"The President HAS SPOKEN" in a deep grave voice the Maximum Leader. . right or wrong, he's our leader and we've got to rally behind him. . or somewhere. rally around him?


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By Jose Jimenez on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 - 01:20 pm:

    and we're reacting in the appropriate fashion.
    it's a 'post-911 world,' now it's a 'Post-ultimatum to Saddam to Gett outta town World.'
    . . the shooting starts Thursday unless of course, President Saddam and his cohorts and sons do leave Iraq.
    The citizens do _not_ need to get duct tape this time. That was only a Washington thang really. Instead of trying to keep it (the Terror)out with duct tape, just let the sun shine on the bacteria for one day or if it's a chemical attack, ordinary cleaners and a nice shower will take care of the problem. and of course, wash your clothes if you're exposed to a poison gas weapon of mass destruction.
    If a 'nucular' bomb goes off, it's duck and cover.

    News: Bush can now say the word 'nuclear' correctly. He's not stupid, he's better than Reagan as far as being trainable. I'd give him a good grade as far as communication skills. Sound bytes from the president's speech last night were delivered in an appropriately sober and sombre tone. He was very successful in communicating a grave feeling of terRoR to those people that believe "he knows more than we do so we have to go with his 'sense' of terror.

    (That's why the Founding Fathers made it difficult to declare war. . Throughout history monarchs have always used war to keep themselves in power)

    Power to the punk persons.

    The Shmengie Brothers have spoken.


By Speaker of the House J. Dennis Hastert on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 - 02:18 pm:

    I was disappointed to see Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle's comments regarding the upcoming military action in Iraq. Those comments may not undermine the President as he leads us into war, and they may not give comfort to our adversaries, but they come mighty close.

    Senator Daschle has spent more time criticizing the leadership of President Bush than he has spent criticizing the tyranny of Saddam Hussein. Mr. Hussein is the reason we are at this moment in history. Saddam Hussein has a long history of brutality, a long track record of harboring weapons of mass destruction and supporting terrorists and terrorist organizations. He has terrorized his neighbors and his own citizens. He has made a mockery out of the United Nations for twelve years now, and because the United Nations will not act to protect its integrity, we will act for it."

    Make no mistake. Saddam Hussein is to blame for this war. This war is only necessary because Saddam Hussein refuses to disarm, refuses to leave power, and refuses to stop his brutal ways. I would hope that at this time of crisis, we will all work together to support our troops and our President as we move forward to remove Saddam Hussein from power.


By patrick on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 - 02:43 pm:

    "Senator Daschle has spent more time criticizing the leadership of President Bush than he has spent criticizing the tyranny of Saddam Hussein."

    no shit trace. Bush is his president, not Saddam. If Daschel spent more time dicussing Saddam Id have to wonder who he works for.


    "Mr. Hussein is the reason we are at this moment in history. Saddam Hussein has a long history of brutality, a long track record of harboring weapons of mass destruction and supporting terrorists and terrorist organizations."

    Saddam wouldnt have had half the WMD capability had we not propped him up 15 years ago. Don't forget where he got his WMDs. Its no so cut and dry.



    He has made a mockery out of the United Nations for twelve years now, and because the United Nations will not act to protect its integrity, we will act for it."


    its potentially interesting to note that quotation mark at the end of this statement, as if you copied it and forgot to remove it.

    but to the content of the statement....

    while Saddam has made a mess of the UN, its the US now taking the reigns in that department. They do not have UN approval for this action. if there is anyone sealing the deal in minimizing the efficacy of the UN, its the US by circumventing to enforce UN resolutions.

    Though I dont have my notes, Im willing to bet "regime change" is not an action sanction by the UN either.


By Hermann Goering on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 - 02:44 pm:

    Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.

    All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.


By C. rOVE on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 09:53 am:

    BUSH IS A TERRORIST

    BUSH IS A TERRORIST.
    IT SUITS HIS PURPOSES TO HAVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN.

    WHY HAVEN'T WE HEARD THE TERM "SO CALLED" WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION?





By Peter Freundlich on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 11:37 am:

    All right, let me see if I understand the logic of this correctly. We are going to ignore the United Nations in order to make clear to Saddam Hussein that the United Nations cannot be ignored. We're going to wage war to preserve the UN's ability to avert war. The paramount principle is that the UN's word must be taken seriously, and if we have to subvert its word to guarantee that it is, then by gum, we will. Peace is too important not to take up arms to defend. Am I getting this right?

    Further, if the only way to bring democracy to Iraq is to vitiate the democracy of the Security Council, then we are honor-bound to do that too, because democracy, as we define it, is too important to be stopped by a little thing like democracy as they define it.

    Also, in dealing with a man who brooks no dissension at home, we cannot afford dissension among ourselves. We must speak with one voice against Saddam Hussein's failure to allow opposing voices to be heard. We are sending our gathered might to the Persian Gulf to make the point that might does not make right, as Saddam Hussein seems to think it does. And we are twisting the arms of the opposition until it agrees to let us oust a regime that twists the arms of the opposition. We cannot leave in power a dictator who ignores his own people. And if our people, and people elsewhere in the world, fail to understand that, then we have no choice but to ignore them.

    Listen. Don't misunderstand. I think it is a good thing that the members of the Bush administration seem to have been reading Lewis Carroll. I only wish someone had pointed out that "Alice in Wonderland" and "Through the Looking Glass" are meditations on paradox and puzzle and illogic and on the strangeness of things, not templates for foreign policy. It is amusing for the Mad Hatter to say something like, `We must make war on him because he is a threat to peace,' but not amusing for someone who actually commands an army to say that.

    As a collector of laughable arguments, I'd be enjoying all this were it not for the fact that I know--we all know--that lives are going to be lost in what amounts to a freak, circular reasoning accident.

    Source


By Antigone on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 12:42 pm:


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