I'll say this:There was a theatre full of children,of all ages,and not a peep out of them during the film. Entertaining,but a little long,I heard one of my spawn critique it with,"anti-climatic",a term I wasn't aware she knew. There came a point,where the audience sorta started to get up,and get snacks,use restroom,etc,I think it kinda lingered on after that point.But mostly it held my attention.

It was alright. I thought that they did a good job of translating the book to film, but then again, it was so good a job that it seemed like I'd already seen it.

I don't want to wait. But I will. And, I'll avoid the munchkin hours.

Hey, when I saw it, the theatre was packed with kids, and there wasn't a peep out of a one of them during the entire movie.

what is it with adults and this kids movie?

go see it, patrick. it was amazing.

Patrick, we know you like to think of yourself as an old man, but live a little, okay?

Hey, I didn't realize I was plagiarizing Czarina in my 8:54 am post. Sorry about that.

live a little? did you read my description of the debauchery on Friday night at my house? Takin in a kids movie is living a little to you, shelling out for the good vodka (for more than 2 drinky drinks) is living a little to me. Taking in a slutty strip tease in Vegas or dropping $25 on a blackjack hand is living a little. I generally find kids movies boring. Even as a kid. Although i did watch Rudolph, Frosty and the Peanuts Christmas special the other night. It made me nostalgic. I remember being so excited as a child when those 3 programs came on. They solidfied that it was xmas time...they made me feel tremendously wamr. Usually we put up our decorations while they were on TV as well. Further, claymation makes me very happy, much more so than most animation. Tonight im going to watch this movie from the 70s with Malcolm McDowell called O Lucky Man.

that's a great movie. i haven't seen it in a long time. patrick, promise me that you will go to see harry potter. promise?

naw. maybe i'll rent it when its on video, but I doubt I'll see it in the theater.

A wise man once said, "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."

well jeeeze spider thats no fun. a wise man once said "take it off already"

No, dummy, that *is* fun. That's saying go ahead and watch kids' movies and read fairy tales and wrestle with your young friend H, because who gives a shit about looking mature and grown up all the time?

i don't care about looking mature and grown up. my lifestyle clearly indicates that. i saw there is a television show coming on about Jack and the Beanstalk. I got the impression in the 10 seconds that they are going to start doing fairytales for TV. Id love that. I never read the Hobit or Lord of the Rings, but I did read C.S. Lewis's Lion, Witch and Wardrobe series. I suppose if a movie came out about that Id be pretty excited, much like many are for Lord of the Rings. My grandmother used to read to me a book of fairytales and tall tales. Some of my favorites were Rumplestilskin, the Fisherman's Wife, Hansel and Gretle and other Grimm tales. Actually that may be a nice idea for a Christmas gift for H. The kids has WAYYYYY to many toys as it is. I see your point spidey but my lack of interest in popular childrens films doth not make your point. POO!!!!

patrick, you should really go see it in the theatre. can't you just take my word on this one? buy tickets in advance on fandango, and go about a half hour early, and you won't have to interact with anyone.

Actually, C.S. Lewis was the wise man who spake my quote. Anyway, whatever. See the Lord of the Rings if you don't want to see Harry Potter. (Did you see the previews for it on TV yet? The Black Riders are scary!)

its not a matter of taking your word. really, its not. its just a matter of priorities. what is fandango?

it's a website where you can buy your movie tickets ahead of time. it rocks. you can change priorities. i do it all the time.

I can not wait for Lord of the Rings. It's going to blow everything out of the water.

Look at this picture. Scary, I say!

Harry Potter has those things in it too. In a later book.

Patrick,the only one you are selling short,by refusing to read the book,or see the movie,is yourself. It is really most remarkable,for both young and old.Well worth the time you money you might invest. As a matter of fact,as I recall,you have been needing some distractions in your life about now,I can promise that this would be a most enjoyable distraction for you :)

I am going tomorrow,I don't care if kids are there,it's against my law to spend full price for movies. I want to see them the way they were shown.

meant to be shown.

I can't wait for lord of the rings. We have been teased by trailers for ages. Texting the stupid codes to stupid numbers trying to win stupid tickets to the premiere. How cool would that be!

Patrick: Wait til Harry Potter hits the second-run theaters/after all the critters & their keepers have already seen it. Go w/Nico to the latest possible showing on a Wed. nite when nobody's there but the derelicts & the odd 16-yr-old who wdn't be caught dead at a matinee or a kid's movie. Sit in the back row & discreetly do the nasty w/yr wife while watching Harry Potter. It's cheaper than a hand of blackjack but definitely qualifies as 'living a little'. ;) I don't intend to see it 'til it comes out on video. My feeling is, why pay $8.00 for a movie when I can't even have a smoke & a margarita as part of the experience? The last movie I paid to see in a theater was MAGNOLIA. The next one I suspect I'll pay to see in a theater is ALI. Maybe. But I will prolly break down & get a DVD player soon. I see that Blockbuster has devoted 25% of it's floospace to DVD's. I'm afraid in 3 yrs./movies on VHS will be as hard to find as movies on Beta.

no way. beta didnt have 20+ years of production like VHS has had. there are way too many VHS tapes out there, and continually being made. shit, vinyl is still being produced. the only advantage with dvd is if you have a bitchin system to begin with. my system is mediocre, great for my sized apartment. my vcr is a good one, my receiver is a good one, my TV is fair. i dont see any need for DVD right now until i can have the cash to buy a better TV.

what is it with all of you needing to avoid the kids? what's wrong with kids? i went when the theatre was full of kids, and they didn't make a peep during the entire movie. even dave went, and really liked it. that's saying a lot. it's the sort of movie that you should really see in a theatre. it will be good either way, but the effects are awesome on the big screen. then again, do whatever the hell you want, you old stick in the muds.

I don't even plan on acquiring DVDs until either I own outright this iBook or when Fellowship of The Ring is out on DVD.

generally speaking agatha, when you dont have kids you don't want kids. kids are generally regarded as a pain in the ass at movies. working right next to the El Capitan which is owned by Disney, which caters to kids....its a theater totally for kids. The only adults you see there are with the kids. (they even turned the old Masonic temple right next door into a interactive musuem gallery for each movie. Right now its the Monster Inc. Headquarters "Welcome Humans" it says.) I can understand where they are coming from because if you've had a movie ruined once by kids, you dont want to go through it again.

feh, i say. feh.

Patrick, If you don't want to see the movie. Read the book. Harry Potter is more than just for kids. The writing is excellent. The characters wonderful. And, the story telling superb. This is great literature in the popular sense. I think if you read The Sorcers Stone. You will definately see why Harry Potter is big. I did and I can't put these books down. I've read each of them three times so far.

agatha, I've been to to many movies where the parents wouldn't control their spawn. And, the younger teenagers are the worst. That's why I love the scene in "Scarry Movie" in the theater. I'll stick to just the times when I'm less likely to run into the beasts. Also, my VCR and Direct TV satalite. I'll get a recordable DVD when they become available at a reasonable price. $1000 is to much.

i've been to more movies with obnoxious adults that wouldn't shut up than i have with kids whose parents wouldn't "control" them.

I just want to say that I really want to hang out with alll the west coast Sorabjites very much. ok?

Sorabjifest-West! Yeah!

I say Sorabji-SouthernHemisphere Rocks. hehe Potter starts tonight here.

I keep trying to con Mark down here with promises of nude horny girls using outback payphones. Maybe I should concentrate more on the hugosity of our juicy steaks and amazing variety of free piano music floating all over the harbour.

I just found out the other night that a good friend of mine is heading down to New Zealand for a year. She's going to do a year of school down there and I'm incredibly jealous. So incredibly jealous. If I can possibly afford it, I'm going to try and make a visit. I might have to find nefarious means of funding, but that wouldn't bother me too much.

TBone which part is she heading to? Because if you do come, you know you have to visit Christchurch. ; ) Make sure you stuff Hal in your suitcase k!

This is scary,and I probably shouldn't post it,but i will. Last night at work,on tv,we were watching "Forensic Files"[after all the psychotic,ax murdering patients were in bed] Well,it was about a dead guy.A internet "friend" killed him.A guy met some "girl" in a chat room,she even posted her pic.she was cute.[it was later discovered that the pic was actually something clipped out of a mag,not even a real person]They never really talked verbally,cause the "girl" said said that her jaw was wired,cause an ex-boyfriend had smacked her,and broken it.So,they just communicate via the chat room.. Anyway,it all occured around Texas A&M,or maybe Baylor.So,the potential dead guy,"falls" for this cutie,and eventually goes to meet her. Then I got a phone call,and got invited to this drug party at Ruth Chris Steak house[which is why I'm drunk,now]So,I kinda missed part of the show,butI got some of the important stuff. There was never a "girl" at all.It was a guy,and I don't know if he was gay,or not,but I don't thionk so,I think he was just crazy.He got booted out of school,and his mom, says he'd spend about 12 hours a day in chat rooms. So,the potential dead guy,goes to meet this "girl" he's fallen for and ends up getting killed by this crazy guy. Besides this being an incrediabally sad story,there are some interesting things that I wanted to address. They found his body,but had a hard time solving the crime.[but they did,and the killer is in prison,I missed the part about why he did it,I think he was just crazy] But what i wanted to comment/ask about was this: Eventually,the police/FBI,kinda found out about the "girl",from the dead guys roomate.But couldn't find her[cause she wasn't a real person]So they[police], put an article in the local paper about it,and a guy that knew the dead guy fro m the chat room came forth,and the police,were able to kinda trace the source from,a disk this guy supplied.Apparently,its very tricky to trace stuff just from a chat room.[there were basically no emails between the dead guy and the "girl",which,had there been,would have been easy to trace] So,the police kinda knew where to look,from this disk.They went to the killers mothers house[where the killer lived],and consficated the computer.And were someway able to pull up all of the chat room conversations.This is wahat has me interested. Besides being VERY glad they were able to find and punish the killer,I am confused about how the police could pull up all of the chat room talks. Is everything we do,someway stored in our computers?Even if we delete history?I,mean,in this case I'm glad they were able to do it,and prosecute the killer,but are we all leaving records of our computer activities?

This is scary,and I probably shouldn't post it,but i will. Last night at work,on tv,we were watching "Forensic Files"[after all the psychotic,ax murdering patients were in bed] Well,it was about a dead guy.A internet "friend" killed him.A guy met some "girl" in a chat room,she even posted her pic.she was cute.[it was later discovered that the pic was actually something clipped out of a mag,not even a real person]They never really talked verbally,cause the "girl" said said that her jaw was wired,cause an ex-boyfriend had smacked her,and broken it.So,they just communicate via the chat room.. Anyway,it all occured around Texas A&M,or maybe Baylor.So,the potential dead guy,"falls" for this cutie,and eventually goes to meet her. Then I got a phone call,and got invited to this drug party at Ruth Chris Steak house[which is why I'm drunk,now]So,I kinda missed part of the show,butI got some of the important stuff. There was never a "girl" at all.It was a guy,and I don't know if he was gay,or not,but I don't thionk so,I think he was just crazy.He got booted out of school,and his mom, says he'd spend about 12 hours a day in chat rooms. So,the potential dead guy,goes to meet this "girl" he's fallen for and ends up getting killed by this crazy guy. Besides this being an incrediabally sad story,there are some interesting things that I wanted to address. They found his body,but had a hard time solving the crime.[but they did,and the killer is in prison,I missed the part about why he did it,I think he was just crazy] But what i wanted to comment/ask about was this: Eventually,the police/FBI,kinda found out about the "girl",from the dead guys roomate.But couldn't find her[cause she wasn't a real person]So they[police], put an article in the local paper about it,and a guy that knew the dead guy fro m the chat room came forth,and the police,were able to kinda trace the source from,a disk this guy supplied.Apparently,its very tricky to trace stuff just from a chat room.[there were basically no emails between the dead guy and the "girl",which,had there been,would have been easy to trace] So,the police kinda knew where to look,from this disk.They went to the killers mothers house[where the killer lived],and consficated the computer.And were someway able to pull up all of the chat room conversations.This is wahat has me interested. Besides being VERY glad they were able to find and punish the killer,I am confused about how the police could pull up all of the chat room talks. Is everything we do,someway stored in our computers?Even if we delete history?I,mean,in this case I'm glad they were able to do it,and prosecute the killer,but are we all leaving records of our computer activities?

I'd say, "probably"... Do you really doubt that the shit you put out there is private, or that it doesn't get read by someone? I'm basically not even careful about what I say and do, on the net, now----because I believe I've been watched for years---so nothing I say at this point matters. They're gonna come get me or they won't----there's nothing I can do about it. Patrick, catch "Harry Potter"----best kid's movie I've seen in years....if you haven't read the book, double good for you---because unlike the folks who have, you'll be suprised by all the twists and turns....

A lot of stuff ends up in caches. I just discovered a huge hunk of my hard-drive being taken up by we caches on my work machine... Freed up a couple hundred megs. There was a bunch of stuff I didn't recognize. But also a lot of people just lot all their chatroom s for their own purposes. Somewhere I've got a big archive of every word said in my old chatroom over a span of a couple years. I'm not sure where she's headed, but I'll definately hit Christchurch and hang with you, moonit. That is, as long as you aren't some guy who just wants to kill me. You think Hal would make it alright in one of those kennel things?

I'll show you a kennel boy... No no no, TBone will be flying 3rd class back with the baggage while I live it up in 1st. Fuck you, you ass.

You know I always wondered the morning after how coherent I was the night before while drinking, and I guess fairly coherent is the answer.

I promise I am a woman. Ask Hal. He's heard my odd accent!

Yes, and a sweet accent it is too... I'm such a goofball... No seriously though, moonit has this really cute kiwi accent... Sultry in its own way.

A lot of people forget to delete the cookies a lot of sites put on their computers. Or, they forget to clean out the recycle bin. You'd be surprised how much stuff gets stored there.

word of advice about cookies; dont delete them from your disk. you often accept the terms and conditions of sites when you enter them. One of the main terms and conditions if you ever actually read the small print is that you will enable cookies. This is not a big deal until you are ordering something over the net. Then, if you have disabled cookies you are in breach of contract and have forfeited your warranty rights. There is a precedent set in the Mississippi courts last year. If you are ordering goods dont disable cookies. Another point; you never actually empty the recycle bin. The transaction stays on the disk and is easily recalled. Unscrupulous sites operate what are known as "weasels". The "weasel" is coded into the original cookie and notifies the site that you are trying to disable cookies. The "weasel" burrows into the disk and continues to allow access to your computer. Again, not a big deal unless you are engaged in suspect activities. The government is known to have tapped into soviet computers by the simple expedient of letting them buy american hardware via pakistan.The shared "weasels" simply reeled off the disk contents to Cheyenne Mountain. Easy when you know how isnt it?

Deleting cookies and disabling cookies are two different things. You can delete cookies all you want afterward. Cookies are also not programs. They can't do shit. They are just data that can be retrieved by the site that put them there (though there are bugs in some browsers that allow sites to retrieve any cookies stored on the machine). Cookies are for tracking surfers. They are often necessary in things like shopping carts so that they can remember what you wanted to buy. They are frequently used by ad companies to determine what kinds of sites you like so they can show you ads that you are more likely to be interested in. So in that sense, they're creepy. They can't "notify" or "burrow" or give access to your machine. Easy when you know what you're talking about, isn't it?

If you don't delete yr ocokies on a regular basis/they *do* take up a lot of hardrive space. I'd rather remember passwords & sign in each time I visit a site than leave the cookies on my drive. I have a program called Window Washer that I run every nite after I get off the web. It deletes cookies & other bs stored files from places I didn't even know they existed. And it shows you how much disk space you got back from the deletions. You can get a free trial version here: webroot

TBone, I am talking about the world of post-viral software here. It is a third level program that hitches a ride on the so called innocent cookie. It detaches itself once the cookie is installed and runs separately and permanently streaming off packets of disk information. You cannot disable it and you can only delete these dangerous third level programs if you nuke the machine.

Point us to some URLs about weasels, Fleischer.

It is possible. And, true in some cases. I just prefer to free the space.

No it's not. Software can't ride on a cookie. It can't "detatch" itself because it's not a program. It's not running. No operations, no control. It's just data. Like a text file. It's not like it can become sentient or something. You'd be hard-pressed to attatch some malicious program to a chunk of text limited to 4k. If you've ever USED them and coded a dynamic site, you'd know. But you obviously haven't.

and total cookies are limited to 1200K. ignore me.

sorry to change the topic but.... i saw Harry Potter last night and it was really great. Eyecandy and a wonderful story to boot. I'm so glad i didn't read the book first. It's sad that it takes so much money to bring something like that to life so seamlessly. The shots in the great hall/dining room place were the best (i thought), and the only problem i could find in the whole thing was that the CGI people in the Quidditch game moved really really bad. But you know me, i'm a animation bitch. For some reason (that i haven't figured out yet) the book and movie had the title changed in the US, so here and in the UK, and possibly the rest of the world, it's called Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. Although i can't imagine why, the US being the breeding ground for people who would take offence to the "demonic undertones" of the word Sorcerer. What do they call the stone in the book's text? In the states release of the movie do the characters call it the Sorcerer's Stone or the Philosopher's stone? hmmm? p.s. Alan Rickman is indeed hot shit. His first shot had me grinning and clapping. the Boy: "you like him, don't you?" me: "he's awesome wicked. Like a new Tim Curry" Boy: "yeah, like Tim Curry, but with a career" de-licious.

"philosopher's stone" is in my dictionary as a legendary substance that changes metal into gold. it's possible that this is more well-known in the UK, and they changed it so as not to confuse the americans. sort of like the way they graciously changed the name of "the madness of king george III" to just "...king george" so we wouldn't think we missed the first two movies.

righty-o. Research has taught me that they changed the title so as not to confuse the little wee americans. They also changed a few words in the book that would not have made sense in the states, like sellotape - tape, pitch - field and dolly - truck. N' stuff.

Everyone's pushing me to see it. I'll see it eventually, but the lines look dangerous.

There are lines in Montana? My dad, being a philosopher, was really pissed they changed the name of the stone.

repeat after me: FANDANGO!

Fandango. Now what? I think I am going to see Harry tomorrow night. yay

not you, moonit. you're from "over there," and i don't know if they have fandango "over there."

okay explain fandango. sometimes when i come here i feel like fez from that 70s show.

I have been wanting to see Potter since it came out. I think I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and go by myself since none of my friends are even remotely interested. They just don't understand.

i just wanted to tell you all that i am going to see the new harry potter tomorrow, compliments of my lovely lovely job employer thing

I can't wait! Maybe this weekend. Email me, Heather, I want to know about your life right now.

yeah, me too. and if you're going to go see harry potter without me i'm going to go fuck whores and smoke crack.

awww so sorry they would only give me one ticket....but i tried

well, since you tried i'll only go smoke crack.

My family is already making ominous noises about going to go see it in a "real" movie theater when they come for thanksgiving.

as opposed to last year when you made them sit in a culvert and watch you do your 'pantomime of shadows' behind a white sheet?

It was probably more like a Kenner Give-A-Show projector. I still have mine. Burried smoewhere in the basement.

how weird. I still feel like fez when i come here. sometimes.

Isn't Fez a cutie?

heh. funny peepul1

yeap i'd do him. heh : ) i also love the episodes when he dances.

I saw Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets a couple of weeks ago. I liked it even more than the first. And, I keep watching the first movie when it shows up on HBO. I wanted to go to a matinee and save a few bucks. But, my plumber problem kept me home. So, I went to the last showing. It was great. No screaming kids. And, hardly anyone else in the theater. I love nice quiet empty theaters. You can just sit back relax. Gorge yourself on popcorn. And, get lost in the movie. I wish I could go more often. But, the prices at the theaters today are outragious. I think even the cheaper matinees are to expensive. And, the concession stand is even worse.

You need a good theatre that only shows movies after they have been out for a couple months for dirt cheap. There is one in Columbus that is ten times better than the first-run theatres here in my home town (I went to the best one today to see Two Towers with the fam and the sound kept fucking up) and it only costs a buck to see a flick.

We've had a few of those. But, they always seem to lose money and close.

with an old coat, a piece of cardboard and a sharpie you can get $7.50 in half an hour.

And maybe if I use my wife's wheelchair I could get more. No thank you.

if you brushed up on sucking cock, i'm sure you could get more, too. (literally, not figuratively.)