second before last movie: U-571


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By semillama on Sunday, May 21, 2000 - 11:51 am:

    I didn't think I would like this movie as much as I did. It's definitely a "guy" flick. They did their research. Pretty intense at times, like a good submarine movie should be.

    Even Jon Bon Jovi was good in it. There were some parts that seemed a little contrived, but over all, I recommend it.


By Isolde on Sunday, May 21, 2000 - 12:53 pm:

    I love submarine movies, so I enjoyed it.
    When you think about it, the outcome of a submarine movie is pretty predicatable. Yet, we keep watching them. I'mnot sure why this is. But for some reason, the genre appeals to a lot of people. Peculiar.


By Gee on Monday, May 22, 2000 - 02:06 am:

    I didn't like it, my brother didn't like it, you two are the first people I've seen who Have liked it.

    I didn't hate it, but I didn't Like it. I kept getting the feeling during the movie that they wanted me to feel suspensful, but I didn't.

    Please tell me which character Jon Bon Jovi played. I saw his name in the credits and was really surprised.


    that reminds me. does anyone know who that woman from Gladiator was? The pretty sister. I thought she looked so familiar and I waited until the credits to see her name but I didn't recognize it.


By Cannon7 on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 11:06 am:

    'They did their research' .... umm, no.

    Actually U-571 had nothing to do with Americans at all. It was actually a British mission, so pretty much nothing in the movie ever happened. The factual events were twisted to boost America's false pride over World War II. Britain, the Commonwealth (Canada/Australia), and Russia fought that war, the U.S. pretty watched until everyone was already beaten.

    I thought the plot was crap, and half the movie is dead-silence.


By M on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 11:27 am:


By semillama on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 12:51 pm:

    What I meant by research was not the historical accuracy of the events, but of the sets, costumes, etc.

    And if you want to talk about America in the European Theatre of WWII, you can't ignore the importance of Lend-Lease. How far would the brits have gotten without our supplies? How muchlonger would the war have gone on without our entry into the European Theatre? And it seems like the Commonwealth didn't do aas much as the US did or at least lost a lot less men.

    Seems like I'm not the only one who can be accused of not doing research.


By semillama on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 12:52 pm:

    oh, and Bon Jovi was the guy with curly hair who was listening for the sounds of screwes and splashes.


By patrick on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 01:23 pm:

    the Lend-Lease and Cash-Carry policies of Roosevelt saved Britains'and Frances'.

    uhhhh Pearl Harbor Canon?????

    America was fighting 3 seperate fronts.

    The Northern Saharan front, West Europe and the Pacific?

    American forces conquered Sicily in 5 weeks?

    Normandy?

    False pride?

    How many have to die to legitimatize being appreciative and proud of those who served.


    i haven't seen the movie. I have been on a submarine on several occassions, tours and what not.


By Jay on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 01:54 pm:

    das boot baby!


By patrick on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 03:29 pm:

    there shoudl be an "ass" up there after Britains' and Frances'


By patrick on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 03:31 pm:

    those numbers are staggering sem


By semillama on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 03:44 pm:

    Aren't they? (Credit to M, who posted the link).

    about 2.6% of the people in the world died as a result of WWII.


By Cat on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 04:28 pm:

    Actually, one very under-estimated part of WWII was America's role in the Pacific. Britain was too busy saving it's own ass to worry about the Southern Hemisphere.

    When Australian troops were brought home to defend against a Japanese invasion, Churchill tried to divert them to Egypt.

    It's generally acknowledged that America saved us from having to wear kimonos on a permanent basis.

    MacArthur is somewhat of a legend in Oz still. I still think his sunglasses were cool too.


By Cannon7 on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 07:37 pm:

    The U.S. casualties reflect the battles with Japan, not as much Axis. The point is, how much longer would the war have gone if the British didnt get a hold of that encryption technology? Thats the point kids.

    Normandy wasnt just American forces... dont claim all the credit now...

    And as far as death toll figures... it's unfourtunate that many reports were exagerrated. We may never know how many died.

    Oh, and America will have pride no matter what (it's got a major ego, heh), so dont get all bent out of shape.



By Gee on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 07:45 pm:

    thanks Semillama.

    I wish people would stop saying "umm...blahblah?". They used to say that a lot on the Prodigy BB's and I don't like being reminded of those days.

    I feel like I've grown so much.


By Isolde on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 07:45 pm:

    He's right. U571 was inaccurate, and I think the British deserved credit, which they seemed to e accomplishing pretty well, since most Americans at this point know it was the British. Not, of course, to detract from the men and women who fought bravel and died during the seemingly endless travails of a pointless war.


By semillama on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 08:24 pm:

    Anyway, as far as the genre goes, not too bad a flick.

    although I do wonder: Did WWII ship's cooks really know how to pilot a submarine?


By patrick on Thursday, June 15, 2000 - 12:35 pm:

    I didn't mean to downplay anyone's role in that war.......have you ever read up on the details of the "Battle of Britain"....the air war the waged and won? THATS an unbelievable story.


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