Donnie Darko


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By wisper on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 02:53 pm:

    to think i could loose sleep over a rabbit. It's
    not my fault, they gave him the perfect scary
    voice, just what you'd expect an evil voice
    inside your head to sound like, all calm and
    quiet. ...
    shit, i don't even want to think about him.

    this movie is great. I don't want to go into it, for
    fear of ruining things that you only understand
    later, sometimes days later, but this is a
    movie that your brain really wants to wrap
    around. Scary and very depressing and
    hillarious too, it stars that delightful Jake
    Gyllenhaal (the guy in BubbleBoy, who is
    charming the pants off me. I hope he keeps
    taking these risky and inovative roles).
    I don't even think this was released anywhere
    near me, it just came out to rent last week.
    Also it might have been played down after all
    the 9-11 "we can't show anything blowing up
    or anything with planes for 6 months" crap.
    It's a shame, this is a really good, really
    different movie. It's about sanity and love and
    god and rabbits and Oct. 2nd 1988.

    It will fuck with you for a good long while.


By Christopher on Wednesday, April 3, 2002 - 02:52 pm:

    this was one hell of a first movie. Granted, it could have been edited more tightly, and Drew Barrymore's presence was little more than a name draw, but it sure made me sit up and take notice. I think that the folks on these boards owe it to themselves to see this. I loved the Graham Greene references. The whole shebang is like one great puzzle. Cool soundtrack too. check it out...


By pez on Wednesday, April 3, 2002 - 02:54 pm:

    i watched it last week.

    not bad. what's weird is a friend of mine does similar bunny drawerings...


By Nate on Wednesday, April 3, 2002 - 04:02 pm:

    it was produced by drew's flower company.

    i watched it last night.


By eri on Wednesday, April 3, 2002 - 04:23 pm:

    I haven't even heard of this one. For some reason I like movies where Drew is there more for name than anything else. Like in Scream. I thought is was funny as hell that she was offed in the the first scene of the movie.


By patrick on Wednesday, April 3, 2002 - 04:27 pm:

    that was such a case in which she was there for name only.

    having Drew in your trailer will sell movie tickets.

    off-ing her in the first scene pretty much says she only did it for the money and got away with as little as possible.


By Christopher on Wednesday, April 3, 2002 - 04:29 pm:

    Nate, I watched it last night too, and honestly didn't sleep well. Thats an indicator of a good movie in my book. "I can do anything I want. So can you" has to be one of the creepiest lines in the movie, but it has resonance. Lately, I've been feeling that reality is a thin fabric that can easily be torn away. There seems to be a certain inevitability about the events that are playing out on the world stage right now. I recall reading crap in Readers Digest when I was a kid that scared the piss out of me; Nostradamus' predictions, Jeanne Dixons soothsaying, etc. They all said that the end of the world was going to be delivered to us via the Middle East. The fact that the powers that be seem to be deliberately trying to bring this to fruition is causing me to question a LOT of what I perceive as reality. Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking to fall into delusional insanity, but I just get the feeling that the current depiction of reality is about to be crumpled up like an old newspaper, and something new, something darker is going to be forced on us. Someone elses ideal. Something elses ideal...And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Bethlehem to be born? Have you ever thought that reality might be more pliable than we ever could have expected?


By heather on Wednesday, April 3, 2002 - 04:32 pm:

    you can do anything you want


    no one ever believes me

    anyway, why does the new reality have to be darker?

    did nate tell you about the red cows?


By Nate on Wednesday, April 3, 2002 - 05:23 pm:

    reality is so subjective, how can it be anything but pliable?

    i lay in bed trying to force the importance of my connections to reality (responsibilities, work, mortgage, etc.) out of my existance. it scares me. like a rollercoaster, stomach in the air kind of scary.

    i question my perception of reality all the time. this morning on my way to work my wipers did a single swoosh across the windscreen. my first thought was, did that really happen? i thought about that the rest of the way to work. you'd expect to first think, why did that happen? what is wrong with my wipers? but no, i'm wondering if i'm losing my connection to the 'real world'.

    in order to rebuild the Temple, israel needs a red heffer without blemish or spot (and apparently born in israel.) we heard on 'this american life' saturday a man in mississippi has taken it upon himself to breed a strain of red heffer that will survive in the arid conditions of israel. this was a rebroadcast from a 1999 show.

    three things leading to the apocalypse- israel regains statehood (check), israel regains jeruseleum (any day now), israel rebuilds the Temple (well, they have the red heffers.)

    that show also had a woman who was predicting the start of the apocalypse would be sept 11, 1999.



By Dougie on Wednesday, April 3, 2002 - 05:44 pm:

    Is this out in theaters or on video? Never heard of it, nor Gummo from another thread. Drew Barrymore annoys me though -- does her being in it detract from the movie?


By eri on Wednesday, April 3, 2002 - 05:51 pm:

    I recently read a book on Nostradamus predictions. Hopefully this will help put your mind at a little ease, Christopher. This war is supposed to go on for 27 years, and it is going to be devistating to us physically, but basically in the way of we will have to start over, growing our own foods on the land, building our own houses. Like "Little House on the Prairie" or some shit like that. No modern conveniences, cuz they will all be gone. After that we are supposed to reach our "Golden Age" which will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 7,000 years of world wide peace, and acceptance. Some kind of new world order, that will put all countries on the same plain, economically, etc. No more famine, no more third world countries. Everyone has access to medicine.

    It was an entertaining read to say the least.

    As I am looking at the book now, I see more clearly than our problems with "terrorism" and "Al-Queda" he talks about problems between two countries in the middle east battling. He calls one the white one and one the blue one. The leader of one is captured and then the middle east goes into a totalitarian government.

    Other references to the "third anti-christ" which many thought was Bin Laden call him "the man from Asia" which makes me wonder, exactly how fucked up is all of this going to be that Nostradamus was so fucking confused.

    No I don't put stock in it or faith in it, but I think all of the coincidences are amusing and watch to see which ones play out.


By patrick on Wednesday, April 3, 2002 - 06:45 pm:

    "On Wednesday, the Israeli military released a detailed list of supplies shipped to Arafat and his entourage that day, including 66 packages of yellow cheese, 55 cans of sardines, 34 cases of mineral water, 145 pounds of coffee and pain killers."




    sounds like a fuckin party? military siege?? BAH!!!!

    Sardines and pain killers? DON'T MIND IF I DO!!!










    id like invite that weeble, Sharon, to suck my ....


    ahh forget it


By Nate on Wednesday, April 3, 2002 - 07:49 pm:

    you can only imagine the character, quality and quantity of plo gas being passed in that room.


By patrick on Wednesday, April 3, 2002 - 07:58 pm:

    i couldnt until you said something fucko.


By eri on Wednesday, April 3, 2002 - 09:26 pm:

    Patrick, I agree with you about Sharon. WTF was Bush thinking backing him (are you in shock yet?)? I can't believe what is going on and the side that the U.S. is taking in all of this. It freaks me out!

    Just give me the coffee and the pain killers!


By patrick on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 11:37 am:

    you know this whole thing makes Bush squirm.

    he wants to call the PLO resistance (Hezbollah, Hamas etc) "terrorists" and does from time to time. However, the "terrorists" aren't looking to advance their cause beyond Palestine, they just want what Israel has taken away, illegitimately.

    The North Vietnamese were no more "terrorists" than the PLO and its various factions.



    Though Im not christian, Im hoping some sort of display of peace, 1000s of christians, jews, arabs etc all descend into Bethlehem, just start walking in front of tanks. Get some balls like Chinese students in Tieneman (sp) Square.


By pez on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 12:33 pm:

    in risk of being completely off-topic:

    drew barrymore plays a teacher who gets fired due to parental censoring at a catholic school and runs outside immediatly to yell "FUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!" and that's about the extent of her part. it has nothing to do with the general plotline.


By Christopher on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 12:55 pm:

    ...But She is the one who introduces the Graham Greene element into the story line. If you haven't read The Destructors


By Christopher on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 12:56 pm:

    ...But She is the one who introduces the Graham Greene element into the story line. If you haven't read The Destructors, take a few minutes, and you should see the context. Other than that, yeah, Drew is not a major player.


By pez on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 01:16 pm:

    oh yeah. i've read it... but i'd forgotten the name of the story.


By Nate on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 01:34 pm:

    they are terrorists because they don't use high tech weapons when they go killing women and children.

    or maybe it's just that they don't use USA made arms?


By patrick on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 01:43 pm:

    i swear though...i've seen pictures of Palestinian militiamen with m-16s...or at least something similar.


By eri on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 03:05 pm:

    I know that wrongs were done on both sides of this one, but I am amazed. I asked my father about this and why is it that the U.S. is supporting Sharon, when even the Pope said that peace needs to be brought to the Palestinians and they need help. He told me it was because we were allies with Israel for so long and they have helped us out so much. That sounds like a load of shit to me, because loyalties are what got us into Vietnam, we wouldn't help out Vietnam when they asked because we were "allies" with France, and then they got help from someone else and we didn't like the fact that they were communists so we went to war against them. This is what comes to mind when I hear we need to back Israel because they are our "allies". I think that the land was taken from the Palestinians wrongly, and that the core and basis of this whole thing is religion. Being a country of freedom of religion, I don't think we should be involved in any war that has anything to do with this kind of religious foundation. There was a reason for our separation of church and state and we should uphold this in foreign affairs as well.

    I know that I don't know too much about international relations, and that I don't know too much about this current fucked up situation. Just expressing thoughts and looking for other thoughts, facts or opinions.


By patrick on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 03:18 pm:

    loyalties didnt get us into Vietnam. Geopolitical positioning did. One big chess game against Communist expansion.

    The Israeli/Palestinian conflict, in my opinion is simply about land and foreign occupation. I don't think its about religion. Israel blew the peaceful coexistance to shreds by invading Lebanon in the early 80s and Palestine in the 6 day war in the 60s.


    We support Israel because they are one of our best customers.






By eri on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 03:45 pm:

    "The Israeli/Palestinian conflict, in my opinion is simply about land and foreign occupation. I don't think its about religion. Israel blew the peaceful coexistance to shreds by invading Lebanon in the early 80s and Palestine in the 6 day war in the 60s."

    I agree with this, but where I think the religion comes in is the "WHY" Israel blew the coexistance. It had something to do with the bible and where Jesus was and who was biologically closest to Jesus or some shit like that. Forgive me, my brain is full right now. I am not thinking as clearly as I should about this topic.

    I also agree with what you said about Vietnam, but am a bit confused by some of it. I agree that it was a big chess game against communist expansion, but I don't understand about the geopolitical positioning. I just know that the reason we didn't help them in the beginning is because they were part of France and the french were our allies, so we wouldn't help them cuz it would cause problems with the french.

    What do you mean by they are one of our best customers (Israel)? That one went over my head.


By Fetidbeaver on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 04:11 pm:

    they buy all of our day old bagels


By patrick on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 04:49 pm:

    Israel interests is a huge and powerful lobby in Washington.

    Israel is also one of our biggest military customers. F-16s, Cobra Attack helicopters right down to the m-16 rifles their soldiers are using, all bought from the US.

    Israel is also one of the most formidable allies, militarily and economically that we have in the region.



    Vietnam was about creating, mainting democracy in Southeast Asia. Im sure its more complicated than Im presenting, but basically it was viewed that if we didn't stop the communist expansion into Vietnam, where would it end.

    The Russian/Afghanistan war.....our involvment was geopolitical position. Assisting the Afghans to keep communism from yet expanding. Same with Korea. More recently revealed documents present this same scenario in Angola






By Cat on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 06:33 pm:

    I just volunteered to go to Israel. They won't take me 'cause I'm out of the loop on the Middle East situation. But still...the idea of some real conflict is quite appealing right now.


By patrick on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 06:40 pm:

    its been established how i feel about hottie journalists on the frontlines.


By heather on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 06:43 pm:

    is it cold in la or what, patrick?


By patrick on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 06:56 pm:

    i never know when you're being ambiguious or not.

    i sense you are, for reasons im too dense to figure out.


    the weather is kinda chilly as of late.








By wisper on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 07:25 pm:

    Drew Barrymore was more useless that
    useless in the movie. Her acting was
    porn-level bad. But she's only got 3 scenes or
    so.
    While watching the deleted parts on the dvd i
    finally snapped on her and screamed "act,
    damn you....ACT!!!" at the tv. Useless.
    I've watched it 5 times now. We go to friend's
    houses and just hand them the tape when
    they answer the door.




    Sparkle Motion.... holy shit.


By Christopher on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 07:45 pm:

    Y'know, I actually had a teacher like her when I was in High School. She was one of those Zaftig late hippy types, Long straight hair, and a slightly flirty attitude. She was definitely anti-mainstream, and was well known for opening her mouth about how the schools administration wasn't corrupt...They were inept. She ended up getting the boot a few years after I graduated. I didn't find much to be offended about as far as her acting was concerned, largely because she wasnt on screen very much, and also because She had her english class read one of Graham Greene's best short stories.

    My favorite english teacher used to have us read all sorts of dark literature. "the lovesong of J Alfred Proofrock", Robert Frost's "Provide, Provide", Ionesco's "Rhinocerous"...
    She was a fading beauty who reveled in portraying herself as a tragic unloved spinster. She wore her hair in a bun, high collar blouses with brooches, and long grey skirts that came down to her ankles. When I think of her, I recall the line "Still waters run deep". She was.


By Spider on Tuesday, January 7, 2003 - 11:10 am:

    I watched this the other night. It was interesting, but not as interesting as I had hoped. I had discovered its promotional website around the time the movie was released, and the website was really well-designed and made you solve puzzles and had other neat features...I expected the movie to be as intriguing and meaty.

    I was excited by the space-time worms, though. That's a feature of a philosophical debate over whether objects are 3-dimensional or 4-dimensional...my roommate took a grad class that concerned that debate and taught me a little about it. You can read about it here...it's very interesting.


By Michiel heystee on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 03:57 pm:

    i wanna see the red heffer in israel before the end of time 2012 21 december mayan time!!!!!


By sarah on Monday, September 6, 2004 - 11:31 pm:


    they've released the director's cut of donnie darko - i'm going to see it on wednesday. it's been a long time since i've seen this flick, and the newest version is getting rave reviews.



By Tresspassers William on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - 12:24 am:

    It's playing up the street. I think I'll go see it Wednesday too.


By Antigone on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - 01:23 am:

    I saw it last week. I actually liked the original better. The director's cut is good, but I thought the original was more emotionally effective.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - 02:50 am:

    It's been so long since I saw the original, I couldn't really compare the two.

    Caught it last night sitting next to a boy at the big old theater in yuppie northwest. I appriciated the extra insight into time travel.


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