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By Lester on Friday, April 3, 1998 - 11:42 am: |
First of all, if you know anything about Tool and their philosophy, you're supposed to come up with your own meanings. There is no one set interpretation (don't you always hear Maynard saying "Think for yourself" in interviews? Yes.) However, "46+2" _does_ have some pretty standard interpretations (check Tool's FAQ for better descriptions than this following one). There are two standard ways you can interpret "46+2", using either evolutionary theory or Jung's archetypes. Evolution says this -- we have 44+2 chromosomes. The form of the human before homo sapiens sapiens had 42+2. Therefore, 46+2 represents humans at the next stage of their development. So here the theme of the song is progression, evolution, getting rid of the old you and finding the new you. However, there are a lot of references to the "Shadow" in the song. The Shadow, according to Jung, is that which is the antithesis of yourself, and yet all of us have a Shadow within ourselves. The Shadow, traditionally, is considered one's "dark side," though this is not necessarily the case. Now, Jung believed that unless we recognize our Shadows and accept them (embrace them instead of denying them) we will be very unhappy individuals. For example, if someone has an image of themselves as being very proper, lady- or gentleman- like, virtuous, pure people, one's Shadow is very sensual and pleasure-loving. If that person continues to deny that he or she (probably she, if you'll forgive me for saying so) has a sensual side, then that person will have a very warped view of sex (seeing it as dirty, humiliating, sinful, etc.) Embracing the Shadow, in this case, would not mean that she has to become promiscuous or anything, just that she has to recognize that she is a sexual being and that there is nothing wrong with that. SO, in the song, the person embraces his Shadow and is able to move on and become a new kind of person with this new knowledge. "H," on the other hand, is more open to everyone's individual opinion. To me, it seems to echo "Sober." The narrator (not necessarily MJK) is continuously haunted by his past or himself. He says something like "Days before I still feel you touching me, changing me." (sorry if this isn't accurate) The snake is the thing in your past (or the aspect of your personality or a person you know or whatever) that you are eternally trying to escape, and yet it keeps popping up in front of you, refusing to go away. "And I feel this coming over like a storm again, considerately." Meaning, it overtakes you before you know it. It tempts you because you'd (consciously or unconsciously) like to go back to that state, or have that addiction, or behave in a certain way, or fall back into madness, but you can't let yourself. You can't allow yourself to give in to whatever it is you're trying to escape. Tool has really great songs, and you should all check them out (or just go to one of their websites). A lot of people (who are idiots) just like them for their sound. If you really listen to what they say, though, you'd be surprised with the insights into yourself and the world and life that you come away with. Their songs have all these layers to them: you can listen to a song for 50 times and realize what it really means on the 51st listen, and then by the 101st listen, the song has a completely different meaning to you. It's really neat. |
By Jim aka PajamaBoy on Friday, April 3, 1998 - 12:22 pm: |
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By Dave on Friday, April 3, 1998 - 01:10 pm: |
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By Jim aka PajamaBoy on Friday, April 3, 1998 - 01:39 pm: |
Come on. I know who KC & Jo Jo are but Tool? |
By Nate on Friday, April 3, 1998 - 02:19 pm: |
Last year I bought AEnema and played it over and over and over for about a month. In an odd way it helped me through my biggest hells to date. My roommate last year bought REM's "Adventures in HiFi" (or whatever that album is called.) He played it over and over. I started hiding it. He said "Hey, you played Tool over and over again." I said, "That's different." Because it is. |
By Jim aka PajamaBoy on Friday, April 3, 1998 - 02:57 pm: |
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By Blindswine on Friday, April 3, 1998 - 03:00 pm: |
let me put it this way. i don't even *like* much "rock" music. but i own a tool cd. why? cuz both lyrically and musically, those boys are the shit. 'nuff said. |
By Jim aka PajamaBoy on Friday, April 3, 1998 - 03:36 pm: |
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By Brad on Friday, April 17, 1998 - 03:32 am: |
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By Sariah on Sunday, June 21, 1998 - 10:19 pm: |
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By Overlord of Hell on Sunday, July 12, 1998 - 03:56 pm: |
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Definetely not! I live in Sweden and have never heard any of their songs on the radio. Iīve been listening to Aenima almost every day for almost two years. If I were a religious person MJK would be my GOD! Heīs got a voice of an angel. Just listen to "Pushit"(I most persuade you another way). Just waiting for Aenimaīs follow-up. Thatīs all I had to say... |
before you point your finger you should know that I'm the man. I'm the man and you're the man and he's the man as well so you can point that fucking finger up your ass all you know about me is what I sold you (dumb-fuck) I sold out long before you even (heard my name) I sold my soul to make a record (dip shit) then you bought one why do I love those lines so much? not like the usual Tool poetry dream underwater sound...he sounds so angry...angry angel Maynard.... hope you got an album or an mp3 by now Jim-boy, you're missing out here. (constant...over-rated....stimulation....numbs me...but I would not want you any other way) half the fun is figuring out what the hell he's singing. Opiate, all you beautiful sorabjians |
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My intepritation of Tool's songs is slightly different from others when it comes to H. At first I thought it was refering to heroine. "Days away I still feel you toaching me changing me and concideratly killing me." The lyrics "My blood before me begs me open up my heart again" also led me to belive what I thought. As I listen to It more I now think it could be refering to the chimical symbol for Hydrogin. When Maynard says "and I fell this coming over like a storm again" could be making a gesture twords crying. Water combines with Hydrogyn and forms tears. That is what Lachromology is about(the study of crying) and that is Tool's beliefs. Always form your own interpritatoin of these songs . I am still working on Lateralus, which is one of their best albums next to AEnema. |
LISTEN TO THE CRIES OF THE CARROTS REV.MAYNARD! And for all of you who just jumped on the TooL bandwagon..if you don't have Opiate you don't have life..if you haven't had sex or done hard drugs to any tool album...your missing out... |
(whatever that means to you), you would have noticed that Joel posted in 1998. That's four years ago, ok? |
when you were 7 (almost 8!) star, dear. dumbass. bandwagon jumper. |
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i had never heard of such a no fuss method of taking in heroin, but i suppose for the chic, there are no tracks, no smoke and no snorts. but then again, its your eyes man. i also was chatting on and on with a guy about music only to find out he was the guitarist for the Lily's. I praised their first album 8 years ago but didnt say anything about the stuff they've done since, as its not very good. |
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yeah thats him i dont think you understand how exciting this was for me. here i am geeking about records (he schooled me that indeed "I Dont Care If You Go" Velocity Girl single on Slumberland was NOT the first single by them, but rather the third. Here i was thinking i had a copy of the very first and very best.HA!), telling him my indie rock crush on Sarah from Velocity Girl, led to me to play music, which led him to say he was in a band, when he revealed who, I, in my tipsy stupor was floored. Here i was outside a downtown hotel bar, having a smoke with a member of the Lilys, whos album had courted many a drunken, high stupors, many a sex-filled evenings, many mellow evenings. I was also a bit shocked (apprently im not the only one) that the Lilys arent english. They are from Philly. Its an easy mistake to make considering they hit the scene right around the same time with MBV, Ride, Lush, Spacemen 3, Slowdive and Stereolab....all english, all with comparable sounds. Its an easy mistake. A bit later as we were leaving he was chatting with nico and apparently he fondly regarded me as a giddy school kid dorking about music and such. Thats fine, I felt as such and didnt mind. |
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tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick |
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Oh yeah, and they rock like you wouldn't believe. |
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Low-brow, high-brow, all is good. I bought a Judas Priest greatest hits tape at the gas station for a lark the other day, $5, "Prisoner of Pain". I popped it in the 4runner and one of my employees got all excited and started raving about how timeless Judas Priest's music is. Keep that in mind. Not that I'm dissing Tool, mind you... |
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timeless music? that's the kiss of death. |
new tool album due in early months of 2005 much heavier than Lat. 10-12 tracks once MJK finishes with APC in June this year he'll start laying vocals to pieces of music that have and are being created. |
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