So, picking up on an idea that Swine floated a couple weeks back, anyone be interested in exchanging mix tapes around here? I thought one interesting theme to an intitial tape exchange would be a tape of music by bands that the exchanger is fairly sure the other person(s) haven't heard of. if any one is intereested, post here or email me.

memememe.

funny, i'm making one right now. mostly a NYC-based hip hop/jazz/funk/spoken word fusion kinda thing with lots of fwip-chicka-wah-wah. i love getting music in the p.o. box. beats the hell out of overdue bills and governmental hate mail.

i'll do it, but i'm not promising the "never heard of" thing. 'cause, like, i'm trapped in the burbs and the most underground or small club thing i've heard in the past year and a half is limp bizkit, or however you spell it. you get my drift. i CAN promise to unearth the stuff i'm sure you haven't turned onto, even though it's prolly already in your cultural musicalexicon. A disclaimer, thoug, one Swine is aware of: I am the anti-funk, a white hole of funk if you will.

May I be a part of this? I love making mix tapes! I also can't promise the "never heard before" thing. However, I do make mixes to order, so if you're looking for a mix for a certain occasion or mood or long road trip or whatever...talk to me. As for funk: have any of y'all heard of Trouble Funk? I can give you some of that, too.

Ok it all sounds good so far. I figure folks who want tapes from someone could get in touch with that person via email, in order to exchange addresses. I'm on the same page as swine, i need to balance the bills and supermarket flyers with good mail. I like the certain mood idea. How about a tape of tunes you happen to listen to while scrolling through message boards? or stuff you feel is appropriate for rainy days ( i personally get stuck in the office on rainy days, which means paperwork, writing and file organizing, and could use fresh vibes to dull the pain). I also can make tapes to order. I have lots of "modern rock", reggae, punk, some hip hop, some funk (not very much though), metal, world music, and a good deal of assorted bands that don't seem to fit any catergory at all. I'll be contacting y'all in the next couple days, as I need to hit the sack.

i will gladly trade you a tape of assorted funk for some of that bill laswell stuff you've got. i keep meaning to pick some up, but whenever i do any music shopping it always slips my mind. i've got some stuff he did with the Last Poets and the U.S. Funk Mob, but i need to check out some of his Marley and Miles remixes. my collection is mostly classic jazz, afro-jazz, funk, soul, reggae, blues, dub, hip hop, and fusion. i've got some rock, but not much... and i've heard of Trouble Funk but have never listened to them. you funk me and i'll funk you back.

I want to play too. I know some bands you guys probably never heard of ('cept possibly Wisper, who's Canadian, as are the bands) but I'm not into the whole funk thing. Spirit of the West and Captain Tractor are mainly a sort of celtic/rock thing (although you buncha lush's would probably love all the drinking songs. if I were an alcoholic I'd listen to them non-stop while guzzling.) and I have no idea what Moxy Fruvous is classified as, but they do a Rockin' version of the Spiderman theme song! Spirit of the West this friday. WOOHOO!!! The object of my affection has never heard of them (what a shock) and yet he still makes an effort to clear his schedual and go along with me. What a peach.

This does sound like fun! I'll listen to anything. I'm not good at making tapes, so I'll have to get Simon on board for this one. I doubt we have anything that you folks haven't heard of. But that doesn't mean we can't contribute something.

I,ve got a great stereo system but I can,t even set the radio stations it,s only set on one,I could make tapes if I ever figure it out.Shit,I get so frustrated,I let my son use my cell phone and now my voicemail is gone,and I DON,T KNOW WHY!!I got the book out and I still don,t get it.Maybe I am stupid.

Hey Swine, do you have any Fred Wesley? I am having trouble finding his shit around town. I just have a couple of mix tapes someone else made. I have made my interest in the tape trade to the appropriate parties.

i'll be sending out cd's. it's easier for me. sorry.

that works better for me

i've got fred wesley playing on various cd's. james brown, parliament/funkadelic, maceo parker, greyboy all stars... don't have any solo stuff, but you should be able to find some on cdnow. check it out: pladow pladow pladow

yeah thats all I have ben able to find. a friedn has taped a couple of songs from a Fred Wesley & the JB's and it's outta sight.

me me me. i wanna play too. i've heard of moxy fruvous...yummy yummy yummy. i love me some canadian bands.

girls aren't allowed,

Gee and I were allowed....Are you trying to cast aspersions on our femininity? *tsk*

you have been lead to "THINK" you were allowed...tell ya what...........help J with her stereo and you are in..........

Deal. I can program a VCR, retile a bathroom, uproot a tree, and fix a lawnmower, too. Can I be in the boys' club now?

yeah, can you stop by this afternoon? I have a half finished bathroom job, two trees that got go and a lawnmower with a busted fuel pump.

Sorry, can't today -- I've got some banana bread in the oven. How about tomorrow? I think I can get to you before I start retiling my roof. Shoot. Now who's casting aspersions? Sorry about that, ladies.

i've got a bitchin recipe for blackberry shortcake that is to die for....maybe i'll wip some up for you after you finish with the lawmower, after my soaps are off though

i saw this movie on channel 36 where this chick retiles a roof by chucking the tiles towards the roof. they all slide right into place. this is after she jumps on the roof to chuck the tiles at a bunch of halbred wielding fly through the air motherfuckers. i think she was some sort of kung fu nun or something.

HA!!!!!! thats tops! every watch the iron chef speaking of wacky cable programming

oooooh the YAN CAN COOK SO CAN YEW. me and mom used to curl up on the couch and watch that and home shopping club reruns when i was just a wee girl. you're bringing up horrid memories. i burnt my macaroni and cheese yesterday. i can pee my name in snow. doesn't that make me male?

uhhhhhh............can you kung-fu-shingle my roof or cartwheel-sweep my sidewalk? If so, your all MAN in my book.

Since I really don't know any better, if you guys (and girls) really want to swap tapes (or CD's, if you wanna put on airs!), why don't you let us all know what you've got to offer? The only music of mine worth mentioning around here, I've alReady mentioned so if anyone wants any of those, my e-mail's up there somewhere. what can you all offer? Oh yea, also various odds and ends from my dueSouth soundtracks. Which range from incredibly soft, to the somewhat hard. no funk though. I'm not down with the funk.

gee---i'll swap a mix tape with ya. im not down with the funk either. have you heard bob mould, beautiful south, spiritualized, or belle and sebastian? i bet you'd dig em. sides, you know moxy fruvous. you have to be cool. email me. i dont suppose there's any tom waits addicts in here?

hey hey hey I wanna play too ; ) Damn that work for interfering in my sorabji time grrrr. anyway, I'll send you some stuff you've definetly never heard off!

Tom Waits? I'm yours, baby! What can I offer? Well, here's a small sample. This is what I've been listening to in the past couple days: Bjork, Moby, Nation of Ulysses, The Make-up, Helium, Elysian Fields, Swans, Tool, Morphine, Tom Waits, Sunny Day Real Estate, Jeremy Enigk, Foetus, Goldie, Slint, Calexico, Cop Shoot Cop, Girls Against Boys, the Jesus Lizard, Here, Old 97s, Modest Mouse, and the Ninja Cuts 3 comp: Funkungfusion.

oh baby. lets do it. ill start one today. its my day off and anything i can do to avoid packing makes me giggly.

mmmmmmmmmmmNation of Ulysses..................spiritualized is overrated, try Spacemen 3 for the OG narcotic rock or Loop

stop being cooler than me. ;)

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everyone is a tom waits addict. i was only going to send out unpublished works.

Nat have you heard of a band in your area called the Torpedos?

you wait. ill be in a city soon and actually be able to get back into the small sweet band thing. living in the mountains, we have one band that plays around here. they have bo and they don't shave. oh and then there's the punk bands. don't get me started.

i wanna do this too, but i'm also gonna send out cds. and i'm gonna sing along.

I can work my c.d. player,hook me up okay,send nude pictures of anybody too,I said I was going to get tanked and I,m on my second Bloody Mary,I,m playing King of America to drown out Ryan playing Rage against the machine and thinking about the $110.00 wasted for tickets to see U2 and I never got to cause a certain asshole told me maybe Tom would take......I really am in a morbid state.

bottoms up J.......

i just got my first cd from this exchange today.

You forgot the "nyah nyah nyah"

it was implied.

Holy cow, that was fast. What did it, sprout wings and Fly to you or something?? Man, that was fast.

ah guys who the fuck is tom waits? so there nakednateboy ; P

oh yeah... i can give you.... darcy clay, the feelers, shihad, supergroove, che fu, dave dobbyn, the exponents, bic runga, splitz enz, tim finn, crowded house, herbs, stellar*

i want split enz. howabout Alt?

does anyone have any Simply Red???

yuck, man.

I got the Cranberries,Elvis Costello,Toad the Wet Sprocket,Fastball,Radiohead,New Radicals,Harvey Danger,The Clash,The Ramones,O.M.C.,The Wallflowers,Kongo Shock,Buck o nine,Gin Blossoms,Creed,Collective Soul,Creed,Chris Isaak,oh a whole lot.

my balls hurt.

Ummm....ummm...I have some Simply Red. I'm very ashamed that I have it, but, well, there it is. Simply Red's "Stars" to be exact. Don't hate me. I'm also assuming the "who the hell is Tom Waits?" question is a sick practical joke, and I'm ignoring it.

And Social Distortion,and Tower of Power,I also have some bag-pipe music,and a album by some guy named Chinga Chavin,it,s called Country Porn,and it even offends me his guitar is shaped like a toilet seat,Stones,The Kinks,Pink Floyd and Roger Waters who I like best just for the pro,s and con,s of hitch hiking,are your balls turning blue Swine?

i love it when you talk dirty J

But you didn,t send pictures!!!

nah. the sack is still deep dark chestnut brown. i have social distortion's "mommy's little monster" on vinyl somewhere between pennsylvania and seattle. i used to have a birthmark on the underside of my johnson, but now it's gone. maybe i should go see a doctor.

thats the best album they ever did....did you ewver see the video "Another State of Mind"....made for USA Night Flight back in the early 80's. It followed them on tour with the Youth Brigade..........it had footage of Minor Threat when they came through DC.....I watched that thing daily for many years wishing I was as cool as Mike Ness

yeah. we used to watch that a lot in high school. there was this brain damaged canadian punk in one of those scenes that we used to trip on constantly. "AHHH DAAA BAAA PUNK WOCK!!!!" the guy was like the punk rock elephant man or some shit. crazy. i want to get the swans' "children of god" again and sample that song where big dark and gloomy keeps bellowing "THE SEX IN YOUR SOUL WILL DAMN YOU TO HELL!" we always wanted to loop that and play it through the highschool PA system, but none of us could ever get anywhere near the control board without getting busted. i always regretted not being able to pull that off. hey man, i just found my birthmark!

congratulations and I know the guy you are referring to...it's been so long, i lost my copy so long ago "AHHH DAAA BAAA PUNK WOCK!!!!" HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sick practical jokes aside, I would like to say that I never heard Of Tom Waits until I came here, and I still haven't actually heard Him. You would think that the fact that you're all so crazy about him would make me want to hear him. Instead I just feel like dancing around saying evil things about him and watching you all explode. So, uh...he's good, eh?

I would also like to know what Swine's balls have to do with mix tapes. Unless they're magical singing balls. Can you do "Moon River"?

(sigh)

swine's balls=mixed tapes....get it?

personally, gee, if you danced around and said evil things about tom waits i'd just feel bad for you. tom waits being the shit is nothing anyone has to defend-- it's established. anything you say to the contrary just makes you look... sad.

spin this as far as my balls go, it's kind of a "six degrees of separation" thing. everything eventually relates back to the nutsack. and no, they don't do "moon river". but they will drop a kickin' rendition of "squirt my squirrel" if ya rub 'em right.

hey swine, i was readin time out last night, will you be cathcing the flaming lips, robyn hitchcock show this week? just curious, not sure if it's your bag or not.,....curious to shoot shit with someone else who saw it......

hey swine, i was readin time out last night, will you be cathcing the flaming lips, robyn hitchcock show this week? just curious, not sure if it's your bag or not.,....curious to shoot shit with someone else who saw it......

nate: you can send me a cd. swine: email me so's we can swap mailing addresses, cause you got a deal on the Material/Bill Laswell for tha funk. I'll definately pack a tape full of bong loads of dub. anyone want anything from me, click my name and let me know, right?

swine, i have that album. i'll tape it for you.

nah. i'm not really into the flaming lips/robyn hitchcock thing. listening to the flaming lips puts that "what the fuck???" look on my face and robyn hitchcock gives me bad acid flashbacks cuz he sounds too much like syd barrett. i just can't get into it. docta llama: i got you covered.

thaahnk yoo ackathah.

thats actually what i dig about hitchcock, i was never turned on to him until i saw him, he reminded me of a cross between barrett and jonathon richman.....oh well........ barrett is my fav beatle

i got a bunch of rare syd barrett tapes from the guitarist of government issue through a friend of mine in high school. lots of outtakes like "vegetable man" and weird cuts of "birdy hop" "gigolo aunt" "octopus ride" and a bunch of shit i can't remember. i wasn't into the music as much as i was just intrigued by the recordings. it was like listening to someone going progressively insane until you were just hearing a madman awkwardly strumming in a really bizarre time signature and muttering shit like "i need... you... but... you're running... away... from... me... help... me... to... love... me... help... me...." weird, sad, horrible shit. i should try to find those tapes next time i'm back at my parents' house.

DUDE I would cartwheel to NY for that shit, I only have his Opal album and of course Piper at the Gates of Dawn which is probably to me, one of the most profound rock and roll albums of the century... Opal gives a simlar impression (that you mention). Now that i think of it, some of those songs are on Opal. Maybe you have versions of those songs prior to the release of Opal... they do have an erie/insane tone to them.........wow, you knew the folks in Gov't Issue........(jealous)..................i should go dust all my dischord 7" and give em a spin.........

you can still get his two original solo albums, "barrett" and "the madcap laughs" on cdnow i didn't know the guys in government issue, i just met the guitarist a couple of times one summer. i think the stuff on the tapes is mostly outtakes and unreleased singles. anyway, if i can find that shit you're welcome to it.

Waffle - no. I don't get that at all. But thanks for trying. Nate - thanks pal. I love you and respect your opinion as well. hoser. Swine - My third thanks. I went and listened. I've heard enough. sorry to hear about your balls. Call me when they learn "Moon River". Gee - You're a big jerk. Stop being mean. Me - Shut up. Shut up you. I really needed that.

relax gee....go with the flow......when something seems to make no fucking sense.....MAKE sense out of it and make the rest of us think about it.....

Rhiannon I honestly have no idea who Tom Waits is *waiting for the slap* Nate you want the Enz you email me a mailing addy k. I assume Alt=alternative... the bands I named are all NZ bands and some of them are alternative. The lead singer of stellar* is Boh Runga the sister of Bic Runga however they have completely different styles. Anyhooo.... I still wanna play....

Tom Waits is a songwriter almost universally acknowledged to be a genius. He's magic or something -- it's like everybody who hears him loves him. He's got this fabulous throaty, growly, raspy voice that's unlike anyone else's. He writes songs in a wide variety of musical styles. And his lyrics! They're like poems with a bad complexion -- imagery like nothing else out there. If I can find a website that has a decent collection of his lyrics, I'll post the address. (Good, now I have something to keep me occupied!)

I actually like Tom Waits ok, but have never been that impressed with him as a genius, though I did like his screen appearance in "Down by Law."

found some sites -- i'll post them during lunch when i'll have a cooperative computer Sem. -- could you check your email to make sure you received my message? (The computer froze right after I hit send) **

For the complete index of lyrics: hello For 3 songs to pay attention to: 9th and Hennepin Potter's Field Heartattack and Vine, which has my favorite Tom Waits lyric of all time: "don't you know there ain't no devil, there's just God when he's drunk" He writes a lot of tales of decay...

ALT is another band. it's either tim or neil or both. i can't remember much. i heard about them, thought i should check them out, and then promptly forgot about them. maybe they dint go no weres.

ever hear Nick Drake....he is kinda like Tom Waits with a gun to his head and smack in his system

Really? I thought Nick Drake was that chronically depressed British folk musician who died of an anti-depressant overdose in the '60s. No smack in his system, that I knew of. A very gentle man, too. I like his song "Fruit Tree." I think that's what it's called anyway.

Gee, man. Hook these people up with some old Tea Party. HOOK THEM UP. Do it for me. God bless those boys. *sniff* (Moxy Fruvous?!! lol, I thought I was the only one to ever buy that album. 'King of Spain'..oh god...the memories are all coming back now...ouch. Although their rendition of 'green eggs and ham' was inspirational)

'King of Spain' one of the greatest Galaxy 500 song's ever, winder if it is related to this Moxy Fruvous character... Rhiannon, I wasn't being literal about the smack.............implying his sense of self-deprecation with his chronic depression ands suicide.....

I like that French song they do on their album uhhh Morphee. I read the lyrics one time and it's about this guy who uh, goes to the gorilla market and he's the king of his dreams, annd.. something about the city. So either way you're in luck, if you don't know French, doesn't matter, it's still weird anyways. And River Valley's a cool song.

I'm relaxed Waffle. Mostly. Moxy Fruvous is a band..."King of Spain" was the first I ever heard of them, and it hooked me. I like the quirky songs they write. If the KoS you're thinking of mentioned working at Pizza Pizza and vacuming Skydome, then they're the same. Probably not, though.

These are the Galaxy 500 lyrics.... You know I am the King of Spain And I know that you can never tear me apart again The empty hull I roam around And my friends don't understand I'll never lose again You know I am the King of Spain Yeah and I know that you can never bring me down again Oh yeah I am the King of Spain Yeah and I know that you can never tear me No, I'm the King of Spain, I'm smilin to myself I'm laughin out aloud, I'll never cry again No, I'm the King of Spain, I'm smilin to myself They play my favorite song, I'll never cry again You know I am the King of Spain And I know that you will never bring me down again Oh yeah I am the King of Spain Yeah and I know that you can never tear me No I'm the King of Spain, I'm smiling to myself I'm laughin out aloud, I'll never cry again Yeah I'm the King of Spain, I'm smilin to myself I'm laughin out aloud, cause I'm the King of Spain

i'm interested in getting some new funk, but i don't have any new funk to give in return. however, i have recently stumbled across a guitar player named Keller Williams. plays a 10-string, with the bass string tuned way down. he's a one-man band, playing bass, rhythm, lead, and percussion, all on his guitar. he does some cool covers... everything from Pink Floyd to "Nikki" by Prince to "Baby You Drive My Car", and has many great originals. great song writer. i also have some assorted wacked out world music stuff. send me some email if you got something you want to offer in return.

'hem'hem. Once I was the king of Spain (now I eat humble pie) Oh, my unspeakable wife - Queen Lisa! (now I eat humble pie) I'm telling you I was the king of Spain (now I eat humble pie) And now I work at the Pizza Pizza (one, two, three, four) Royalty, lord it looked good on me Buried in silk in the royal boudoir, or going nuclear free Or playing crokinole with the Princess of Monaco Telling my jokes to the opec leaders, getting it all on video Once I was the king of spain (now I eat humble pie) A palatial palace - that was my home (now I eat humble pie) I'm telling you I was the king of spain (now I eat humble pie) And now I vacum the turf at Skydome (once he was the king of spain) I can't wait, I'm lowering intrest rates, my people say: "King, how are you such a genius?" "There's a roof overhead and food on our plates!" It's laissez-faire, I don't even give a care Let's make friday part of the weekend And give every new baby chocolate eclair Once I was the king of spain (now I eat humble pie) Hey Clinton! Hey Yeltson! Got problems? You phone me! (now I eat humble pie) I'm telling you I was the king of spain (now I eat humble pie) Now the Leafs call me up to drive the Zamboni (once he was the king of spain) Now some of you might be wondering how I came to be living in Canada, after being royalty in Spain. Should I tell them, guys? (tell us King!) You see late, one night, when the palace was asleep Out of my royal chambers and into the garden I creep And I wait, till the apointed time, when themoon is lighting the pitch At which point my peasent friend who looks just like me, Arrives and we make a switch! (gasp) Prince and pauper, junior and whopper World made up of silver and copper Under my own volition, I took a change of position So next time you drool in the pizza line Remember, slower pizza's more luscious The king of Spain never rushes!! Once I was the king of spain (now I eat humble pie) I was looking for off-handed ways to improve us (now I eat humble pie) I'm telling you I was the king of spain (now I eat humble pie) And now I'm jamming with Moxy Fruvous (once he was the king of spain) (lead vocals - Dave. He's my favorite.)

She,s THAT good,I,m the King of America!!!Don,t let my tits fool you...I,m a KING!!!!

I always thought they said fellatial palace, then he'd be the King of Love.

Morphee Longue journée Qui s'achève dans une chambre foncée J'entends au loin les sirenes Qui comme une vague me tirent, m'amènent Chez Morphée Emerveillé Ce doux piège Ou les gammes en délire s'arpègent M'emportent si loin des villes Et je fuis, je fuis les escadrilles du privelège Beau sortilège On solde les vieux pays au marché des gorilles Caché dans les bras de Morphée je rène Nemo en exil Sur mes rêves fragiles

you go with your fragile dreams. léchez mon pâle âne

so i thought I might take the tape trade thing a little further...my friend/former guitarist dude who lives in SF is in town gigging this weekend. He is a sound engineer and makes video entertainment on the side at the production studio he has access to. He call's them Jake TV. Anyway, he brought me a new edition...it's a fuckin riot.....plus he took our last studio recordings and put them to video.....cool stuff........... so since my tape deck is on the fritz.....my two vcr's will suffice...........visual and audio entertainment....... plus he got me copies of a Can live performance and documentary about them.......yayaaaay!!

Shanna - the lyrics printed on the jacket say "palatial". Which I still need to look up.

like a palace. i spent 6 hours straight last night cooking up an 8 1/2 minute song from scratch. sat down and didn't get up save for bongloads and beer. end of missive.

Well, my buddy saw Robyn Hitchcock in Boston the other night. He wasn't all that impressed, but then he was there to see Sebadoh (his band, Playtopia has toured with them). Me, I've been impressed with Robyn both times I've seen him. I like his monologue bits, the surreal stories he does. I just got his new CD, and it sounds great! Any of you out there Oysterband fans? I got to see them earlier this month, when I was on vacation. I also got to see Richard Thompson at the Hundred Club, this basement club in London that's had both Mingus and The Sex Pistols in it's long history. Both shows were great. I won't bore you all with details, unless you beg....

ever been to club wag? saw Versus there when i was on that side of the pond

club wag? haven't heard of it. where is it?

i think it was in the notting hill/leicester square neighborhood....

still waiting for an address for swine...

shit. i thought i sent that to you a while ago. i'll resubmit.

*sob* everybodys too scared of my music.

Bring it on MoonUnit,nobdy has sent me shit either :).

Whoa- it figures. I don't post here for awhile and someone comes up with an interesting project. I love mix tapes. Anyone wanna trade? I'd adore an excuse to dust off the deck... I'm listening to Cornelius, Morphine, Beck, Soul Coughing, Mu-Ziq, Fishbone, Tricky, Massive Attack, Underworld, Tom Waits, Add N to X, Talking Heads, Belle and Sebastian, Ween, The Chemical Brothers, Orbital, Aphex Twin, and some seriously wacked out 60's exotica compilation my girlfriend got in the mail. I hate boring mix tapes. Any takers?

yea,me,talking heads,same as it ever was.

Hey, Moonunit, anyone offer to send you a Tom Waits tape yet? Iwould, but I'm sure other folks here have a better collection than me (Early years Vols.1 and 2, Rain Dogs, Mule Variations).

nobody Sem, nobody. bastards. hehe

I'll do it, if you want. Do you?

yeah yeah Rhi go on go on... I'll send u something or other!