my wednesday plans


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THIS IS A READ-ONLY ARCHIVE FROM THE SORABJI.COM MESSAGE BOARDS (1995-2016).

By bell_jar on Saturday, September 7, 2002 - 08:19 pm:

    i feel just as lost about what i'm going to do this year as
    i did when i was roaming the streets of new york alone
    last year. there are all of these memorials that will be
    taking place, but i don't want to go alone... and i don't
    want to go with others.

    it's hard being apart of something so large and feeling
    like no one else understands. i don't hate middle
    eastern men. i don't even really hate terrorists. i don't
    want a war. i can't waive a flag. rudy is still a nazi
    bastard. and, i refuse to join a socialist cult just to share
    a few beliefs.

    i'm at a loss.


By dave. on Saturday, September 7, 2002 - 08:49 pm:

    maybe that's your own pain that you can celebrate. just be careful about who you share those feelings with. surely you aren't alone. it'll be over soon.

    the human horror didn't end there. it continues in afghanistan and iraq. life for life, i'm sure we're 'ahead' at this point. lives are extinguished, bank accounts are enriched. . .

    that's what wednesday is all about for me.


By moonit on Sunday, September 8, 2002 - 06:05 am:

    Wednesday for me will be about rembering someone who I thought I was going to marry. Its been five years since Darcy died. Of course I'm a day ahead of you, so I'll be thinking of the families of the lives lost from the WTC etc on Thursday.

    There was part one of a doco about the survivors on last Thursday. It really upset me. I might be on the other side of the world, but I still have empathy.


By semillama on Sunday, September 8, 2002 - 12:48 pm:

    Wednesday will about ignoring the mass media. I'll come here and that's about it. No TV, no NPR.
    No propaganda. This is going to be all about propaganda for the War on Everybody.


By I.P. Freely on Sunday, September 8, 2002 - 01:28 pm:

    Propaganda for World War 3


By pez on Sunday, September 8, 2002 - 03:47 pm:

    i think it'll be a good day to be quiet and make masks.


By bell_jar on Sunday, September 8, 2002 - 05:26 pm:

    i'm thinking about going to my old job- walking out of
    the same subway at a few minutes to nine. walking
    over to the steps of the INS building and looking up at
    where they used to be.

    i didn't look up at them that morning i walked into my
    building listening to this guy explain to me how people
    were going to try and blame it on terrorists, but he knew
    that it was just a freak accident. i didn't get to see his
    face or hear his theory when our building was shaking
    from the second plane hitting.

    maybe i'll go upstairs and visit my old friends... then
    maybe i'll walk uptown and remember walking uptown
    with thousands of other people. then i'll go to the
    hospital and try to donate blood and be refused and
    then i'll buy an orange gatorate and m&ms to help me
    through the next few hours of sitting in a park and
    wondering what to do.

    i don't know if i ever told you guys this, but i was
    touched that you called me.


By Hal on Sunday, September 8, 2002 - 07:12 pm:

    I was worried... I know it was probably pretty freaky and all... It seemed so for me....

    But I guess when I called I did it simply because I had to know if you were all right. I tried getting ahold of swine's # but never was able to.


By Antigone on Sunday, September 8, 2002 - 08:21 pm:

    hey, bell_jar, want to see Opie? He would
    probably like some company, too.


By patrick on Monday, September 9, 2002 - 12:36 pm:

    its sweeps week people. Turn off your televisions. (the weeks at the beginning of each television season that they tally viewers for advertising numbers. each network puts out its best and brightest to get the most viewers, so they can boast to lure advertisers)


    with all the bullshit and the media hype, it seems like they planned it this way


By J on Monday, September 9, 2002 - 01:36 pm:

    Actually,I wish all you sorabjites that live in New York city would go out of town for a few days, the F.B.I. has reported a stream of information coming in about a round of new attacks planned in Washington and New York City.


By Dougie on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 09:47 am:

    Thanks for the concern J, but I'll just be doing my usual routine. I'm trying to get my fiancee to call in sick tomorrow (she works in midtown Manhattan) but she won't. Definitely no tv tomorrow. I think we'll just spend the evening outside in the back yard with a nice bottle of wine (or two), lights off, just enjoying the sounds of the night, the breeze, and being thankful for all we're blessed with.

    I don't know, since last year, I've just had this general malaise which I can't quite define -- not depression really, but just a kind of world-weariness and lethargy, a different kind of sadness than when my wife passed, but a sadness nonetheless -- broader and and not directed at any one thing or reason. See, I told you I couldn't define it. Anybody else kind of feeling that way?


By kazoo on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 09:56 am:

    Dougie, I know exactly what you mean.


By Spider on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 10:18 am:

    Yep. I thought it was just me.


By J on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 11:21 am:

    Me too,even before my mother passed away,like a little piece of me died,like a scar on your heart.


By patrick on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 11:52 am:

    i can't help but feel more and more cynical, that all those people died for nothing....that they all died so Cheney, the war-mongering cocksucking assbucket could expand, indirectly Halliburton contracts in oil infrastructure in Iraq.

    Im definitely a more angry person.

    Seriously...if it were just me and Cheney in a room alone...id find the envelope for the heart condition of his and rip it open.

    Actually, id probably spend a few months in jail just to get my hands around his throat even for five seconds while Secret Service pulls me off.


By semillama on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 12:52 pm:

    Is it wise to threaten a Veep with no respect
    for Constitutional rights on a publicly
    accessible message board?

    Hope they don't come for you.


By patrick on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 12:59 pm:

    There's no threat there. Let em come.

    instead of just reflecting on just the loss of life and subsequent retribution, reflect on the subsequent losses we have suffered AFTER 9/11.

    Think of everything that has been taken away subsequently and tell me WHY arent we in the streets? As far as Im concerned, what Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft and Tom Ridge have done subsequently is just as criminal as what the terrorists did a year ago.



By The Watcher on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 01:20 pm:

    I'll go to work as usual.

    Who knows with any luck I might actually make it in on time. Right!! I'll still feel just as miserable as I do every morning.

    I will most likely avoid all the memorial services they have planned!!!

    I'm still mad as all hell at the terrorists.

    And, the losses of so many souls depress me.


By Antigone on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 03:45 pm:

    Patrick, don't give anyone ammo to use against you. These pages are probably going to be thoroughly scanned when I interview with the NSA in a few years.


By patrick on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 04:09 pm:

    hopefully, in a few years, Cheney will be gone. \

    im not worried.

    if they come for me because i despise our vice president enough to make a comment about wanting to kick his ass, but Im clearly too pussy (and smart) to actually do anything about it i expect you all to commence a huge protest ala Mumia style.


By dave. on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 05:38 pm:

    cheney will be around forever unless you, patrick, do something to stop him.


By semillama on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 06:08 pm:

    We'll have a benefit album for ya. Eddie
    Vedder will be on it.


By Skooter on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:40 am:

    Relishing the idea of the NSA reading "Fuck
    you, you ass!" over and over, and over....


By dave. on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:52 am:

    encrypted subliminal coersive message follows:

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    good luck, comrades.


By dave. on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:54 pm:

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    boo!


By Dougie on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:43 am:

    Too windy to sit outside last night. Had gusts up to 50 mph, remnants of Gustav. Had to chop up a huge branch that had fallen from my neighbor's maple into my back yard. We rented Mothman Prophecies to escape from the insane 9/11 media frenzy. I enjoyed it.


By Spider on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:11 am:

    Did anyone watch the program on the air traffic controllers on NBC?

    I did.


By Spider on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 11:26 am:

    Furthermore, I was surprised to find myself crying at times. I know that sick feeling of anxiety/helplessness/fear/responsibility for others/doubt in your abilities/WTF is going on....so imagining that magnified to the scale they were on was pretty shaking.

    And I was *really* impressed that they got 5000+ planes out of the skies in 2.5 hours, without a single error.

    As much as I hate sensationalism, and the media, I was glad that there has been so much coverage, and from so many perspectives. When you study past wars and such, you have to dig and dig to find out how such and such a group experienced X event, from their perspective.....you know, "what did Northern farmers' wives go through during the Civil War?" But now, you're learning about it as it happens....the farmers' wives are being interviewed on TV. It's like a history thesis paper enfolding in front of you.


By patrick on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 11:46 am:

    I watched about 5 minutes of that ninny Ashleigh Bancroft...she jerked a tear from me in about 3 minutes. Fucking bitch.

    The winds, at all three locations, though rationally explained, represented something greater to me.

    What ultimately jerked a salty one was the image of a mother, holding her 2-3 year old son, lollipop in one hand, flag in the other, at the WTC site.


    I think it was coming. I remembered how I felt last year. Combined with everything that has happened this year. You can be positive, retribution has been served up in terms of innocent Afghan lives, on top of the liberties denied here.

    Its the futility and the failures of the leaders that be that get me the most.


By patrick on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:49 pm:

    in other news....

    the new Afghan emerges
    http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020912/capt.1031800327.afghanistan_cannabis_harvest_xmk103.jpg

    About a month and a half ago, getting off a red eye from NYC and going straight to a party, i found myself being introduced to a breed of weed called "Afghan Koush" (sp?). One hit and my body tingled.

    If this is the new cash crop from Afghanistan...if the cycle will continue and the "War on Drugs" will replace the "War on Terrorism" in Afghanistan, i welcome it, because its some funky shit they grow over there.


By Gee on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 02:57 pm:

    who/what's Mumia? one a wall at the school a few years ago someone painted FREE MUMIA and everytime I walk by it I say "yay! Free Mumia! So much better than that stuff you have to pay for!"

    I know, I'm stupid.


By patrick on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 03:06 pm:

    Mumia Abu-Jamal


    It has become the poster case for human rights to many celebs here in America...along with Tibet, not to diminsh either cases crediability.




By Spider on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 03:35 pm:

    Too bad he's guilty, huh?


By patrick on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 03:42 pm:

    huh?

    im not schooled enough in the facts to be convinced either way .

    however, i generally trust Amnesty's opinion on these matters.


By Spider on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 03:46 pm:


By Spider on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 03:50 pm:


By Spider on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 03:54 pm:

    Dammit, you'll have to cut and paste the link. And the guy took down the transcript (or maybe not...I didn't look very hard).

    But if you go to http://www.danielfaulkner.com, you'll get the information on the man he shot.

    Read it - it's informative.


By spunky on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 03:56 pm:

    Patrick,
    The Afgan in the pic you had a link too looks like he is enjoying his product!


By Antigone on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 05:21 pm:


By The Watcher on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 05:33 pm:

    Now that has to be one of the weirdest coincidences yet.


By Antigone on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 05:48 pm:


By patrick on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 06:04 pm:


By Antigone on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 06:06 pm:


By fucko on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 06:25 pm:

    danke


By Nate on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 07:03 pm:

    i thought bush's speech to the UN was quite good.


By dave. on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 08:20 pm:

    you know, when faced with a choice of all the flavors of modern tyranny, the u.s. flavor seems to be the most tolerable. if saddam were worth a shit, he'd comply.

    that said, it still turns my stomach to hear our leaders try to act so pious and squeaky clean. especially this particular leader.


By Nate on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:47 pm:

    that gets to me too, dave..

    to enjoy a steak, i have to not think about how it used to course with blood on the bone of a bull. i think it extrapolate that out and you accept the righteousness of an otherwise evil organization without moral bankruptcy.

    maybe.

    or so i tell myself.


By dave. on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:39 am:

    did you happen to catch the look of contempt on condy's face when bush mangled one of his lines?

    i like to think that, behind closed doors, his cabinet shushes him and generally treats him like a subordinate.


By Joe on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:37 am:

    directed the music for a nice memorial service. it was good.


By spunky on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:20 am:

    I thought his speech was right on target.
    The UN is becoming irrelevent. 11 years of "resolutions", and 11 years of breaking resolutions, so what is the suggestion? More resolutions?
    There are no countries today that have any business setting in judgement of other countries.
    You have to pick the lessor of evils today.


By dave. on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:40 am:

    yeah, but we've blown off more u.n. resolutions than iraq. if that's his persuading argument, he has some nerve. he didn't present anything that anyone in that room didn't already know. the only thing he offered was to rejoin unesco, which probably won't happen.


By dave. on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:54 am:

    i usually let my broker pick the lessor of evils for me.


By patrick on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 11:33 am:

    i was going to say...reading a transcript of his speech i found my self saying

    "but what about.... but......but we did too...... but....."

    don't you love the carrot he gave to the UN with UNESCO?

    Even I had to say "huh?" wtf is UNESCO. They dug deep for that one.


    spunk how can you say this "I thought his speech was right on target"

    and then say this:

    "There are no countries today that have any business setting in judgement of other countries."

    This is what I mean. You make a no sense man. His entire speech WAS a judgement.


By dave. on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 11:42 am:

    wait, brokers don't usually deal with lessors.

    dumb and dumber.

    jon stewart did a funny bit on the speech last night. jon stewart rules.


By patrick on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 11:50 am:

    dammit, i think the vodka had caught up with me...i missed him.

    yes, Jon Stewart does rule.


By spunky on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:17 pm:

    Because it was. As stated by Dave, Bush did not say anything that the UN did not already know.
    You think it is all about the US attacking Iraq?????
    You think it is going to stop there?
    Do you honestly beleive for a minute that the US is the only country that is going to be prosecuting the current war that has no ending?
    Wake up. The future is here. It is war.
    It's the perfect set up for the new transistion that started over 200 years ago.
    The UN is irrelevent. No amount of Pontification and Speachifying and Resolutions and verbal agreements will solve anything.


By spunky on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:20 pm:

    There is strong evidence that the West Nile virus was the first bioweapon used by Iraq. Did you know the first cases appeared near the United Nations in New York and that a major Iraqi defector said Saddam bragged in 1997 he would release the West Nile virus on America?
    FEMA has a secret plan to build emergency cities that could house millions of Americans - after our cities are attacked by weapons of mass destruction.
    If the U.S. invades Iraq, Saddam has already told the U.S. how he will retaliate and what weapons he will use.


By Nate on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:22 pm:

    that was the league of nations. the UN has a security force.

    i read the transcript, so i missed out on the goofy guy.

    france is on our side now. france.


By patrick on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:48 pm:

    spunk what the fuck are you talking about in your 12:17 post?

    god damn, talking with you is like trying to communicate with amoeba.





By spunky on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:55 pm:

    What is so hard to understand?
    I beleive his speech was right on.
    the UN is irrelevent. Meaningless, toothless, and made up entirely of hypocates only interested in plundering the wealthy and adding to their own coffers.
    No country, past or present, is "clean" or "innocent" enough to sit in judgement of another country.
    But to let a regime (I was trying to find another word, but I will go with that for now) such as Iraq continue a dangerous build up is suicide.


By patrick on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:58 pm:

    whats more dangerous about Saddam's build up than ours, or North Korea's or Iran's?

    Spunk you say no one is innoncent enough to judge yet thats exactly what the President did dumbass.






By spunky on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:34 pm:

    OK Fucko, and the difference between now and 1998 when Clinton made the same judgement?


By kazoo on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:38 pm:

    So? Clinton was wrong too. Okay fucko


By patrick on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:45 pm:

    Spunk, the only person who spoke about judgements is you.

    What the hell does Clinton have to do with any of this? You made a post at 9:20am the contradicted itself. Thats all i addressed.

    You are chasing your own tail man, which is why, if you havent, PLEASE get off the pills.


By J on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 02:22 pm:

    Germany is not on our side,germans


By kazoo on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 02:27 pm:


By dave. on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 02:27 pm:

    germans.

    now is the time on sprockets when we dance. . .


By kazoo on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 02:33 pm:

    I love hamburg in the party season when we can skate home in other people's sick

    go ahead! touch my monkey


By patrick on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 02:39 pm:

    oh my dave, i sprayed my monitor with pretzles.





By dave. on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 02:49 pm:

    is that perfect or what? those goofballs make some pretty decent background music.


By spunky on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 03:33 pm:

    Again:
    "But to let a regime (I was trying to find another word, but I will go with that for now) such as Iraq continue a dangerous build up is suicide."
    "whats more dangerous about Saddam's build up than ours, or North Korea's or Iran's? "

    dictatorship with nothing to loose and no one to answer to (saddams),checks and balances (no one person can make the call) whose leadership can be disolved instantly, dictatorship.....


By patrick on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 03:39 pm:

    that still doesnt answer my question.

    who do you think governs Iran and North Korea?


By Nate on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 03:46 pm:

    i think iran has a pretty good government system. i think you're talking out your ass, patty.

    if you believe everything you read in the liberal rags, saddam is a nice guy. that's why the thinkin people think you LA bohemes are boneheads.


By patrick on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 04:05 pm:

    *looks around*

    bohemes?



    Iran has a moderate/reformist president overruled by fanatical clerics.

    Women are oppressed under this government, political freedom is limited, and under this government all kinds of human rights are broken, torture is practiced on a regular basis.

    pretty good government system eh? why are they rioting over there? why are they imprisoning anyone who speaks out against their government?


    i don't read liberal rags nor do i believe saddam is a "nice guy".

    are you drunk?


By Nate on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:02 pm:

    so what if women are oppressed? so what if political freedom is limited? it is a stable government who isn't going to invade its neighbors, that's the important point.

    anyway, fuck you patty. we all know you jerk off to chomsky. we know your kind. smoking your marijuana cigarettes and praying for peace. WELL IT AIN'T FUCKING POSSIBLE, MACKY.

    men are evil. we need to kill them.

    period.


By Gee on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:37 pm:

    yay Canada!

    I can finally say I have some respect for Chretien.


By semillama on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 11:42 pm:

    Gee, did you see the latest "what do you think"
    at theonion.com?

    Also, when Kazoo and I live together, will you
    come and stay in our cupboards?


By Gee on Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 02:05 pm:

    yes! on both counts!

    heehee, I can be the Indian in the Cupboard! :)


By semillama on Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 09:44 pm:

    hee hee!


By dave. on Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 09:53 pm:

    ack ack!


By Nate on Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 10:40 pm:

    hey dave, you know where i can get AC3 encoding software? there's a product called soft-encode that sonic foundry used to make but doesn't make anymore. surcode is another, but costs over a grand.

    i want to make stoneriffic 5.1 mixes, goddamnit.


By spunky on Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 10:45 pm:


By Nate on Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 10:48 pm:

    uh, that doesn't encode dolby digital.

    you're not making and sense, spunky. you should really kick those sleeping pills.


By dave. on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 11:29 am:

    i have soft encode 1.0 if you want that. it's about 2.5 megs. will that fit in your email?

    also, i have sequoia and there's an ac3 encoder plugin for sequoia that i've seen but don't have. i'll keep my eyes open and send the stuff to you on cd if i can get it.

    i always thought that was for dvd ripping, which i have no interest in. so, you got the fancy new multichannel audio thingy?


By Nate on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 02:03 pm:

    i got a receiver that does dolby digital, but the idea came from this place telling me how to burn a CDR that would work in it. i can make the six channels individually, but I can't get them into one .wav.

    i'll get my email to you. i bet it would go through.


By dave. on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 11:20 pm:

    duh. . .i can use my webspace. fugeddabout email.

    go here, get the zip and read the .nfos. there's a folder with a cracked version that i installed and it appears to work. there's also another version that you have to monkey around with to get working. i give you both.


By Nate on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 11:47 pm:

    got it. thanks.


By Nate on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 02:14 am:

    frikin amazing. it actually works.


By Joe on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:41 am:

    directed the music for a nice memorial service. it was good.


By nate on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 01:27 am:

    ha ha. joe's uppercase.

    Joe. HI JOE. haha. HI JOE.

    don't forget to put a space and then "loves anal love beads" after your name to give you that good lowercase feel.

    just like that. all lowercase, no punctuation.


By Joe on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 01:18 am:

    thanx, nate. i appreciate the support.


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