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By spunky on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 04:18 pm:

    Source

    Sem, is it you or tiggy that reads The Register?
    Anyway, I was wondering if you had seen this or not.

    I have wondered the same thing myself.

    I recently aquired a "120 gb" hard drive, only to find it was actually 114 gigs.
    I know Unix reads the bytes differently then MS, and the compression is different, so I have always assumed that was the difference, in operating systems, and not a deception by the manufacturer, but I admit I could be wrong....


By semillama on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 05:21 pm:

    That's funny. I was just reading on the historical archaeology mailing list about the same sort of thing, except it was about the makers of bottles, mugs, and other food service vessels in the 19th century, how the capacity shrunk but they were still advertised and sold at the original capacity.


By Nate on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 05:49 pm:

    I think the issue with HDs is that they've been using 1GB = 1000MB where 1GB is actually 1024MB.

    The difference between OS filesystems should be fairly negligible. It is the overhead of the formatting, etc.




By Antigone on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 05:58 pm:

    Lots of factors can change the "usable size" of a hard drive, but mostly its the filesystem you use. Some use lots of space for recordkeeping and whatnot.

    Mainly I think that the problem is over how much a "megabyte" is. Operating systems usually consider a megabyte to be 2 to the 10th power bytes, or 1024. Hard drive manufactures may be considering 1000 bytes to be a megabyte, which would let them report a larger amount of megabytes on the drive for the same amount of bytes.

    I'm sure there's some detailed discussion of this over at slashdot or k5.


By spunky on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 06:03 pm:

    That would still be 19.53125 gigs, Nate.
    I bought a 20 gig WD HD before, and it turned out to be 18.6 when I got it home and installed, before any formatting.

    You would have break it down to:
    1,000,000,000 bytes = 1GB
    versus reality:
    1,073,741,824 bytes = 1 gig

    That is the only way you could get their numbers.

    That would be misrepresentation.


By spunky on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 06:07 pm:

    That would still be 19.53125 gigs, Nate.

    You would have break it down to:
    1,000,000,000 bytes = 1 GB
    versus reality:
    1,073,741,824 bytes = 1 gig

    You will loose 70 megs per gig by correct calculations, which does lead to 20 gigs versus 18.6

    That is the only way you could get their numbers.


By Nate on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 07:01 pm:

    well, yeah.

    that is the nature of the legal complaint, using decimal instead of binary.

    i just over simplified it for the laymen.

    and the laydees.




By kazu on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 07:20 pm:

    layladies?

    Lay, lady, lay, lay across my big brass bed



    I don't want that song in my head.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 12:25 am:

    All I know is... I have a 40 gig WD, with 32.5 gigs of porn on it. I still have 7 gigs left.

    Where the .5 gigs went, I don't care. The porn is the important part.


By Testy man on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 09:23 am:

    test


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