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I was watching the last episode of Ken Burns's Jazz last night....watching footage of Cecil Taylor, Herbie Hancock, Miles and Sly and the Family Stone....i wondered about you. what up |
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i also debated the fact that they mentioned Louie Armstrong in every god damn episode. Not that i dislike Louie or deny his influence, impact, talent and maybe even brilliance. But he's not the cream of my tastes. I can listen, i can dig it, and really get into it...but when i want to be moved, taken to another level, i got a handful of others i resort too. A lot of the things they were saying I already knew by reading Miles and Bird's autobiographies and biographies...but the footage and photos really got me going. Some of the images were stellar. |
i watched that documentary the way a fan does: just hungry for the images and stories of people you know and love already. at the end, though, it did all feel a little like an extended vh1 profile. or a jazz promotional film: don't let this most american of art forms die. which i can live with. i never knew that "fables of faubus" had lyrics, though. right now i'm listening to my '59 recording of "mingus ah um" with that piece on it sans the words. i've gotta go dig that up. i love mingus. there is nothing cooler than a bass player. |
one of my fav Mingus cds is called "Monkey Jungle" Its Mingus on bass, Roach on drums and Ellington on keys....sweet man! |
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yeah, i dig his key works. it's just that bass has some kind of meaning for me. one time a drummer, after i'd let him mess around on my bass during a lull in a jam session, said something about how bass was such a perfect intermediary between drums and guitar. and he was right: you have the chance to be melodic and lyrical, but there's also that muscle you don't get in another instrument (unless it's percussion). that funk. "monkey jungle" was the first mingus album i ever had, which i have since lost. i'm going to have to go on a jazz buying spree here pretty soon. |
gonna buy the DVD set from directvideo.com for $125. been listening to a lot of electric-era miles again. live evil, live at the fillmore east, dark magus, black beauty, agharta, pangaea... sampling the hell out of it for kicks. you can take a few miles’ horn phrases, layer them over a ron carter bass lick, then set a tony allen/billy cobham drum foundation and just remix shit for years. yeah, it’s cheap and artless but it sure as hell gets me off. there's this 10-15 second section on live evil where john mclaughlin pulls off this crazy-assed funk riff that's had my head spinning for days. most of it doesn't synch up to davis/carter/hancock etc... but for about 5 seconds it's about the most amazing shit i've heard all month. i keep trying to isolate and pilfer, isolate and pilfer, but i guess it's just not meant to be. just as well. it's not mine to take, anyway. beat jacking. but i can't stop thinking about it. it’s bordering on the obsessive. yesterday i'm on a conference call with a client trying to straighten out their data issues, and the only thing going through my head is “fwa-fwa-fwip chickaWAH [pause] chickaWAH [pause] fwip-fwip fwip chickaWAH!”. i need closure. or a good kick in the head. i think i’ll go home tonight, lock myself in the apartment and try to work it out. Work it out. funny thing happened on the way to being single again: i’ve been looking all over this miserable city for a copy of herbie hancock’s “flood” and keep coming up empty handed. it’s always “that shit went out of print, son!” or “last time I’ve seen Flood I was still buying cigarettes for a dollar and change!” or “I just sold my last copy last week! where the hell were you?” uptown, downtown, east side, west side, brooklyn… what do I get? not a goddamn thing.. and so i guess i missed a dinner date or two in the process. and this is a Big Thing. so what’s the funny part? she says to me, “y’know. when i first met you i thought you were pretty smart. now i’m starting to realize you’re just smart enough to be an effective asshole.” smart enough to be an effective asshole. fucking hilarious, huh? it's moments like these that make louis armstrong so important. |
this just adds insult to injury. |
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the general criticism (which i was referring to)is that the documentary was solely wynton marsalis' vision. y'know, you're a pretty smart guy... |
Presenting Ken Burns' 144-hour Extremely Important documentary, "Jazz." Fade up on a grainy old photograph of a man in a three-piece suit, holding a cornet. Or a bicycle horn, it's hard to tell. Narrator: Skunkbucket LeFunke was born in 1876 and died in 1901. No one who heard him is alive today. The grandchildren of the people who heard him are not alive today. The great-grandchildren of the people who heard him are not alive today. He was never recorded. Wynton Marsalis: I'll tell you what Skunkbucket LeFunke sounded like. He had this big rippling sound, and he always phrased off the beat, and he slurred his notes. And when the Creole bands were still playing De-bah-de-bah-ta-da-tah, he was already playing Bo-dap-da-lete-do-do-do-bah! He was just like gumbo, ahead of his time. Announcer: LeFunke was a cornet player, gambler, card shark, pool hustler, pimp, male prostitute, Kelly Girl, computer programmer, brain surgeon and he invented the internet. Stanley Crouch: When people listened to Skunkbucket LeFunke, they heard Do-do- dee-bwap- da-dee-dee- de-da-da- doop-doop-dap. And they knew even then how deeply profound that was. Announcer: It didn't take LeFunke long to advance the art of jazz past its humble beginnings in New Orleans whoredom with the addition of a bold and sassy beat. Wynton: Let me tell you about the Big Four. Before the Big Four, jazz drumming sounded like BOOM-chick-BOOM-chick-BOOM-chick. But now they had the Big Four, which was so powerful some said it felt like a Six. A few visiting musicians even swore they were in an Eight. Stanley: It was smooth and responsive, and there was no knocking and pinging, even on 87 octane. Wynton: Even on gumbo. Announcer: When any musician in the world heard Louis Armstrong for the first time, they gnawed their arm off with envy, then said the angels probably wanted to sound like Louis. When you consider a bunch of angels talking in gruff voices and singing "Hello Dolly," you realize what a stupid aspiration that is. Gary Giddy: Louis changed jazz because he was the only cat going Do-da-dep-do-wah-be-be, while everyone else was doing Do-de-dap-dit-dit-dee. Stanley: And that was very profound. Marsalis: Like gumbo. Stanley: Uh-huh. Matt Glaser: I always have this fantasy that when Louis performed in Belgium, Heisenberg was in the audience and he was blown away and that's where he got the idea for his Uncertainty Principle. Marsalis: Because the Uncertainty Principle, applied to jazz, means you never know if a cat is going to go Dap-da-de-do-ba-ta-bah or Dap-da-de-do-bip-de-beep. Wynton: Louis was the first one to realize that. Stanley: And that can be very profound. Stanley: I thought it was a box of chocolates... Announcer: The Savoy Ballroom brought people of all races colors and political persuasions together to get sweaty as Europe moved closer and closer to the brink of World War II. Savoy Dancer: We didn't care what color you were at the Savoy. We only cared if you were wearing deodorant. Stanley: Wynton always wears deodorant. Glaser: I'll bet Arthur Murray was on the dance floor and he was thinking about Louis and that's where he got the idea to open a bunch of dance schools. Stanley: And that was very profound. Giddy: Let's talk about Louis some more. We've wasted three minutes of this 57-part documentary not talking about Louis. Wynton: He was an angel, a genius, much better than Cats. Stanley: He invented the word "Cats." Wynton: He invented swing, he invented jazz, he invented the telephone, the automobile and the polio vaccine. Stanley: And the internet. Wynton: Very profound. Announcer: Louis Armstrong turned commercial in the 1930s and didn't make any more breakthrough contributions to jazz. But it's not PC to point that out, so we'll be showing him in every segment of this series to come, even if he's just doing the same things as the last time you saw him. Glaser: I'll bet Chuck Yeager was in the audience when Louis was hitting those high Cs at the Earle Theater in Philadelphia, and that's what made him decide to break the sound barrier. Stanley: And from there go to Pluto. Wynton: I'm going to make some gumbo- Stanley: BOOM-chick-BOOM-chick-BOOM-chick!! Giddy: do-yap-do-wee- bah-scoot-scoot-dap-dap... That's what all the cats were saying back then. Announcer: In 1964, John Coltrane was at his peak, Eric Dolphy was in Europe, where he would eventually die, the Modern Jazz Quartet was making breakthrough recordings in the field of Third Stream Music, Miles Davis was breaking new barrier with his second great quintet, and Charlie Mingus was extending jazz composition to new levels of complexity. But we're going to talk about Louis singing "Hello Dolly" instead. Stanley: Louis went, Ba-ba-yaba-do-do- dee-da-bebin-doo-wap- deet-deet-do-da-da. Wynton: Sweets went,Scoop-doop-shalaba- yaba-mokey-hokey-bwap-bwap-tee-tee-dee. Giddy: I go, Da-da-shoobie-doobie- det-det-det-bap-bap-baaaaa... Announcer: The rest of the history of jazz will be shown in fast forward and will occupy exactly seven seconds. --There, that was it. Now here are some scenes from Ken Burns' next documentary, a 97-part epic about the Empire State Building, titled "The Empire State Building." "It is tall and majestic. It is America's building. It is the Empire State Building. Dozens of workers gave their lives in the construction of this building." Matt Glaser: I'll bet that they were thinking of Louis as they were falling to their deaths. I have this fantasy that his high notes inspired the immenseness of the Empire State Building. Wynton Marsalis: I'll bet most people who'd fall off the Empire State Building would go "Aaaaahhhh!" But these cats went "Dee-dee-daba-da-da- bop-bop-de-dop-shewap-splat!" |
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I know fuck-all about jazz. I do know that for some reason, I can not get my jazz musician brother to actually GIVE ME JAZZ as a birthday present. I constantly tell him, get me some good jazz, stuff you think is vital, and he gets me movies instead. Granted, he gets me GOOD movies, but man, I just don't know. |
Announcer: When Nate beats off he goes like, thip-thip-thadda-dadda-thip-thaddah-dah but when Louis whacked off he went, bah-bap-yadda-dadda-bap-dee-wap. Stanley: That's when jazz was really invented. Marsalis: And gumbo. Announcer: I'm hungry. |
That's so brilliant. |
And in other matters: "who is that guy?" Same guy who's been posting here for the last year or so. Who are you? I have an idea from the I'm-too-hip-to-live tone of your posting, but I'm too lazy to search back and peg you to your nom du jour, so I'll let it go at that. |
(get it? hehheheheheheh Instead of "You rock" - "you jazz"..... Ok......I'll go take a nap now) |
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you think this is a fucking joke? |
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sorry. |
you know anything about this? seems right up your alley |
hey gramps. i was still living in honolulu then. not knowing yet that i was going to leave for good five months later. where were you? |
weeks away from succumbing to the advances of that crazy little blonde woman in marketing who nearly seduced me into matrimony. if it weren't for terrorists, tech bubbles, and crashing economies-- i'd probably have an ex-wife right now and a shitload of debt. instead, i just have an ex- girlfriend and mediocre credit. thank god for silver linings. |
http:/ /www.youtube.com/v/ZD6bQ3DQSLA? doesn't seem like much has changed. |
still had yet to ruin a million different things. how do i slow this thing down? |
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i'm not quite sure why. cheap rent, probably. i'm planning on heading up to seattle for the west- indian festival in september. maybe i'll catch you guys on the way back. better yet, you and dave should hit me up next time you visit portland. how is dave, anyway? |
here's something crazy. i'm on this local austin yoga mamas alt-schooling mailing list that just formed. and it feels like internet deja vu. online yoga moms flaming* each other. so weird. i joined because it appears that TD1 is not going to be best served by public schooling, so i'm planning ahead by researching other options. i joined this particular group because i didn't want to join the austin home schooling group because what i've read so far they're all a bunch of whacked out, judgmental, ungrounded, full-of-themselves freaks. but maybe that's really all there is anyway. in any case, my original point being that it's like reliving the sorabji boards circa 1998. * remember "flaming" ?? hah! |
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how've you been? |
Obviously, he's fucking with us. |
he is totally fucking with you! TD1 didn't say a word til she was 18 months old, and only had a handful of words by the time she turned two - even though she understood everything. she didn't talk at all her whole first year at Montessori. but oh lord please help me the child never shuts up now. now go ahead swine, tell sem how old you were before you started talking. |
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sentences. Then one day I was really pissed off at my older sister, and my mom says this was the first long sentence she heard me say: "I'm going to cut you all up...into TWO PIECES!" Ada regularly crafts 10 word sentences these days. Methinks that's her mother's influence. :) |
three or four years out of my momma. my older brother and sister used to speak for me so much that i must have figured speaking for myself was unnecessary. that sure changed. but for a while my parents thought i was retarded. my siblings still do. i would e-mail you, but i don't have your e-mail address. here's mine. |