For a long while I have been searching for bulletin boards and chat rooms where people with MS and their care givers can exchange ideas. Below are a number of sites which have either bulletin boards and/or chat rooms specifically for MS patients and their care givers. http://www.msworld.org http://www.msaa.com http://www.msmoms.com http://venus.beseen.com http://www.geocities.com/klinks_html//ms http://www.mswatch.com http://www.mscentralsupport.com None of the above sites are nearly as fun or as free spirited as sorabji land. But, they do provide a valuable service.

when i had a flea market stall a few years back, there was a guy who'd come in every so often who had MS. he'd come in with son, who was about 9 or so. he walked with a cane, the guy, and he was really thin and had a rubbery way of walking. that's the only way i can describe it. his whole body had a rubbery quality to it and he took long strides when he walked and dipped a little with each one. if you just saw him from the waist up while he walked (like from the other side of one of the low partitions that separated one aisle from another) he would bob up and down as he went along. i'd say "hi" and he'd say "hi" and sometimes he'd buy something from me. then one day he sat down with me at my stand and asked me about being in a wheelchair. his MS had progressed far enough that he was going to be a candidate for one pretty soon. i tried to be as positive about being in a chair as i could realistically be. then one day he came by and said his insurance company wouldn't pay for a wheelchair because he had a "pre-existing condition." my manual wheelchair was about $1500, i think; he was going to need an electric one, so that's probably going to be in the $2000 range or more for all i know. or way more. i gave him as many ideas as i could come up with. i never saw him again after that. you have an MS patient in your life, the watcher?

my grandmother got a hospital bed [paid for by insurance] when my grandfather's alzheimers progressed. he died ten years ago. when she tried to send it back they said that it had already been paid for and no one came to get it. she doesn't use it but she still has it. the swing/bar/sling thingy is pretty fun.

I can see you in that with a big grin on your face, although I am uncertainthat I ever saw a big grin on your face. Y'know, sorabjifest was a GOOD idea, and I still think of it as a high point 0f '01. way to change the subject, sem, you drunk fuck. hee. we need to get toghether (us in general) and fart around more, I especially think that a carload containing me, Heather, Nate and Sarah in particular, bopping down Woodward Avenue in Detroit with Sly and the Family Stone on the radio,ona bright sunny spring day in May, that would be pretty damn cool.

nate definitely needs some 'detroit appreciation' introduction

yes, please, start anytime.

I think Watcher had mentioned his wife has M.S.

could i see a red wings game if it isnt sold out for the 1000th time in a row? motherfuckers sell out here too. I cant get tix to the april redwing/king game. fucking sellouts

You are absolutly correct J. My wife does have MS.

I'm sorry to hear that Watcher.

We all have our crosses to bare. I support her. And, she has the disease.

Just thought I'd activate this thread for anyone new.

one of my best friends has MS. he doesn't talk about it much, but I visited a few of those sites after he told me.