maybe bomb a wedding or a funeral and the leaders we put in place will be too fucking scared to leave the capitol! YAYYYYYYY LIBERATION! |
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exactly. in fact, the war's just barely begun. |
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Jesus it took 3 weeks. Currently we are hunting down specific, pre-identified subjects. Less then 3 weeks of open bombing and open combat. |
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There was no Western Front, Normandy, or Battle of the Bulge or anything of the sort. |
Most of the fighters our boys faced were from various terrorist groups. Remember? Most of the "regular Iraqi" army went home. |
Hmmm. "terrorist groups" since im feeling particularly contentious today, why dont you explain to me the difference between the "terrorist groups" in Iraq that often used guerilla tactics against "our boys" AND GIRLS and the CIA/Special Forces in Afghanistan who grew beards, wore local garb and blended in with the local populus to fight their battles there. |
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a US bomb in a civilian market square Baghdad is their 9/11. |
A bomb? Think about that for a minute. Go ahead consider the fact that it appears that you just equated some kid in the US military who realeased that bomb from a plane to the 19 guys who hijacked 4 airplanes and crashed them into buildings killing over 3,000 with no warning. Remember we have been warning for 18 MONTHS. The last 5 weeks have not been a suprise to anyone. THE WORLD KNEW WE WERE COMING. Please. Compare and contrast, then try again. |
Regardless of where, who or why, but if a foreign entity blew up your house and family don't you think your reactions would be strikingly similar whether you were an Iraqi citizen or an American? Im not speaking scope or magnitude, 3000 dead vs the 18 or so reportedly killed in a Baghdad market place. In fact im trimming it down to its core. Hijacked plane, or cruise missle launched from hundreds of miles away. It doesnt matter. Thats not my point. A foreign entity blew up your family period. Sometimes I tell myself there are no accidents in war. a bomb that fell on a civilian target rather than its military target is just that. Its not an accident, just a fact of war. So lets factor any "oopse, it was an accident" defenses. So yes....im saying the errant bomb that blew up a Baghdad market place and the countless other instances where the US bombed civilians could very well be their very own 9/11, who are you to say there is any difference. |
It all depends on your point of view I guess... |
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Unless you are arguing that people should be less angry when it's a US bomb that destroys your family. |
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i took Darryenne to Wendy's last night. it was the first time i've dined in a fast food restaurant in maybe over 10 years, not counting the milkshake i got a couple months ago at the jack in the box drive thru. the chicken blt salad was really good. nothing was fried, and the veggies were fresh. i was shocked. |
Because to my point of view (from a memeber of the US Military) we gave warnings after warnings after warnings, urging the citizens to stay in their homes durring the bombings. Where was the warning about 2 planes hitting WTC? Did we stuff civilians in the bombs that hit the market place? However, from the Iraqi Citizen's point of view, the end result is the same. They have lost family members. |
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Especially since it's pretty uncertain any objective was met with that particular incident (second attempted bombing of Hussein). Actually, we should just give up trying to bomb specific individuals, since it only seems to take out innocents (a la Reagan's bombing of Libya). |
In the first Gulf War...i forget the name of the shelter, its a rather infamous incident...but we killed dozens, if not over a hundred innocent civilians, including women and children in a bunker. They were in bunker, a safe shelter hiding from US bombs, a shelter designed to hold civilians. It wasnt a military bunker. Kaboom. dead. Like i said, you can't use the "ooopse we fucked up" defense. It doesnt work. Its a facet of war. Its inevitable. That bomb wouldnt have fallen if we hadnt invaded them to begin with. Thats the bottom line. Who gives a shit what our little phamplets say...how much regard would you give phamplets dropped on your hood by the Chinese written in bad english? You wouldn't... so your justification is a bit weak. |
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you are saying "did we pack that market with civilians?" "didn't we warn them?" these are justifications of your position you dildo. |
Stop trying to put words in my mouth. |
trace. listen up. this is a fine example of your problems with language that jack pointed a while back. jack wasnt being a smart ass, he was making some very valid points. lets look at YOUR words. "Because to my point of view (from a memeber of the US Military) we gave warnings after warnings after warnings, urging the citizens to stay in their homes durring the bombings. " when you say "Because of my point of view..." you expect a defense of one's argument to follow. you did. you presented your bias, then justified your statements. defense for argument = justification. |
Not a justification. |
that, whether you realize it or not, is your automatic justification system at work. did you understand what sem said: "is that when someone you love is killed in a senseless act by an organized group or state, there is probably not a differing quantity of rage in context to the supposed causes or intents behind the act." you play out the specifics because in its raw form, you are uncomfortable with the idea presented, that is what sem said. Only the specifics which you cite, which justify the raw action, allow you to accept it...at least Im led to believe. |
That is not equating terrorist attacks to an errant bomb? If I misunderstood that part of your statement, then ok. |
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What about this statement says to its a comparison? "Hijacked plane, or cruise missle launched from hundreds of miles away. It doesnt matter. Thats not my point." In fact, it PURPOSELY avoids making ANY comparison. The "it doesnt matter" and parts should clue you in to that. |
i appoligize. I was not attempting to jusify anything. |
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