does anyone know how to untie a bellybutton?

Not really...why on earth would you want to?

just to see if i can and what happens. heehee! and to be silly!(it's what im best at) ;)

Too bad that is what you are best at....

I used to want to do that when I was 8. Please inform me of what happens so I know what would have happened to me. Actually, I'd suggest looking it up first before your guts all fall out.

my aunt always said that your bottom would fall off. and(heehee!) im not 8,im 17. ill tell you if anything happens. umm...do you have any suggestions on how to go about it?

I suggest using a shrimp fork.

A shrimp fork to untie a bellybutton? I'd never have thought. Hrm. I would've thought that either an alan (allen?) wrench or maybe a very small plumber's snake would work. I suppose a standard screwdriver is right out? I guess I could experiment... where is that cat, anyhow?

heehee! i was thinkin maybe a little needle with the tip dulled-down? but a shrimp fork might work. oh and don't hurt the kitty too much....my cat didn't like it....

the button thing always fucked me up, it's more of a pit.

yeah, i know what you mean! it's a belly-pit....

this is no place for a 17 year old girl.

So where is the place for a 17 year old girl?

Good question. The net is not safe, though

this is a room full of deviant pornographers and illicit fornicators. a 17 year old girl here is a like a 1 1/2 inch porterhouse, lightly seared.

nate, get off it! i can tell where your mind is! grr...! ;)

No, he's serious, and it's true. We're all illicit pornographers and deviant fornicators. So run along to sesamestreet.org until you're old enough and wise enough to understand what goes on here. Ta.

then again, at 17, i was an illicit pornographer & deviant fornicator myself.

Weren't you supposed to have been playing the game, and when you dared, cheating yourself at solitaire?

I had sex with this girl the other night who told me she had just turned 21. she lived with her grandma and didn't look a day out of eleventh grade. I hope she wasn't seventeen. She keeps calling me and I hide when the phone rings. Quite the blowjob artist though.

well shit, i'm glad someone knows where my mind is. someone should tell her how many of us fucked her mom. ah, fuck. this really isn't a place for a 17 year old.

Nate, that was disgusting. We're not all pornographers and fornicators. I'm into global terrorism, insurance fraud, and jaywalking, myself. You know me...always have to separate myself from the crowd.

how old is Crawford, again?

It's ok, he's a boy.

yeah. boys expect you to fuck their mom.

I am not a pornographer

i am ......

Yeah, but you work with Satan.

So, that does not make me satan. I like looking at it (not at work, of course) but I do not make it...... Isn't that what pornographers do?

Yes, but is not a man judged by the company he keeps?

Yes, but I do not keep company with him by choice.

what about 18-year-old-girls (should i run? fast?)?

You can be a porn star

always wanted to be one. where's the camera?

Patrick,that's his department,gotta warn you though,your leaving yourself "wide open".

Send me some test photos Pez. Grab a polaroid, scan it in. a sorabjiite tradition.

oops what did i do this time?

i don't have a scanner. or a polaroid. maybe next time.

Yes, but I do not keep company with him by choice.

huh? did i miss something?

Check your e-mail Nate.

ummm....i started this as just a silly thing, but you guys have taken it in a whole different direction. i think ill just leave you guys alone. not everything has to turn dirty.

Don't worry D. of me, it's nothing personal; all the threads, no matter how silly or how serious their original topics were, eventually devolve into pure tripe.

Most of them eventualy come around to involve bodily functions in one way or another.

Like shit............

gee..umm..thanks i guess. it's just that i don't appreciate nate being so adament(sp) about me leaving.

He is just being his usuall asshole self, just ignore him

Adam Ant? Stand and Deliver...whuh whuh...alllii alliee ewwwwhhh I. anyone know what he says at that part. always baffled me. Adam Ant was the shit back in the day. Thats probably a phrase that someone will add to that thread about phrases they can't stand, Back in the day. I remember thinking as a little kid that Adam Ant probably got a lot of pussy.

nobody appreciates nate. that's part of the problem. you can do what you want D. of ME. i don't care if you stay or not. but this is no place for a 17 year old girl.

Nate I think everyone in here appreciates you more than you know. Remember that time you weren't around for a few days and everyone was freaking out "Where's Nate, Where's Nate?" I think there was even a thread devoted to your disappearance. i personally sort of dig 17 year old girls.

If this isn't a place for 17 year old girls, then is this a place for 16 year old boys? And nate, don't worry, we love you!

sorry, false modesty anyway, it has nothing to do with liking 17 year old girls. nevermind. what is proper and what is actual are two very different things.

Deep down, we're all just 17-year-old girls. except for those of us who aren't. There really isn't a place for 17 year old girls. especially not ones with belly-pit fetishes. GET IN MAH BELLY! right, then. Like that OTHER dashing, talented, insane, prince once said: GET THEE TO A NUNNERY!

Well, at least Jay was honest,I kidna dig them too

all clean!

oh, goodie. now let's go get dirty again? I love this game! like being 5 and playing in the mud, only now we can talk about sex, too... erm. is that an improvement, or not? alrighty, then, trace-who-isn't-satan-and-now-likes-underage-girls. heh. Sorry, man. just funnin' ya. ARG! THERE is a saying I hate.

Just Joshin' ya.

Are you telling me to be a whore or a nun?

whore!!!! Just kidding

hey, that's my line! erm. My dad just died, and my mom is remarrying my uncle. Is that legal?

Okay - First !! Nate- you have NEVER 'fucked' me (as you so lovingly put it) and no one else on this site has.....I really prefer you get off your superior high horse-I am the mother of the 17 yr. old girl that you are telling to get out...Now, I admit that sorabji might not be the IDEAL place for my daughter-but at least she's not in a chat room with someone looking for 'hot, young, horny teen girls'. Of course, i realize that many of you people would probably LIKE to find some girls like that-but at least on sorabji, there usually isn't an exchange of personal names and addresses, etc. D. of Me is a really neat young woman, with her head screwed on a helluva lot better than MINE is. She is sensible, down to earth and practical. She just happens to be silly and likes to have fun, too. Nate, I'm sure that there have been more 17 yr. old girls and younger that you have communicated with on sorabji than you will ever know. I have visited sorabji on and off for 2 yrs., and i feel comfortable with my daughter being on this site. I DID warn her about the cuss words, and frequent dirty talk. She already knows about all that stuff, just like WE did when we were 17. !! If you knew what all this girl has gone through in her short life, you'd know that she is untouched by the crap that some people spew out on these pages. The majority of stuff on this site is extremely creative, imaginative, and thought provoking. It can be fun, too, and really hilarious....You, know, Nate, I think the last time i communicated with you (About 1 1/2 yrs. ago) I was pissed off about something you said. You're really the only one on this site that i've really gotten pissed off at. Strange, huh ?? Well, sorry, if I lost it, at first, but, as I said-she's MY kid !!! And I love her !!!

Well said, mom

oh, and nate, that is just YOUR opinion that you are expressing. Just because YOU don't think it's proper for a 17 yr. old girl to visit sorabji, doesn't make it a fact. To each his own, and, yeh, we're all individuals. You most likely will say that you don't care one way or another, like you usually do...Well, apparently, i do since i'm the one that sounds pissed. Nate, could you please EXPLAIN why a 17 yr. old girl should not drop in here. you guys can't reach out and grab her, and I don't think the sorabjiites dirty talk will freak her out too badly, or scar her. I just reread this thread and it really pisses me off to see that crap you kept writing about 'fucking her mom'!!! DAMN you're crass !!!!

and thank you, Trace !!

Nate, Fuck you, you ass

yeah, you go girl !!!

Hi ME. why don't you come around more? I thought you were nice. Trace, shut up. please shut up.

Why? Could someone please tell me why you all are being such ass holes? I have never seen so many people tell posters on a posting board to shut up. What, exactly, have i done that is worse than this 16 year old boy that keeps telling people "fuck you, you ass"?

I don't know about them, but I'm telling you to shut up because you're being a jerk. you haven't been around here long enough to get such an ego. don't worry. I was probably a jerk too. Patrick was a Huge jerk, but he's developed nicely. I would say he's a pretty good egg, now. there's still hope for you.

Erm, I suppose, as long as you don't intend to put on a play to expose the fact that your uncle murdered your father by pouring poison in his ear. Shall I commit suicide now, or are we not wuite at that act yet? I think I want to be a little crazy first.... Rosemary, for remembrance...

no, no, dad was hit by a truck... and as for remembrance... It's rude to leave before you've finished your business here, y'know. We're not done yet. trace: I've been posting here for an even shorter time than you have, but you're still an asshole.

at this point, Nate, has been here longer than anyone else on this thread. (I think). for some reason, i get pissed about things he says, a lot-but often he posts more insightful thoughts than the majority of people floating around here.Everyone has something valuable to give.

Antithesis, I mean this in the nicest, most sincere way possible. Coming from you, I am very glad you said that. Because, if you did not think I was an asshole, I just don't think I could sleep at night. Also, as Me said, I agree, you, Anti-Everthing, always have something interesting to say.

am i the only one who thinks this me and daughter of me thing is odd?

Oh god, here we go again. I wonder if I am going to be able to add Me and daughter of me as more identities I get blamed of using.........

Uh, Trace, I don't think Bell Jar was accusing you of anything. Me and her daughter must have a good, secure relationship. I know I didn't like it when my brother found this bookmark.

Spider, I was joking. Besides, it isn't bell jar who does the accusing

Granted, we are probably unique and unusual people, perhaps even odd-but, our relationship is healthy and sound. We like to laugh and have a good time, and getting a bunch of people from all over the world stirred up and even discussing us is a good time, and pretty cool !!! (okay, so we don't have a lot of excitement in our lives) (well, SHE might, but i've toned down the excitement in MY life, as i've gotten older (48) and want to be a better example for my kid. Tell me what you think is so odd, Belly Jar-(and I used to be really crazy about Sylvia Plath - til I began acting similar to her, and they put me on Prozac) They tell me i'm much better, now.:) I'm sure i have embarrassed my daughter immensely by jumping all over Nate, and posting all that stuff about her, and i apologize to her....and everyone else. And I really AM much better, now !!!

Me and DofMe are awesome. I know what you mean about disappointed when people found Sorabji...it's like my own secret world is being invaded, and while I don't mind complete strangers, the knowledge that someone I actually know might be reading this...is very odd. I did introduce Anti to Sorabji, and I'm okay with that, but I wonder sometimes who else I know is lurking on the site somewhere. Wierd. Ok. Enough paranoia for now. I miss the riot cops.

Me, you do not have to appoligize for defending your daughter. I think that is great that you do. So many parents these day's let their kids fend for themselves. And they ignore them and don't pay attention to what they are doing. You do things with her and share things with her. Even if it is this twisted bbs. Keep it up, and I hope you get the mother of the year award some day!

Oh, and if someone thinks i was being an asshole, or boring, or insinuating myself in this thread (get off my ass people) then too goddam bad

Hey ME... (whose name holds light with me, for some reason. i never realized you had a problem with me aside from the usual problems everyone has.) "someone should tell her how many of us fucked her mom." is what i said, not that i had. and i never told her to go away. infact, as far as i'm concerned, she passed with flying colors. fuck, every one of us was places we shouldn't have been when 17. that's the point. TRACE, for the record i think you're a fucking moron. you and your milkfed chubby cheeks and down south mental void. (no offense to the intelligent southerners who frequent...)

None taken, honey pie...

Oh Nate, if I just wasn't a delicate southern belle what I wouldn't call you, you varmit you.

1. (one) i believe those are CORN-FED chubby cheeks. 2. (two) that 8/20/00 0110Hrs msg may have been the first time frau pooblitz spelled "intelligence" without using four e's. evolution in action. 3. (three) i own all of your mentally stillborn, ill-begotten, twisted-sister-in-leather-and-fishnet-stretched-out-sagging-asshole moms. any fucking, sucking, licking, dicking, felching, quelching, i ching, feng shui, tau-chi or related illicit cosmodemonic psychosexual activity will incur hourly charges above and beyond the usual monthly rate billed to you sorry-assed point-and-click wanking bitches. direct all complaints to the management. cuz i'm going to fucking sleep. eat glass and prosper. oh yeah... 4. (four) hi J!

oh, blindswine was here. Excuse me while I search for my head and ass. Now, to fasten them back in their precarious places, again...... Nate, I guess that in the past, I have found your crankiness intimidating-yeah, i'm actually a timid soul......but you make up part of the weird personality of sorabji. Also, you're one good-looking S.O.B., and, I suspect, underneath the bitchiness, beats a heart of gold-well, maybe not QUITE gold, but close to it !!

i've only shown one person sorabji, and it was only because i was using his computer for awhile. i would feel very uncomfortable if someone that i knew well frequented here. i wouldn't feel so open about things. what would the neighbors think?

GUESS WHAT,BELL JAR !!! You know the strange, little old lady that lives close to you ?? Your neighbor? THAT'S ME!!!!! and I think you're totally NUTS !!!!! but don't worry, 'cause I AM, TOO !!!! Okay, seriously, folks, my kid and I have a very close relationship....we know MOST of the things in each other's lives, there, of course,are some things that we each choose to keep to ourselves, or share with friends. We really have fun together, and enjoy each other's humor (which is good 'cause not a lot of other people appreciate it!). And what the hell does it matter WHAT the neighbors think ???

ok...now, my turn... Nate: i don't know you, and i don't try to pass judgement on you...i don't know why you suddenly jumped all over me for being 17 and on sorabji. Most 17 yr olds are not all that innocent that this site will shock them...if they are, they must have been locked in the basement most of their lives. I am not going to pass judgement on you, and i hope you choose to do the same for me...oh, and Trace is a sweet,sweet person. Mom-ME: i thank you, and No you did not embarrass me...you made me proud! i love you, and i want you to know that you have never embarrassed me...you are my motherand friend. Trace: you are one of the nicest people i've met on here. and i thank you for chatting with me and my mother, and I don't think you're an idiot or an asshole. i think you're very, very sweet and kind.

Huzzah! Blindswine! I would be VERY irritated if, for instance, my parents lurked here...I don't think I'm going to expose anyone I know to here, at least, just yet...I don't know. If you meet someone worthwhile, then one might be justified in exposing them, a new flow of people is always nice.

I've met quite a few people on this site that have a lot to contribute, and seem to be very interesting...There's Mel, J, Trace, Gee, Isolde, Agatha, Patrick, Nate,(yeah,nate!), Bell Jar, Sheila, Pajama Boy, Petrock, and many that I can't think of right now.....But these are all interesting people that I don't mind my kid talking to.....

I've met quite a few people on this site that have a lot to contribute, and seem to be very interesting...There's Mel, J, Trace, Gee, Isolde, Agatha, Patrick, Nate,(yeah,nate!), Bell Jar, Sheila, Pajama Boy, Petrock, and many that I can't think of right now.....But these are all interesting people that I don't mind my kid talking to.....

excuse my mother...she likes double-talk. anyway, i don't mind my mom being here. she was here first. she suggested i look at sorabji. I don't hide stuff from my mom...it's easier that way. i don't get in trouble, and im abstinent and i don't do drugs. what do i have to hide from her?

Out of curiosity, not that I encourage doing drugs or having wild monkey sex, what made you choose to be abstinent and drug free? (I commend you highly on that, actually. I may not speak for others, but I certainly lost it too early and spent way too much time wacked out on shit when I could have been reading a good book.) I have a couple friends who are Christian and saving themselves for marriage, so the choice of abstinence intrigues me. We argue about it all the time. Anyway. Care to share?

oh, of couse! i choose to be abstinent because i feel that if i have sex now, ill be loosing the greatest gift God has given me...purity. plus, sex complicates everything, and there are WAY too many teen mothers. my hs was the first school in the district to have a nursery...right now i know of 3 teen mothers whom are younger than i. and im just not ready for that kind of thing...people make sex out to be something that is just done everyday, and doesn't make any difference...but i does! if i ever "did the deed" before i was married, i couldn't handle it....you're virginity is a VERY precious thing, and you can't just throw it away on someone you don't truely love or might not even see again. That's why im waiting.

oh, and for any of you cynical people, No i am not just saying this because my mother comes to this site. im serious.

i'm going to leave this one alone because your mother comes to this site. it would make me feel all icky to tell you to go out there and fuck and do drugs. because, you know, purity is over-rated. and Trace may be sweet, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he's a backwards thinking lug. but hurrah, we love free speech. and milk-fed. i maintain that point. chubby cheeks and all. it's nice to know that he thinks i'm 16, though. i've aged three years since RC thought i was 13. fuckit. this is getting mushy. you all fucking suck.

oh, and D. of Me, if i haven't made it clear: you've "passed my tests" "didn't slip through the filter" "floated to the top" "spun but didn't flush" etc. if i had any say, which i don't, you're welcome here. though i think you should change your name. you don't need to stand on your mom's shoulders. .. and i still think you punked out and ran for your mommy.

It's an interesting choice. I'm all for not having teen mothers, and it's good that you look at it that way, I suppose. I'm kind of with Nate in that purity is ovverrated, but then again mine is so sullied I've fogotten what it's like to be pure. So how about it, Sorabjiites? Anyone save themselves for marriage? Good/bad?

fuck marriage. marriage is as goofy and archaic and unnecessary as wearing a suit. agatha wants to get married at bumbershoot by father guido sarducci this year. my first response is, "why fucking bother?" my second: "hmmm, father guido sarducci. gimmicky like a skydive wedding but better than a justice o' the peace." i'm still undecided. it probably won't happen.

I've never understood the convention of marriage either--why buy the cow when I can get the milk for free? There's no point in getting married if I'm going to get divorced in three years anyway--it's cheaper to just move in, be together for a while, and then split up when the time comes. It will, eventually. It seems like a wierd way to express one's love, after all. But...whatever. I remember when I was little I used to plan out these huge elaborate wedding ceremonies. I always wanted to get married somewhere amazing and cool and unique, and then at a certain point I just gave it up. But who knows. Maybe one of these after some party I'll wake up married to some wierd guy. Who knows. I guess I'll have to wait and see, ey?

Dave,do it, do it one time for me.Do it for Agatha,do it for Cleo,do it for humanity.Do it.!!!

marriage is what you make of it.

i love you swine. I think getting married in Vegas by Elvis would be funny. Well maybe it would for me cause i live so far away. You guys probably know a million people who've done it.

I'm saving myself for marriage. what part of myself, I'm not saying. Sex isn't the most important thing... frankly, I wouldn't marry someone I hadn't slept with; sex is a very intimate act, and it can be incredibly telling about someone's personality. There may be a point in anyone's life where they meet /that person/ and decide to get hitched. At this point, it may seem silly and useless, but for whatever reason, love or taxes, it may happen. And Isolde, do you really think you're that impure? I ask this only as a fellow sorabjite and human... I consider myself basically naive in almost every way, despite the stuff I've done to myself and had done to me... Tom Robbins sez: "everybody has a hard luck story." At the mo, I'm not at all into marriage, but that's because I've already had one close call. Hrm. teenage pregnancy. I was only 20 when my daughter was born, and it's been a constant source of weirdness and occasionally strife in my life, but I wouldn't ever take it back; she's one of the bright spots in my life: needless to say (I hope) I love her unconditionally. "Milk for free..." You know a cynic is just a romantic-in-hiding, right? I don't want to be married by Elvis. El Vez, maybe.

Unreal. you folks.....unreal. I find it funny how Nate's offhand comment about this being no place for a 17 year old girl turned into this big situation involving moms and riot cops and cosmodemonic psychosexual activity. I mean jesus christ, run and get your mom cause of something someone said on an internet bulletin board? whaaaaaaaaah. Don't you see how doing that just supports Nate's comment? I have movie theaters and McDonalds and bowling alleys and motherfucking Chevrolet dealerships but I obviously live in a different world than you people. A to the motherfucking K homeboy, A to the motherfucking K.

you obviously missed out on the "glory days" of sorabji.com.

I got to quit posting when I'm tanked.

At one point I thought I was abstaining, but in reality, the opportunity just wasn't there. I took the first one I got, which was a mistake. But failing to abstain wasn't so much of a mistake as failing to run like the devil from this woman. I'm in a wonderful sexual relationship now and will probably stay with this woman for the rest of my life. I think there's something to be said for making a commitment to someone... I mean, don't stick it out if you decide you hate them, but every relationship has problems. The highly traditional ceremonies I've been seeing lately in part of my family (3 step-brothers got married in a 4-month span of time) are just annoying though. I'll probably get married, but throwing flowers, feeding each other cake and otherwise being cute and adorable whatnot... bleh. We've talked about D o' M's choice to abstain from sex, but how about the drugs? How many sorabjiites are drugless? How about Alcohol? I partake of neither and just compensate with sex. Works out pretty well.

So when exactly were the glory days of sorabji.com, Nate? TBone -- I drink, but no drugs.

I drink and do drugs,it's the best way I can help myself.As for Nate...what can I say? One minute you want to shove hotdogs up his ass,the next minute,your sending him pictures of your ass,go figure.

ok, first off...i didn't "go running to Mommy" she saw all of this crap and commented on her own. second...the only reason i chose the name "D. of me" is because i thought i might meet some nice people who would recognize the name and we could chat a little. Third...Nate i don't care how long you've been here, and i don't appreciate you feeling you had to put me "to the test".

Ooh, young AND spunky.

Do not be insulted by the test... simply tell yourself: "there IS no test." Holy Matrix, Batman!

i could give a shit. i put everyone to the test. now you're failing.

So these two 17 year olds walk into a bar, which is really stupid because the second one should've seen it and ducked.

Jay, you're a riot. Where is that story you were going to post?

what the fuck are you people talking about? jesus age christ, who takes nate seriously ANYTIME? Please raise your hands? I personally think its a little weird having mom and daughter on hera the same time, it would seem to be slightly inhibiting. I've been here over a year and I don't remeber the daugher or mother and could care less as you are just a digit on my my screen. Also, I am not in the role model business, so Mom, i make no apologies for the depictions of my lifestyle on sorabji. D of Me, the one slight disadvantage your age may have afforded you is the level of sarcasm, and bullshit of which nate talks and other for that matter. There is no "test", there is a level of irony in the dialog.......its a little hard to explain, but to feel pressure, irrtability or even threatened from nate's test is akin to be scared by the boogieman, or going on a snipe hunt. it can be a genuine emotion, but in reality its based on nothing.

That's Jesus H. Christ to you, mister.

is it? sorry bout that. Pronounciation was a little difficult when mom was whipping me

Yeah, the mom/daughter thing is getting a little incestuous for my taste. Maybe if she renames her alias, that'd take away some of the weirdness.

What are y'all talking about?It's sure not my ass.I sent my ass to Nate,not a comment did I hear,I never said it was pretty,but I thought that fart in my crack was pretty clever.You all are wasting mental energy when you could be worshipping my ass.You could rub it like Buddah,yea that's the ticket,and don't even say it looks like my face.

i wanna see Js ass...come on nate, post it!

We could all rub it like Buddha's tummy? I like the sound of that.

I think we should do a critical comparison of me's and D. of me's asses. me could post pix of her ass both from when she was d. of me's age and at her current age, showing d. of me what she has to look forward to. Baby pix of both asses would be cute too.

uh i've seen J's ass now. no plumbing.

could you see her kidneys?

Woah. Enough ass. I'm not saving any part of me for marriage, because I'm never getting married. And frankly, I'm not skimping out on anything fun just to wait for a little hunk o' gold. Just to clarify, I did not bear Antithesis' child. Marriage is a peculiar institution. Unfortunately, unlike slavery, we are not going to fight a war to abolish it. This war is being fought soley in the confines of the nation's bedrooms, it would appear. Actually, I don't think it should be abolished. I just wish that my mother's family sucked less and gave me more money. Go figure. Maybe we should give up on taking naked pictures and just send in ass shots? That way we could get DOM without it being illegal? And Crawford too...

Speaking of marriage....my divorce was final today at 9:30 am!!!!! Free, Free At Last! And saying marriage is what you make of it, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. You can work your ass off to make it great, but if the other person is selfish....it's all in vain.

FB, I know I have not been around that often lately, but wtf? What happened?

Pamela, check your other thread.

k

Pam,did you have your baby?

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ok...anyway...i find this whole thing unusual, and sadly i think that's why i keep coming back. and no, no one will see my ass or my mothers'....that's completely sick! Oh, and i am learning not to take nate too seriously. he's just too damn annoying...;)

fuck you, you ass. sorabji-san, swine-san: i wish i could get to my email account. i'm firewalled. perhaps the door should be closed.

huh. i'm not firewalled. but i can't figure out how to read the mail. i can see that it is there though. not firewalled. stupid. i set it to forward. this problem should not be of consequence in the future.

I take it The Kid isn't going to worship my ass.

nope. and i'm not gonna either. you can worship mine if you like.

I worship your ass, oh Pez God

:sits in a graceful hindu-goddess-like pose, with arms waving and doing the neck thing, legs crossed with feet on thighs. calm: i will answer prayers presented in the form of worshipful incantations. along with the sacrificial orange or cucumber, of course

I've been worshipping J's ass since day one. She is truly a goddess. *and the kid's whole purity comment makes the shit curdle in my ass. It's attitudes like that why I can't get laid (well, not as much as i'd like to).* Seriously, just because some book or guy in a black suit tells you something, don't mean it's true. I just witnessed a traditional marriage and thought it was the worst, fakest, patriarchal bullshit I ever saw, and there's no way in hell that i am having a wedding like that. Assuming I'm lucky enough to ever get married in the first place. The whole reception is the worst. People feel like you have to have a "wedding dj" and rent a hall and play the stupidest music. Not a lick of Stevie Wonder. Fucking honkies. (side note: I found it interesting to observe the maternal defense mechanism even works online. Me... came out like a bengal tiger, w/o realizing that what nate was saying is the same stuff he's been saying for the last 2 years she's been reading this poop. I mean, she knew nate was here, and she knew that the rest of us jerks were here. If it's ok with her for D. of Me to post, then let her take her licks like the rest of us.) (side note on the side note: I think Me... must now be the first person to post here who is officially owned by swine, as he owns all our mothers. D. of me is one of us, so ergo, swine owns her mom, who is Me...) (completely unrelated footnote; Just to help along D. of me, and to avoid claw marks down my chest, I have started to bracket my sarcastic/non-serious comments with asterisks.)

at this rate, the next gift i ever get from a guy would be a chastity belt. i wouldn't want to have a real wedding. too much confusion. i'd rather just be married at a courthouse and have a little party afterwards. nothing fancy. i'd wear jeans and watch my mother go nuts. she's a little over-protective.

umm...thank you semillama. and nate....no thanks. ;) and just a question, why are you all so facinated by mom and I? im just wondering, and im not wanting to start and argument....*hint,hint nate* actually, to be truthful...my mom did warn me about nate...heehee! completely off the subject: my new name is to be taken with a little bit of sarcasm...

*arrives wearing a big shiny badge* I'll decide what's to be taken with sarcasm around here, lil' lady. Let these punks start makin' their own rules and we'll ALL be worshipping asses. other than Isolde's. *sigh*

I can't really explain my fascination for you both, it could be because I wasn't breast fed as a child. (This is to be taken with a little bit of sarcasm) If and when I get married it will have to be in a buddhist ceremony on a flower-decked beach in Thailand (Krabi..the most beautiful place on Earth). No shoes. No cloying relatives. No DJ. But lots of drunken speeches and some poetry. And there would have to be a feast afterwards....actually maybe even days of feasting and revelling.

What is _that_ supposed to mean, post-from-work boy? I'll tell you what, dbone-if you can get Elvis to officiate, I'll marry you.

try and be honest, and see where it gets me? I've just gotten in trouble for telling the woman of my dreams that her ass is worthy of worship. time for that mantra again: Women are evil, men are dumb... I don't get it.

ah. The way you worded it, it sounded like my ass was the only ass not worthy of worship...and that's no good.

heeheee!

Who giveth this woman's ass to be worshipped? And do you Isolde, do you promise to love, honour and worship Antithesis' ass for the rest of this thread? You may now kiss his ass.

*eyebrow* You mean, if I want to continue on this thread, I have to kiss antithesis's ass? can I defer that to some other body part, or only his ass?

fuck all of you, all you asses. worship no ass. asses are for whoreshiping. i'm glad people feel the need to warn their children about me. i experience a full range of human emotion directed at me here. i'm like that exotic fruit that some people love and some people hate. except that i'm neither exotic nor a fruit, and the people who love me are probably just showing off. the scary thing is that sorabji-nate is slowly leeching into reality. i think it comes down to a tolerance level. how much shit i'll put up with before i say something. obviously, i only put up with friendly shit here. it's all shit. but in the real world, i'll put up with a load of stupidity before i say something. and even then, when i say something, i feel embarassed for letting it slip out into reality. i hate reality. it is my biggest fiction. it blocks you from actuality. anyway, more and more i find myself slipping sorabji-nate into the real world. being cold, quick to judge, quick to dispatch. i find myself leading on stupid people, feeding and watering their delusions until they grow into monster methods of imbecility that clash viciously with conflicting mutant methods i've bred in others in to-the-death cockfights of human ego where i am the only spectator wagering on the outcome. i find that i can demolish a person in the eyes of others by simply flexing my stature. wtf. i could go the way of the american: i am the victim here, people. you made me. no human should have such power. but fuck it. i like it. and i can see that eventually it will bite my ass. which is not worth worship.

Well said. I find that my Sorabji persona spills over into real life too...but I don't think it's as noticeable as it might be with you. I do find myself making fun of my coworkers more often, though. I can't figure out if they've gotten stupider or if I've gotten less tolerant.

and these are all good things?

depends. right now i'm in a good mood. listening to bt, don't'cha know. women ARE evil. me, for instance. maybe. "these boots are made for walking, and so that's what they'll do, so one day i'll take these boots and walk all over you." anyone want to be my loveslave?

I'm going to interrupt because what I have to say is really the most important thing. my first CD in the Captain Tractor box set, Hoserista, came to me today. Hoorah! My life is finally coming together! Brock loves me. I can feel it.

wow, nate. that's one of the most thought-provoking things I've seen here in days. so you've gotten more evil, or rather, the evil side in you has crept out first online and then into the real world. or you could be delusionally overestimating your capabilities. I mean, why else would you prey on the dumb with nothing at stake? I mean, anyone with real confidence in his manipulative abilities would use them not just for entertainment, but also to reward and punish those who please and hurt him, and to move upward to. . . yes, I am saying all this into your left ear while standing on your shoulder in a red cloak, holding a pitchfork. I dunno. I just read a book oh hell nobody's going to read it if I post in Last Book You've Read so I'll write about it here. Syrup, by Maxx Barry. Catchy, ain't it? Devestatingly beautiful girl on the cover (not to insult the looks of the guy on the cover, but damn), bright orange paperback, LA, y'know, all that. Sorry, I'm really not trying to be incomprehensible. OK, so for all its trendiness, there are no raves or hackers or trips to tibet. It's all a lot of LA-style power plays and sharp dialogue and detachment, embodied in 6, the girl on the cover. She's the top manipulative person in the book. The thing that weirded me out is that the author's depiction of her is only slightly more forgiving than Steinbeck's portrayal of Kate in East of Eden. I mean, in here she's not vindictive and smiles once and has a (tiny) human moment at the end, but still, she's usually a soulless monster out to use people for her own ends. I dunno. I really don't know any competitive/aggressive people like them, prolly because in my field the only real way to get ahead is just doing better work. I'm rambling, but I do want to know more about your experiences w/ the dark side, nate oh yeah, the book. good writing, I must admit, no abuse of cliches and well-developed character. I usually read older stuff, so books with cell phones and cars and no philosophical discourses aren't my specialty, but hey, it's only $12, read for yourself.

Very deep Nate, indeedy do. Thank Buddha you mentioned ass several times tho, it made me feel the universe hadn't taken a total twist. Deep-Nate is good and I quite like shallow-flirtable-Nate. Not love. Not hate. Sorry to blast the cumquat kiwi fruit idea away. I was talking to another Sorabjite about this tendency to be more bitchy and snarly on the boards. But we were undecided whether it was because posting is an outlet for aggression or if it was just a more honest form of communication.

Honest, for sure. I've said a lot of things here that I would probably not air out in front of my friends, except for a select trusted few. I think that it is easy to be honest here because there is the least soical risk. No big threat of rejection and if you are rejected, so what, there are plenty of other BBS's out there. There truly is something for everyone. plus, no one is looking at you. No one can really dominate or intimidate with their physical presence, which I think plays a lot into what we say or do in the physical world. AS far as being bitchy and snarly, sometimes that's the truth, and being all nice and sweet when you're feeling otherwise is dishonest. Sometimes dishonesty is the best social strategy, but I think that there is little to gain by it on the web, whereas the catharsis of honesty without retributions on the web is probably very good for mental well-being. ok, I should really shut up and go work now.

wait a second, i never said i am evil. sexyfine ladies get laid when they want, are they evil? it all depends on your perspective, and the subjectivity of evil is another topic entirely. suffice to say, no one thinks of themself as evil. there is nothing between love and hate, it is all degrees of the same. i wish i was overestimating my ability. that would be a grand comedy. a study was done that showed that stupid people are ignorant of even this. they feel they are ultimately competant. i've seen this in action. but i've had enough experience to know that I am not a stupid person. you can only get smacked so many times in the face before you start instictively dodging the raised palm. my modesty is being shot to hell. i think that may be the root of impatience. the more people i experience, the more i solidify my place in the heavens. i am a bastard.

nate you are the type of person im afraid of...just kidding(somewhat).

Once again, I find myself agreeing with Nate. You are a bastard!

"fuck you, you ass"

Yah, I was a little worried by the idea that Nate is evil. Bastardly, perverted, maybe. But not evil. I wish my sorabji persona would leak out more. I'm even more of a loser in the real world. There's something about the detachment of the internet that allows me to be at least a little more creative and unihibited than in real life. Maybe it's because I can't see your pained expressions from here. I think Sorabji-Nate's honesty (and bastardry) was one of the main reasons I became so fascinated by this place.

You guys are just fanning the flames of his ego. You know that he's checking back here every 5 minutes to gather up his kudos and see who's posting what about him.

He is not evil.

when did we depart from the subject of nate's ass? don't let him fool you with his crockery, he loves the attention. hey Kid, i suspect all of this attention was put on you due to the shiyat you and yur mum stirred up way up there............you asked for it....... its hard for me to gauge my sorabji persona vs. my reality persona, i have yet to meet a sorabjite, i have only talked to two on the phone, J and nate....... i'd be interested to find out. im kinda modest, as I would rather be underestimated than overestimated in lighter news, i think i may have a photo gig shooting stills on the set of a documentary of porn fluffers.........doesnt get any better than that

um...yeah, i guess i did kinda ask for it...oh well, it was kinda fun. i know i haven't been on here long, but so far i see no difference in myself...probably because im the same on here as i am in reality...hummm. *look of deep concideration* oh, and i know my spelling sucks...it's the damn education system. ;)

waitwaitwait. Can we get back to the part about Pez needing a love slave?

yes? is someone talking about me? yes, a loveslave would be nice. someone alive purely to succumb to my feminine charms. i'd probably get tired of him after awhile and have to trade him in. hmmm..."if hummingbirds were as big as ravens, it probably wouldn't be safe to go for a walk on the woods." direct quote from smithsonian. interesting. auditions to be my loveslave start now!

What do you want me to do, oh my master pez...

this is just too weird, but strangely funny...in a sick way.

just a second, i need to get some videotape so i can analyze ever microsecond of the action.

pez, a whole mess of us are going to make a pilgrimage to your pad to fuck your brains out. with your permission, of course.

I'm putting on my walking shoes...

is it me...or is something terribly wrong here? I don't feel good all of a sudden.

Yer all a bunch of savages.

we're going to fuck you, too.

Hey leave me out of the male fucking thing, ok????

Why is it that so many married men turn into sleaze monsters online? Are they like that in "real life" and I just don't come across them as often as I do online? Or are they just little chicken shits who can finally act out their stud fantasies online? And when we're online, is it OK to adopt a different moral code?

cat i have noticed that many times and wondered about it myself. i think that people will do whatever they think they can get away with if it's anonymous, or in this case, nearly anonymous. especially if they're raging fucking idiots.

And some of us can't tell the difference betweeen fantasy and reality.

i talk to much, share too many secrets to do anything foolish online, I couldnt get away with anything even if i wanted to.

I tell my wife about everything I post here. It is like I can't help it

ok, forget nate being scary( he still is though), you're all psycho!

Trace, I was planning on leaving you out of it, but now that you've reaffirmed your *insert insult here* in my eyes, well, bend over, buddy. Sorry, Pez. I'll be there 'soon as I'm finished. Do I need a sign? *not married. Sleazy anyhow. Deal or run away.* What counts as sleazy, really? Trace, in all seriousness, that "fantasy vs. reality" post made me think. Are you a gamer? Honestly, I think I'm more "me" online than in real life. Like Sem said, there's much less chance of rejection here. Then again, if I try hard enough, I can always find a rejection: like this: Isolde, dear, light of my life, etc.: Can we go help them fuck Pez's brains out? Please? *grin*

Gamer????

Maybe it is more of "me" that comes out online. I dunno. I just know that I could/would never cheat on my wife in real life.

I didn't mean evil like morally corrupt. Sorry, I guess years of hollywood villians with impeccable skills in manipulation and diplomacy made me confuse these skills with evil. Nate, of course, is just having fun, neither good nor evil. I suppose one can manipulate people for "good" purposes, but I can't think of an example right now, prolly b/c nobody ever finds out/complains when such a thing happens. What Nate does or claims to do is in no way against my moral code, maybe I'm just jealous that he gets away with it.

it pisses me off, personally.

I might scare them, love. I'm a bastard. Genuine born-out-o-wedlock with God knows how many damn half siblings running around, all by different women. Also, because I looked in Antithesis' fridge, I'm a vegan now too.

umm....can i look at someone's ass too?

I am wondering just what the hell is in anti's fridge....

im joking, of course, im too innocent for that. ;)

hey, kid, who's more innocent, you or me? i'm known as the innocent at work. i'm the youngest shoe girl. several people have been warned to watch their eyes and mouths around me. i don't fuckin' care. not my fault that my parents are overprotective puritains.

Contents of Anti's fridge: (y'all saw this coming, didn't you?) 2 cartons of eggs, dated June 24 and July 5, respectively. One Brita filter and pitcher. One beer (Wienhards). One bowl of leftover Isolde pasta, uncovered and getting rubbery. 2 items of 3-week-old leftover from an italian restaurant. Collins mix. various condiments. Some very funky lettuce. and a huge helpin' of ASS. and this isn't any regular ass. this is top-quality, high-grade, south of the border ASS. What's more, this ass has already been approved by our crack team of ass testers, and THIS ASS HAS BEEN JUDGED SUITABLE for viewing by the general public, including minors. So, Kid, Pez, c'mon over and get your free ASS. From us, the good ASS guys!

All this talk about ass is making me need to take a shit.

heehee! im innocent in what i do....not in what i think. out of my friends, my mind is the dirtiest.

too bad it is just what you think...

::shakes head:: It's 11:30, I'm still in my pjamas (i won't even TRY to spell it right), haven't showered, shaved, or eaten breakfeast...sigh. I think someone needs a good smacking.

Well, I'm still in my bathrobe. Yesterday I didn't change into real clothes until 4:30.

haha! that's quality. If I'm not doing anything today, then I'm going to stay like this as long as possible.

i got up at 5am and went to work. you fucking lazy ass bitches.

Thank you, nate. I take pride in my laziness. I also got 3 hours of sleep the night previous, so I slept late today.

zephyr- stay in your jammies all day if you want. build a fort. eat popcorn!

Huzzah! I ate some popcorn earlier...it was low fat stuff, so it was icky. I used to make forts. that was fun. out of chairs, blankets, and couch pillows. gollity-gee. Thanks, Mavis, for the inspiration!

fuck all of you, its 9:30 am, im in this god forsaken office, some prick of a customer wants to come over and visit, my head is pounding, god damn birthdays, god damn makers mark, god damn GOD DAMN! eat a dick all of you love waffles

Whose dick? And I'm not at work because my mom didn't want to drive me to my dad's office (she went antique-ing instead) and my dads in georgia, so he didnt go to the office today. Oh. I forgot to mention that I got forced to work for him again, despite the fact that I was fired from this non-pay job a while before because my parents dislike me and my morals/personality. Neither the toy store or the ice cream store have responded to my job applications yet. Asses.

patrick, please don't say bad things about maker's mark......i'll have to punish you...

Patrick, Maybe you should consider a new job? That one does not sound too healthy for you?

Sounds like he tied one on to me.

get them to fire you. it's easy! just climb up on your desk and do a strip dance to the strains of the hokey pokey (holding a bottle of alcohol and being unshaven would help). sorry.

i love makers mark what are you talking about? obviously cause im in pain. "you never fuck me and i always have to drive" story of my life

shit. as long as someone else is saying that, you're ok. god damn, i'll have to bourbon this weekend. i havent' been high in over a month.

no, someone isnt, it is a quote from a movie, but im saying it now

weird....

I can say the same thing

mala noche!

As long as it wasn't Ten High, you should be alright. If you're drinking to forget, that's the stuff. It'll make you forget whole days!

i just bought a pickup truck. i went with my buddy because he wanted to test drive BMWs. i'm a fucking retard.

i was at this rich assed cinematographers house over the weekend, great guym, talented music video person, makes big bank, he was showing me a brochure for his v-12, Astin Martin Coupe convertable he is getting.......those things are like works of art.......jesus age christ its gotta be nice to be handsome, single, artistic, and filthy god damn rich. he showed me his cameras, i took off all of my clothes and jumped in his pool, it was 2am, every one applauded my bravado.

oh my gawd! heehee! ;p

I was going to eat a dick last night, but someone walked in on me. I've been calling anti a penis-chewer for the past two days. I don't know why. He just is. I got up five minutes before I had to go to work and propelled myself out of bed. I'm supposed to have dinner with a swiss/greek hottie tommorrow night, but instead I'm seeing a movie with the boy who walked in on us, and then attending my goodbye party and getting raging drunk. Drunken ramblings, be warned--you have approx. 30 hours to gear yourselves!

(ref: sexual encounters thread)