What should I be listening to?


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By patrick on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 06:14 pm:

    pez should be listening to Melt Banana having seaweed daydreams in Japanese Zero red.


    nate should be listening to Can 'Unlimited Edition' to realize that the "jam bands" stemming from Phish and The Dead have nothing on their late 60s German counterparts.


    Spunky should be listening to Spiritualized live, in the front row with hopes that the sonic invasion could potentially bleed an ear drum and unlock some "spiritual" misconceptions.


    Both Heather and Sarah should be listening to Junior Wells on the porch sipping gin in the Texas July heat and act as if they weren't they sexy enough already.










    that is all *wafts wand*











By eri on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 06:34 pm:

    Spunky listening to Spirtualized live? Boy are you off on that one Patrick.

    I'll bet $5 that he is currently listening to so 70's rock band right now.

    What should you be listening to Patrick?


By patrick on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 06:43 pm:

    im not trying to be on.


    this is my kingdom come.


    i should be listening to Santana on the beach, spinning in circles and addressing banal bong load questions like "Is there a God?"


By Dougie on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 06:45 pm:

    I'm listening to Garbage 2.0. Shirley Manson is one hot chick.


By Nate on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 06:48 pm:

    jam bands are tiresome.


By semillama on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 07:08 pm:

    I am listening to something really really crappy
    filtering down from the new neighbors
    upstairs.


    My five-year goal: home ownership.


By eri on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 07:56 pm:

    I should be listening to some powerful classical and dancing around in my pointe shoes, but instead I am posting here, because I am too wiped out after my yoga this afternoon. My legs hurt.


By Nate on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 08:15 pm:

    make it your six month goal, sem.


By dave. on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 08:38 pm:

    i watched the garbage behind the scenes on vh1 last night. i concur. she's hot and that brogue is absolutely enchanting.


By Platypus on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 12:07 am:

    I'm listening to Underworld (Cowgirl, at this exact moment).


By moonit on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 02:23 am:

    I'm not listening to anything.

    What should I be listening to?


By Spider on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 09:01 am:

    Me, too....what about me?

    I'm listening to Elliott Smith's "Figure 8" right now. I love him.


By patrick on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 11:32 am:

    Im not asking what anyone is listening to.


    what SHOULD I be listening to.


    pay attention people.


    the "I" could be you, could be me. It doesnt matter.




    Spider should be listening to Snoop at an elevated level for an office and acting like its perfectly acceptable.


By Nate on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 11:43 am:

    patrick, you should be listening to a large pair of greasy balls slapping on your chin.


By patrick on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 11:48 am:

    is that an offer?


By semillama on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 11:52 am:

    If it weren't for the debt...

    but I digress.

    Saturday night I will be listening to some LIVE
    P-Funk.


By pez on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 11:53 am:

    garbage 2.0 is nice. it's a good balance between their s/t and beautiful.

    patrick, you should listen to santana. everyone should listen to santana. but here's what else is good:
    * groovie ghoulies
    * bis
    * the blast rocks
    * radon
    * gorillaz
    * organic

    this bike is a pipe bomb is coming to portland in a month and they're staying at a friend's house and playing their basement. i'm excited.


By Spider on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 11:55 am:

    Heh heh heh....... I like Jay-Z better.


    My cow orker is listening to "smooth jazz" at high volume. He really likes this stuff.

    I've determined that smooth jazz is the worst music EVER.


By Spider on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 12:13 pm:

    Speaking of basement shows...listen to what my jerk of a brother has been doing:

    He's in a band. They're reasonably successful for a bunch of college kids (just recorded their 3rd album, have toured up and down the East Coast and have good followings in distant states, etc.)

    My dad lets the band practice in his basement.

    This enough should get my dad beatified.

    My brother has always been an ungrateful bastard, and within the last two months, he has organized 4 shows to be played in our basement. 50-80 kids have shown up each time. The horrible thing is: HE HAS NEVER ASKED MY DAD'S PERMISSION.

    He just sends out flyers and then tells my dad "by the way..."

    Last show, my dad found out about it from me. WTF??

    Someone needs to smack him *and* my dad. He does nothing to punish my brother. He doesn't do anything! He doesn't talk to him...nothing. WTFFFFF???

    Now, nothing has ever been broken, and they leave the basement in good order, but

    1) That's got to be a fire hazard
    2) There's got to be a noise violation going on
    3) The music is obnoxious as hell, and my dad's almost 60 and still works very hard and deserves some peace when he gets home
    4) What an assholish thing for my brother to do!


    I've asked my dad why ("WHY?!?!") he doesn't do anything about this, and he just shrugs his shoulders. What is going on?? The world is just turning upside-down around me. Where is the order? Where is the reason?


By patrick on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 12:19 pm:

    ahhh basement shows.

    the last basement show i saw was the DC band called Universal Order of Armageddon and a San Diego band called Antioch Arrow. Two very very intense mega political progressive groups.

    HAH groovie ghoulies. gotta love them



By patrick on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 12:20 pm:

    and ive heard Gorrilaz, they suck, just like System of the Down and other so called "punk" like that.


By Spider on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 12:24 pm:

    I don't think Gorillaz claim to be punk. That's the guy from Blur fronting.


By patrick on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 12:28 pm:

    really? hmm maybe im confused. Blur? Im thinking of someone else.

    Blur is music for weenies.


By heather on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 12:35 pm:

    your dad is proud, maybe

    don't be such a prude, he can take care of himself



    i would be very pissy though, if i thought my sister was taking advantage of my parents


By eri on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 12:51 pm:

    This is exactly what my sister is doing and it drives me up the wall. Not that she is in a band, or working in any way. She doesn't have a job, sits at home all day trashing their house, and doesn't help take care of Christopher during the evening. I ask my parents why they don't just kick her ass out, but they just shrug and say "She's our daughter", and count down to when her hubby gets out of tech school and gets his first assignment hoping they can send her off with him. She runs up approx $300 a month in long distance charges on each of their phone lines each month. She does nothing but mouth off to them and talk about how horrible they are. She is now having some strange guy she met at the mall come over on a regular basis. They hide out in the basement together. Makes you wonder, especially since she has got an STD and it was after her hubby left for boot camp.

    She isn't working, isn't thanking them for the roof over her head, but rather disrespecting them at every possible opportunity. She beats the shit out of her son and only has to serve something like 8 days for it.

    Meanwhile, they are raising her son, come home from work to clean the disaster she has made of their house, pay her bills and do nothing else but bitch about it.

    They are enabling her and she is only getting worse. It is starting to effect their health and their relationship (which was rocky to begin with) and they still do nothing, but call me to bitch about it, ask my advice and never use it. Drives me nuts.


By Fb on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 12:54 pm:

    time to call ORKIN


By Spider on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 01:06 pm:

    Fb, that made me choke on my water.

    What does being a prude have to do with thinking my father is a pushover?

    My dad gave up on disciplining my brother years ago. Maybe I should print out eri's threads and hand them to him?

    "This is what you're teaching him! It will be your fault if he ends up like this!"


By patrick on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 01:15 pm:

    if you're dad is cool with it, where's the problem?

    thats the prudish part. you're applying your standards to his life.

    maybe he likes have rock shows in his basement....i think i'd might dig it if my son or daughter rocked out to 50 kids in the basement. at least i know where they are and what they are doing. if the kids are cool and don't trash the place, who cares?


By Antigone on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 01:23 pm:

    Maybe your dad is living vicariously.


By heather on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 01:26 pm:

    erin, you need to tell them that they are not helping your sister and that you don't want to hear about it anymore.

    then don't listen, make an excuse to go if they want to talk about it.

    if you stop tolerating it, it might help them find the strength to stop tolerating and let her go.


By sarah on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 01:30 pm:


    even i have grown tired of jambands. i want to write a big long essay about how all bands eventually feel like they have to do what the grateful dead did so that people can think that they are re-experiencing that whole deal. i wish some of the jam bands who used to be just regular bands would start playing songs again, songs with a beginning, middle, and end.


    antigone should be listening to Apples In Stereo.
    nate should be listening to Gomez.

    i should be listening to ocean waves.




By patrick on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 01:47 pm:

    i should be listening to more jazz pianists.



    at the moment the new Jon Spencer single is playing on the radio "She Said". I feel a little fortunate because when I saw JSBX a few weeks ago, i heard all these cuts before they were released.

    This song in particular, "She Said", when they go to the chorus, i remember it being particularly cool...as they kick their guitars pedals in overdrive the stage lights blasted bright bright beams into the audience as they all yelled "She Saiiiiiiid!!!". I got chills during that moment. They cranked up the volume and bass so much from the soundboard your innards vibrated.

    fuck that was cool.


By Spider on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 01:53 pm:

    I care, not because of the shows in the basement, but because my brother is allowed to be grossly inconsiderate without repercussions. Tell me that's a good thing.


By Antigone on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 02:32 pm:

    Spider should be listening to her father.


By Spider on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 02:39 pm:

    I do. He's a good father to me.


By eri on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 03:15 pm:

    I have told them how I feel about it and that I don't want to be a part of it. I have told them that this situation makes moving to Texas a blessing because we don't have to be near this bullshit with my sister. I can't completely cut them off, because my father is fighting to try to get her out of the house (it's a losing battle, he just doesn't have the balls to just kick her out, he wants mom's support and he isn't going to get it). The thing is, though I lose respect for him because he doesn't have the balls to stand up and take charge of his life in his house, I also feel sorry for him. I am all he has. His wife won't support him or understand him. His youngest daughter treats him worse than shit. He gets to the point where he thinks he is doing something wrong. He wants someone just to understand him or give him ideas of things to say or do to at least ease the burden of this situation. He wants someone who will be honest with him and no one will do that for him except me or spunky. There have been so many lies for so long and there continue to be so many lies that no one else in the family will talk to him. He is alone emotionally and physically. Actually, he does listen and use advice when he asks me for it. He likes my reactions to something that happened because it gives him other alternatives or things to say that he didn't think of. He never had a "family" growing up and he is afraid that if he pisses off Mom enough, then he will lose all of the family he found and made. He doesn't realize that this situation has torn the family apart and he is now facing two different families. We have already split up. They haven't and if they do, he is afraid of all he will lose. I know this. My mother can be a vindictive bitch in the fullest and puts him through the guilt ringer on a regular basis. I would hate to see what she did to him if he actually stood up against her.

    It is so complicated. I wish I could just tell them all to fuck off and not call me unless someone was dying or something, but it doesn't work that way. He needs someone. It is killing him that we moved to Texas. I was his sanity link and now I am too far away. Blessing to me but curse to him.

    Spider, I can totally understand where you are at, though. My sister has never been made to take responsibility for any of her actions all of her life. She still doesn't. She has this warped sense of reality. She doesn't appreciate a single thing she has or ever has had. She just bitches all of the time about how much better I had it than her. The only difference between what we had was that I got something and made it last for years and she would get something trash it get something trash it over and over again and then bitch about me having it and she doesn't. Yes, we have our own place to live in and she doesn't but that is because we pay rent and she doesn't. Yes, I always had a nice stereo, but that is because I got one for my 15th birthday and took care of it until it finally died on me in January, wheras she got one and decided she didn't want to take care of it and trashed it and got another and trashed it and got another (I think she is on stereo system number 15 in 12 years) and none of them were ever "good enough". She complains that I was pretty and popular in school and had lots of dates and she didn't, but that was because I took care of myself and my appearance and had good hygeine habits, when she trashed her teeth when her braces came off and her teeth have this disgusting yellow glow (wish Spunky still had the picture) she never took care of her acne and never cleaned herself, let alone shave her pits. She looked gross and wasn't nice to other people she met so no one ever liked her, but somehow that is my fault not hers.

    Enabling someone like this, who takes advantage and feel like it is their right to do so and it is owed to them, can be dangerous. It isn't just a matter of "they can take care of themselves" because by doing this they aren't taking care of themselves but taking care of those causing the trouble. When it is someone you love who is doing this, you can't help but speak up for their best interest.


By spunky on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 03:21 pm:

    Eri, your mom has the balls in that family, and i think your sister. either that or she is just stupid....


By eri on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 04:39 pm:

    Mom has the balls, and Annie is just plain fucking stupid.


By drpy on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 08:26 pm:

    i'm listening to texas blues radio, and the d.j. is talking to blues photographer, manager, promoter dick waterman, who is in dallas right now showing his collection of photos of blues legends.

    he lives in oxford, mississippi - a college town. he just said "i live with all that indie rock. i had to figure out who's better than ezra. i decided i didn't care." (but he's still in fat possum country.)

    there's supposed to be an article about him in vanity fair in june or july. i thought patrick might dig the photos. the one of son house and mississippi john hurt is a classic. so is the one of mance lipscomb.

    he says he has a picture of junior wells giving mick jagger a harmonica lesson, but it's not on this page. maybe in the v.f. article.

    listen to more blues.

    (is it just me, or does phil ochs look like k.d. lang in that picture?)


By dave. on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 09:11 pm:

    dick waterman. now there's a porn name.


By dave. on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 12:22 am:

    i dunno, patrick. is this really so awful? or this?

    you should be listening to this instead of that new york art fag wanker, john spencer. at least they know they're being goofy.


By drpy on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 12:57 am:

    watermelon dick.


By dave. on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 01:46 am:

    dickwater man.


By patrick on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 11:32 am:

    the first link didnt work.

    the second one sucks ass. that song exemplifies exactly what is lame about system of the down. a good friend directs a lot of heavy, thrash, alt-metal videos. the guitar riff (i could make the impression for you in person) is the same god damn riff in every other lame metal song thats out there.

    of course there are exceptions, there are good bands. system of the down just isnt one of them.

    the last link was cute, fucknoodle.

    "new york art fag wanker"

    whats wrong with ny?
    what you got something against art?
    what are you a homophobe now?
    everyone is a wanker.


    At least spence can drum a different riff for each song.

    Judah Bauer is a totally under rated blues guitarist. He spent some time with Hooker before he died, not to mention RL.

    thanks droop ill look that sight over.


By dave. on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 06:46 pm:

    HA!


By dave. on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 09:21 pm:

    i just listened to the whole new john spencer album. the whole thing. i tried to like it. dammit, i really wanted to like it.

    it was as profoundly boring as anything he or pussy galore ever did.

    maybe it would sound better if i were a new york art fag wanker or if i had a vagina.


By Gee on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 09:52 pm:

    you should be listening to me. all of you. you should all be listening to me.


    La la la la!


By eri on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 10:08 pm:

    I have been listening to "The Bond Girls" lately. I love the mixture of techno with celtic and the use of violin and viola. One day I will be able to play like that!


By Nate on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 12:39 am:

    one of the women i work with threw a copy of BUST magazine on my desk today.

    it was all about pez.

    seriously.

    pez is BUST magazine.

    at first i thought, AH! This is where pez gets her WHOLE GODDAMN PERSONALITY. she's a fraud!

    but then, no... everything is BUST is what pez was talking about six months ago.

    as if.. BUST is a slightly delayed journal of pez.

    BUST is pez. i had that backwards up above.

    and there was a bit on the new john spencer album.

    who knows if pez likes that. she probably is over it by now if she did. she was probably in on the recording sessions. she probably made suggestions that john spencer didn't take seriously.

    if he had, dave. would be a fan. surely.





By moonit on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 01:38 am:

    I like system of a down.

    I never really talk about what music I listen to hear because half the time I have no idea who the fuck you're all talking about.


By moonit on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 01:54 am:

    Fuck, that post is screwy. I'll start again.

    I like System of a Down. Actually I like a lot of different styles of music.

    Half the time I never know who you guys are talking about.


    There. Now I make sense.


By Nate on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 03:03 am:

    you just listen to a lot of crowded house, right?


By pez on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 05:25 am:


By J on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 11:56 am:

    I'm just trying to get the idea of Dave with a vagina out of my head.


By Nate on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 02:26 pm:

    the lili taylor one. the april one.

    with the article on knitting.


By pez on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 05:09 pm:

    the one that you can't get unless you have a subcription.

    oh.

    damn.


By moonit on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 09:31 pm:

    I don't really like crowded house that much.

    One of the Finn brothers sons has a band now called Betchadupa. They are okay.

    I like Goodshirt better.




By moo on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 09:37 pm:


By patrick on Monday, April 15, 2002 - 11:55 am:

    the JSBX album is not the best one, agreed. The first three are best.

    at least ny art fag wanker types are pretty and talented.

    Im sure you like other art faggy bands dave...they just may not be from ny


By dave. on Monday, April 15, 2002 - 10:24 pm:

    i like nick cave.

    new yorkers . . . art . . . fags . . . wankers

    by themselves, not a big deal. roll them all up together and throw 'em on a stage and that's my hell. wanna torture me? force me to go to a the strokes show. or sonic youth.

    blech.


By patrick on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 12:20 pm:

    see i feel the same way about cock rock like Kyuss, No Means No and the like. More distortion and reverb and volume DOTH NOT make your sound better.

    They are borderline metal bands, which to me is a genre that is terribly hard to be good and innovative at and easy to be terribly cheesy at.

    I wouldnt bother to see the strokes for other reasons. Their music ain't bad, its just its been commercialized for Gap ads. They rip on NY Dolls, VU and Television, which i can't knock them for, but they shouldn't be enjoying the commercial successes for emulating.


By dave. on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 01:15 pm:

    kyuss and nomeansno are only similar in that they have a guitar, bass, drums and some singing.

    can you describe to me what it felt like at that moment when you first realized that you knew it all?


By patrick on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 01:24 pm:

    they all sound the same to me.

    i think of music genres like the the color spectrum, and bands like them are in the shades moving from punk into thrash then metal. i prefer bands on the otherside of punk, moving towards indie, college rock and then straight up rock.

    i was too little to recognize that moment in my life.


By mom on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 01:49 pm:

    "Blessed are the ignorant, for they think they know it all"


By Beaver on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 02:21 pm:

    eat ass mom with your simpleton Ann Landers's quotes.


By June_Cleaver on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 03:48 pm:

    Munch, munch, slurp, tastes like shit....pussy....shit...pussy...dammit! Need better tongue control.


By dave. on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 09:43 pm:

    "i prefer bands on the otherside of punk, moving towards indie, college rock and then straight up rock."

    so punk is what - yellow? green? which side is metal -- blue or red? does that mean you like the dwarves more than green day? the fall or the buzzcocks? the smiths or the cure? the mekons or the ex. how much distortion and reverb is too much? does it have to be overdriven amp distortion or can it be some pedal-type distortion? why? what if it's a pedal but they told you it was an overdriven old fender amp and you believed them but they lied so you thought it was good but you were wrong? would you automatically hate it when you learned the truth? do you think the morley pedal destroyed rock n roll? why does it matter either way? what if john spencer joined meshuggah? what if les claypool joined jsbx? what if mike patton joined boys 2 men?



By dave. on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 09:48 pm:

    you've never heard kyuss, have you? admit it.


By eri on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 09:51 pm:

    Wow, I actually recognized and listen to three of the above mentioned bands. I feel so "in" right now ;)


By Nate on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 11:17 pm:

    i saw mike patton play with the boys2men. he shoved a tampon up his ass.


By moonit on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 05:10 am:

    Wicked, I recognised five.

    You go Dave.


By heather on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 11:05 am:

    me-konsme-kons me-kons!

    say it in that sing-songy bugsbunny way


    now i miss boston motherfucker


By patrick on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 12:29 pm:

    i heard kyuss a long time ago when i worked at the record store. my buddy who worked there with me used to listen to it, we'd smoke a bowl when opening the store at 9am, and he'd crank the kyuss up. he's the one that turned me on to such bands like budgie, chocolate watch band, groovie ghoulies and karp. kyuss was too metal for me then. so yes dave i've heard them, its been years. im just recalling what i heard years ago, thats all.

    maybe my associations are more conceptual than literal dave. i see influences where most don't.


By patrick on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 12:34 pm:

    actually i say "turned me on" to such bands but i don't really care for any of them except maybe budgie in a novelty kind of way. karp are just silly.


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