File this under Rare Weirdness, then tell me if it's art or not.


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By R.C. on Wednesday, December 24, 1997 - 01:46 am:
    - Read this in our local free paper (the ones they throw in your driveway in the middle of the night) & absolutely HAD to post it here:


    "In a feature article in June, Bangkok's largest English-language newspaper, The Nation, lamented how far Thailand is behind the West in performance art, owing to Thais' cultural inhibitions. Nonetheless, given brief mentions in the article were a woman named Mink who coats the floor with toothpaste & wallows in it, to signify "that we all have to wriggle out of difficult situations in order to survive" & the father of Thai performance art, Inson Wongsam, who in the 1960's sculpted an elephant out of a block of ice by precision urination."

    - excerpted from Chuck Sheperd's "News of the Weird", from Vol.8 No.8, the 12/24/97 edition of The Weekly

By The on Wednesday, December 24, 1997 - 02:15 am:
    I don't care if it's art or not....."precision urination"?! that's impressive whatever it is!

By Amanda on Saturday, January 3, 1998 - 10:35 am:
    ofcourse that's art! geez..
    why do you even have to ask?

By Mekong on Monday, January 19, 1998 - 10:43 pm:
    Live here and see such weirdness everyday - the entire city is one continuous performance



By Sorabji on Monday, January 19, 1998 - 11:36 pm:
    i'm still thinking of a trip to bangkok. someone there offered me a place to stay for as long as i wished. the big expense would be getting there. and then what?

    wanted to cross over the Mekong and see if i could find the house at Salekaton B-13 in Vientiane.

    i used to live there.

    i was young. foolish.

    now i'm old and dangerous and living in new york.

    Which of the places is more exotic?

    had this funny exchange with a friend last week. he said "it's a 2-hour flight from here to the Bahamas. it would take me 2 hours to get to Brooklyn from here."

    And I asked "So ask yourself, which of those places is more exotic?"

    And we laughed and laughed and laughed.

    And laughed.

By Ltv on Thursday, January 29, 1998 - 03:07 pm:
    Does anyone know where I could get a photo of this sculpture? I agree with 'The' "precision urination" is impressive!


By R.C. on Thursday, January 29, 1998 - 11:10 pm:
    Try a web search for Bangkok, newspapers, The Nation & work form there. I had no luck myself/but I'm not very webbified. Can't do boolean searches of any of that stuff. If you e-mail me I'll give to Chuck Sheperd's address from the paper & you can contact him to see if he knows where a photo is.

By GaJay9 on Monday, April 27, 1998 - 12:50 pm:
    I used to have competitions with my cousin in the back yard to see who could pee the farthest. (I am from the South. We all do stuff like this) Is that art? I never sculpted an ice sculpture, though. Maybe that's where the Art comes in...

By Nate on Monday, April 27, 1998 - 05:48 pm:
    My brother and I used to pee over the back fence. I don't think it was art, I think it was mostly because we didn't like the girl who lived next door.

    I don't think I can pee over a fence today, though. I don't know what I had when I was a kid. I guess I traded firehose power for firehose stature. (<-- male ego dictated this statement. don't blame me, I stubbed my toe.)

By PetRock on Monday, April 27, 1998 - 09:16 pm:
    I peed on the neighbors roof once when I was about 10 or so....I did it from our attic window. (The roof was only 3 feet or so from our window -- sorry to spoil any illusions of youthful firehose power...)

    It ran into the gutter and down the spout...why did I do this? I have no idea. I was egged on by my best friend (who was a girl).

    Why am I telling you people this? I still have no idea.

    But it is addictive.


By Chad on Wednesday, February 17, 1999 - 08:46 pm:

    Marcel Duchamp said that everything we do is art, because 'art' comes from a Latin root word meaning 'doing'

    He was right. It's all art - which doesn't mean it can't be really shitty art, but...


By Swine on Monday, September 27, 1999 - 03:52 pm:


By Waffles on Monday, September 27, 1999 - 05:12 pm:

    is that the exhibit there os so much huff about?

    Wasn't he satisfied with the closure of all the adult entertainment?


By Swine on Monday, September 27, 1999 - 07:56 pm:

    yeah.

    he won't be satisfied until he's dressed up in jackboots, wearing a little moustache, and goose-stepping down broadway while Wagner blasts in the background and the residents of manhattan line-up and salute as he prances by.

    anyway, asshole has already pretty much totally compromised his game. although he's correct in saying that the "public" is not obligated to subsidize art, once the funding is in effect it cannot be discontinued just because of a mayor's personal discrimination. that's against the law. he sure as hell can't yank the Brooklyn Museum's lease.

    bottom line is that giuliani is a dick.
    it disgusts me that he would try to pull this off in new york city, of all places.

    some one should be kicking his ass on a daily basis.


By Waffles on Monday, September 27, 1999 - 08:00 pm:

    i heard bout some referendum they he is trying to pass theat would make it illegal for groups to gather in the park without a permit. i.e. the north american meditation group would have to apply for permit to go and meditate in the park. heard anything about that?

    yeah his broom is getting a little big. I have heard he has done alot of good at makin the streets a little safer, at what price, i am unsure of. but these types of things are just out of his league. He being the mayor, of all places, has the potential to hurt that city in bad way.


By Swine on Monday, September 27, 1999 - 08:17 pm:

    fuck giuliani.

    he gets elected in times of economic prosperity and then tries to front like he had jack shit to do with the reduction of crime in NYC. hell, the murder rates are slowly climbing again. let's see him take credit for that. prick.

    the books state that you need a permit for any group over 20 to gather in central park. park officials rarely enforce it, though. generally i think you don't have anything to worry about until your group approaches 100.
    but of course that could all change.
    (it's also against the law to screw in the park. go figure.)

    did i mention that giuliani is a dick?


By Semillama on Friday, October 1, 1999 - 05:52 pm:

    Correct me if I am wrong, but the last time I checked the First Amendment, there wasn't a limit to the number of people who had the right to assemble at any one place and time.


By Swine on Monday, October 4, 1999 - 11:29 am:


By J on Monday, October 4, 1999 - 11:55 am:

    I have read about this,I think it,s wrong to cut off funds to the museum because Giuliani doesn,t like the Virgin Mother display,but who is that geek with the big member?


By J on Monday, October 4, 1999 - 11:58 am:

    Oh it,s Giuliani,is he constipated or what?


By Swine on Monday, October 4, 1999 - 12:00 pm:

    click on the "dung" link.

    it's hilarious.


By J on Monday, October 4, 1999 - 12:33 pm:

    He really is constipated,how did that fucker get elected?


By Edward Scissor Penis on Monday, October 4, 1999 - 01:17 pm:

    He was elected because, as you can see, he has a HUGE COCK!


By J on Monday, October 4, 1999 - 01:21 pm:

    Well he wasn,t waving it around in public was he,and I,ve seen better heads on beer.


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