People at Sorabji, Ok, here goes. I'm 14, and I know a few girls who would screw me, or at least suck my dick, but I don't know how to get it done, unless the girl and me were drunk at a party. If anyone can give me some tips on how to get laid or at least get some oral done, I'd really appriciate it. Rob, Tampa Florida

crawl up a chicken's ass and wait.

i may just be tired but now i'm laughing. took me reading it twice to get that.

I think you are too young to be getting into all that crap. Anyone deserves better, wait for the right person, promise you will regret loosing it now, so I think you should wait for the right person, oh yeah, and being legal! That always helps too. KEEP YOUR INOCENCE BOY!

14?! damn. When I was 14 I first kissed a girl. I had 4 years of virginity left. It hasn't even been a year since then. Trust me, getting into that stuff at your age is not worth it. Too many people at my school got pregnant and passed around STD's. If you're going to have sex with someone, make sure you've at least got a good relationship going. Make sure you aren't one of several guys she's doing.

Sex at 14? Why? I'm telling you Rob/wait at least another year. In the meantime/try developing a good relationship w/a terrific girl -- someone you can laugh & goof w/& tell yr secrets too. And treat her like a princess. You'll be beating her off w/a stick 10 mos. from now -- trust me. Sex is not a sport or something you do just to say you've done it -- like playing chicken or shoplifting. If you're really not into a particular girl/why risk knocking her up or catching some disease just so you can say you got laid? But if you've gotta have it/make sure you bring & use a condom. And if you're too embarassed to walk into 7-11 & buy one yrself/then you're too young to be screwing.

y'know rob, when i was 14... well.. nevermind. i'll be getting hatemail for months if i tell you about that...

Oh, you tease!

Swine slept w/Cindfy Crawford when he was 14. Even tho' he'd told her she had a flat ass/she was all on his jock. This was before she blew up. But she still says he was the best lay she's ever had.

I have to ask: If you don't know how to get laid, then how do you know the girl(s) want you?

Well, actually, nevermind about the whole thing. I guess your right about being too young. I guess I was just kinda horny :-P. Anyways, I know because one girl told me (even though she's a little whore). I guess your right about developing a relationship and being too young. Oh yeah, and Slacker, that wasn't funny, just really stupid, You can come up with something better than "Crawl up a chickens ass and wait". Keep trying, and maybe someday, you'll get the hang of a dis. Thanks, Rob

thanks for the vote of confidence rob. and it was so funny

NO YOU ARE.

yes i aren't

I find it helpful to watch the Rambo trilogy when I am feeling randy. Boom,boom,bop. Sylvester's bulbous pecs wrapped rigidly around that hard steel would make any girl woozy.

You're not a girl though.

when in doubt whip it out

ok it's out. now what?

It's getting cold. I've been sitting here for HOURS.

Rob is 14 like I'm Yaphet Kotto.

PLEASE COME AND FUCK ME BAGPUSS

Rob... Here you go this is the advice, take it or leave it. But realize it for what it is. First of all, your fucking 14 years of age boy, you need to think about what your doing here. You are pumped full of hormones right now and if you were any older you'd have the maturity to realize this fact and also realize the affects its having on your body and your mind. You don't need to get laid. What you need to do, is find yourself an 18 year-old to buy your ass some porno. If you can't do that, I'm sure seeing as your a 14 year-old you've figured out a way to look at it while your on the net. And this is what you need to do once you've aquired yourself some decent quality porn. Masturbate, and let me tell you this if your thinking to yourself right now, "eww, disgusting I won't do that." Then you my friend are way to young to be having sex. Masturbation is normal man, its a way of reliving stress... And I'm sure if you do it once or twice a day it will get you mind of this "need to have sex." Like I said wait. And if you need some more incentive, this is the layout. In most states it is illigeal to have sex before the age of 16. Now that is for females, but the law is if you go and have sex with some female younger than 16 you can be sued by her parent and potentially sent off to juvie...So don't fuck yourself in the process man. Beat off, and tell us all how you feel in the morning.

LAA Fuck your Bagpuss?? I'm not YOUR bagpuss or anyone's for that matter? I'm mine.

and you should never have sex with any girl you consider to be "a little whore." unless, of course, you're paying for it.

or you need to tell someone that you whipped your cock out BLIZITYBLIZOUGH and pumped that little whore until SHAZAM you lauched your manmustard all over the perky little whore titties. and the best part, you walked out without paying the little whore.

We used to call it man-onaisse when I was in high school. and pearl drops. a host of things. cream, however, was used as a verb. This is a strange place.

Just to think about: My friends had a band with a song about some guy they knew who got the clap after his first time. Perhaps it was a little whore, eh, Robbo?

NATE! Don't tell him something like that! He's only a kid for pete's sake! If he were yr little brother/wd you have given him that advice? To LIE abt fucking some girl? Wd you want some jerk calling yr sister a 'little whore' ? Here's some kid begging for sex tips online becuz he can't get laid/yet in the same breath he calls another girl a 'whore' for being experienced? And you jump right onto the bandwagon! NEWSFLASH: No one gets sexually experienced by themselves. So if she's a whore/so are they guys who helped her build that reputation! I swear, Nate..... I hope you don't go around kissing & telling to all yr friends/& calling the women you screw 'whores'. And the ones who won't give it up are 'bitches'. Right? (I swear.... every prince I find around here turns out to be an undervcover frog.)

ribbit.

actually, my post was a continuation of Cysts. She said the only reason to fuck a 'little whore' was if you're paying for it. i added another reason. and of course i never do that. i don't fuck. I MAKE LOVE.

what I meant to say was that: 1) it's ok to pay for sex. 2) if you think of someone as a whore, then the only sex you should be having with them is of the straight financial-transaction type. having sex with someone you already have a low opinion of will lead to problems and in the end will not be worth it at all.

(okay/lemme stop laughing at Swine's ribbit... Yr Swineness/you now owe me half a Margarita /for the one which is sliding towards my navel as we speak. (And I'd splurged on Patron!) I shall NEVER visit this site w/out a full-length shirt on again!) ............................................................................ But Cyst -- we're talking abt 14-yr-olds here! Years ago/I used to run w/a couple of girls in the commercial sex trade (hookers to you)/& neither they nor I had any qualms abt how they paid the rent. But both of them were past 18 when they got into The Life. And both of them lied to strangers & claimed to be students or actresses whenever someone asked they what they did/becuz of the stigma of being known as prostitute. I didn't mean to break on Nate (well, okay/I did -- he's fallen from grace in my eyes/ but I'll get over it). It's just that it makes me ill to see how early all the labeling b.s. starts these days. A 14-yr-old male virgin is 'desperate' or 'a dork'. But a girl of the same age who is sexually experienced is tagged a 'whore' by her peers?? WHY? Our society shd be well past the point where a female is ostracized for her sexual experience/while a male of the same age is regarded as a stud -- or a dweeb is he hasn't gotten any. But I think it's more than a little crazy that ANYONE at 14 shd be having sex. Thinking abt it/sure. But not actively engaged. The maturity & personal responsibility genes haven't kicked in yet. I wasn't EVEN thinking abt sex at that age! I kissed my 1st boy at 14/then ran home to stare at myself in the mirror for half an hour to make sure I hadn't morphed into Jessica Rabbit/so my parents wdn't be able to tell what I'd done. I didn't get laid til I was almost 17/& that was only after weeks of advance planning. I have a brother 2 yrs. younger than I am/& I know for a fact that he didn't get laid til he was 16 (even though the girl next door used to let him & our homey from across the street feel her up). When anyone starts labeling young girls as whores/there's a very good chance that's exactly what they'll become. It's the age old My Fair Lady paradigm:"The difference between a a lady & a flower girl is not in how she behaves /but in how she is treated." If you treat a girl likes she's nothing but a place to "launch yr manmustard"/then how can she ever become more than that? FYI: It's this kind of attitude that drives women to making guys cough up major dough for dinners & concert tickets & flowers & meaningless crap before they let you get them btwn the sheets. Becuz they think they only way to make sure you value them is by making you spend $$ on them. Which is ridiculous. But as defense/it works. (Unless the guy's got $$ to burn.) (Altho' I wd shag anyone who got me 3rd row seats & a back stage pass to see the DMB.)

Nate doesn't "fuck," he "makes love." That was SOOOOO Barry White!

as usual, I agree with everything r.c. said. if a 14-y-o girl is offering to blow or fuck some guy she doesn't even know, that poor girl obviously has some major problems. she probably has a fucked-up home life (abusive father maybe? alcoholic parents? something bad, I'm sure.) and having some 14-y-o boy going around and calling her a "little whore" isn't helping her out any. anyway, you're right, 14-y-o kids shouldn't be having sex. but they will anyway. but at least if they're going to do this, they should not do it -- no one should do it -- with someone you have no respect for. it will all get very ugly. you don't have to be in love or anything, but don't mess around with girls you call whores. either be nice or leave them alone -- they have enough problems already.

The days of sport-fucking are over.

bullshit.n

You think it's bullshit Nate? You think casual sex is still 'in'? Did you catch Nightline Wed. nite? I only heard the tail-end of the report/but I made sure I got my ass to their website to read the story. I've saved you the trouble of reading thru the boring parts/but you can access the entire transcript here: http://www.abcnews.go.com/onair/nightline/transcripts/nl990519_trans.html AIDS' NEXT WAVE excerpted from: ABC Nightline Wednesday, May 19, 1999 (This is an unedited, uncorrected transcript.) MICHELE NORRIS (on camera): Today, much of the early optimism about the so-called miracle drugs is beginning to fade because of new research. The initial hope was that the new drug therapies would not simply suppress the virus to undetectable levels, but would eradicate all traces of it. But new studies show that even after years of treatment, small amounts of the AIDS virus hide in the body, lurking in a state of remission. DR. ROGER POMERANTZ ( AIDS researcher): HIV can lie latent or fallow in a cell acting like a Trojan Horse. MICHELE NORRIS (VO): And doctors warn the residual virus is still highly transmittable, even in its latent stage. DR ROGER POMERANTZ: The virus hides in mysterious ways. Just because you can’t detect it in the blood plasma, just because you can’t feel as bad as you did before does not mean that you cannot communicate the virus to someone else. MICHELE NORRIS (VO): Wiping out the hidden virus with the drug cocktails is extremely difficult, scientists say, perhaps even impossible. A recent study suggests eradication could take as long as 60 years. DR. HOWARD GROSSMAN (AIDS clinician): Eradication is a fantasy now and anybody who talks about it as something realistic for the majority of people is just misleading people. DR. MICHAEL SAAG: And slowly, initially at a trickle and now more at a roar, WE'RE SEEING PATIENTS COME BACK WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE TREATMENTS FOR TWO AND THREE YEARS WHO ARE DEVELOPING VIROLOGIC FAILURE. THE VIRUS IS COMING BACK. And so we went from this depths of despair in 1993 to this pretty profound euphoria in 1996 and, unfortunately, right now, the roller coaster is headed back downhill. And it’s not really clear how far down it’s going to go, but the momentum right now is certainly in the wrong direction. TED KOPPEL: When we come back, warnings that we are simply in the eye of the storm. (Commercial Break) DR. BRUCE WALKER: One of the things that’s really quite worrisome is that we’re beginning to see people who come in now with new HIV infection, never been treated, have just become infected AND YET THEY'RE INFECTED WITH A VIRUS THAT'S ALREADY RESISTANT TO THE DRUGS. MICHELE NORRIS (VO): Dr. Bruce Walker, of Massachusetts General Hospital, says he’s seeing more and more of the drug resistant strains. DR. BRUCE WALKER: And that’s going to be the next epidemic that we’re dealing with is the transmission of drug resistant viruses. DR. MICHAEL SAAG: But I think we’re on the verge of an era in increasing transmission of resistant HIV and that’s a really scary proposition. MICHELE NORRIS (VO): Back at the University of Alabama clinic, one of the largest in the country, and where many of these therapies were first used, the outlook is grim. UNIDENTIFIED AIDS PATIENT: It was worse than ever. It hurt so bad and I mean I couldn’t even drive. MICHELE NORRIS (on camera): Dr. Saag likens the epidemic to a hurricane. After the first wave of devastation, the new drugs bought a period of calm. Death rates dropped. The proverbial eye of the storm. But now Saag is bracing for the storm to return. DR MICHAEL SAAG: We’re all in for a rude awakening in the near future. Clinicians and patients are going to see deaths returning. The general public is going to see deaths returning and maybe, I’m afraid, the incidence of the development of new cases rising. ............................................................................ You still wanna be a playa? Then you're playing w/yr life. And the stakes are higher now than they were 5 yrs. ago.

i'm no 'playa' (spanish for 'beach', but i'm no player either.) I've never met anyone with AIDS, nor have I met anyone who has met anyone with AIDS. AIDS is an epidemic largely among gay males. it is very difficult to pass from woman -> man. there are plenty of other things, however, that make me want to bag the big boy. syph and gonn. things that hide without symptom for years. evil. but i think casual sex is still very big. go to any bar in any college town and look around. strangers fucking strangers.

can i have your audio gear when you die?

You forgot that pesky virus herpes,it doesn,t kill you but it doesn,t go away,seems like alot of people have it.I know a slut(I,m related to her),and she has herpes and thinks nothing about having casual sex and I KNOW she doesn,t tell them about her problem.She figures someone gave it to her,she,ll just "spead the love".There are lots of people like that out in this world,people lie or leave out important info.There are diseases out there I can,t even pronounce,think about that instead of thinking with your penis.Think about how I have to pick up her underwear with a pencil,there is so much crud coming out of her bottom,she says it,s a yeast infection,I think not.Think of little pink panties with greenish-yellow pudding in the croutch area,thats not poo.Think of your hand as your best friend and as an added plus,it can,t talk.Think about how I showed her underwear to some of my friends and why we call her "crusty".Think about how some people would screw the crack of dawn,if they could get up that early.

you're a sick fuck. "little pink panties" "poo" you're a ped,eh? oh, and btw: the apostrophe is the what happens when you don't push shift and hit the quote button. what you're using is called a "comma."

>as an added plus,it can,t talk. Charming.

Oh fuck you,I think you just try to piss me off!I have to live with her,we both wear pink panties,I just don,t leave mine laying around and even if I did the only thing you would find is an occasional skid-mark.Thanks for the typing tip,and give me your address,I,m sure you,d like to put your matter in her batter.maybe I can look up a glory-hole in your area.

showing a relative's (note the apostrophe) crusty underwear to friends is not only disgusting but reprehensible. it sounds like something the 14 year old boys who smelled like rancid pizza and used to hang around in clumps at the highschool would enjoy.

"AIDS is an epidemic largely among gay males. it is very difficult to pass from woman -> man." You're kidding. Right? Or are you dopey enuf to really believe that? Did you know that AIDS is the largest killer of Black females btwn 18-35? It kills more of us annually than smoking/breast cancer or drugs. And sure/poverty rates & poor health care have a lot to do w/that. But it's a definite threat in the Black hetero community. Think abt the basic phsyiology. The virus is transmitted thru blood/mucus membranes & bodily fluids. When a man comes inside a woman/his sperm is the carrier. He injects virus-riddled jism into her most vunerable areas. Which is why women are 12x more likely to catch the virus during hetero sex. BUT when a man enters a woman's vagina/he is SURROUNDED my a mucosal lining. Basically a clubhouse for the virus to lounge in. And the urethra is just a tunnel leading into the rest of the body. If she knicked his glans w/her teeth during head/you can add a cut or abrasion as an additional entryway. Do you really think having a dick makes you less likely to get infected, Nate? Or are you a religious condom-user/so you don't feel you have to worry? And are you sure you don't know anyone who knows someone w/AIDS? Maybe they just haven't come out abt it. Becuz it's everywhere. I've only known 3 poeple who had it/& this was before protease inhibitors. They're all dead now (but 1 comitted suicide). I don't have a very wide social circle/but I'm sure there's a least one friend/co-worker/or relative of mine who is HIV positive & keeping quiet abt it. Plus viruses are extremely adaptable. With all the drug-resistant strains cropping up & the fact that more people are using condoms/I wdn't be surprised if a new AIDS strain developed that was concentrated more strongly in the saliva -- so it can transmit itself thur kissing/since condoms are preventing it's spread thru intercourse. You're a big boy Nate/& no dummy. All I'm saying is/take nothing for granted. Make sure you use condoms. EVERY time.

You can,t pick your relatives,my friends and I are over 21 and we are immature,and I considered showing the panties a public service message.I notice she does,t have many dates these days.My keyboard must not be set up like yours.As for the 14 year old boy business,I take it that you want me to send you a pair.

according to the CDC, between 1985 and 1996 homosexual men and injected drug users comprised 81.6% of AIDS cases. 56.9% homosexual men. 3.4% of all male AIDS cases are from heterosexual sex. 37.9% of all female AIDS cases are from heterosexual sex. SOURCE: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for HIV, STD and TB Prevention, Division of HIV/AIDS Prevention.

send a pair of 14 year olds? or send a pair of panties for them? too late, last time spent around a highschool was at least 9 years ago.

1) I'm with RC on the whole AIDS thingum. 2) Casual sex is bigger than ever. 3) The CDC seems to send out a lot of mixed messages. 4) If some chick is sleeping around and not telling people she's got herpies, that's just wrong. 5) Showing someone's underpants off to friends is really creepy. For whatever reason. Wouldn't it have been a lot easier to just say "She's got herpies." ? 6) Why do people say "slut" like it's a bad thing? As long as you're not breaking peoples hearts, and you're taking precautions, what's the big whoop? I wonder who came up with societies acceptable morals.

a lot of that 'slut' and 'whore' stuff is related to religion, especially in the most corrupt times of religious leaders manipulating people through fear. the history of that stuff (developed in patriarchal societies) has set up a lot of double standards which have been perpetuated and used by various groups of people expressing their power over others. i think.

True. But sometimes/he or she is just a slut.

:)

well, i never did that before

What is your definition of a Slut?

*grin*

I think a slut is someone who has a disease and knows it and spreads it around.I don,t care who or how many people she sleeps with,just give them the facts about your disease,then if they still want anything to do with the slut then the ball is in their court.I think a man can be a slut too.I know some men sluts too.Not that I would have anything to do with them.I think if the slut wasn,t such a slob I wouldn,t have to pick up her filthy panties (with a pencil)in the first place.I think a picture is worth a thousand words.

this thread is going nowhere fast.

i am driving issues to closure today.

Don't you find it amusing that one kid started all this mess... By asking a sick little question.

that's how it always is my favorite part is that threads spend most of the time off subject. loading a topic about sex and getting a discussion on hand soap or something is pretty funny

My definition of a slut is what J said + anyone who treats sex like an act of petty larceny. Or like something of no value. I don't believe you have to be in love to have sex w/someone. But if you're only doing it to 'get over' on them/that's slutty. If you're screwing someone you don't really like just becuz they look good/or they paid yr rent/or got you high/or can introduce you to someone else/or becuz it's raining & you don't feel like walking all the way to the subway/that's slutty. If you're screwing someone you know has (or has fathered) 4 kids by 3 different fathers (mothers)/that's slutty. Becuz that person is obviously a slut. Which makes you a slut for sleeping w/someone who is promiscuous & too stupid to use condoms. And group sex is slutty. A proper Tango only takes two people. Contrary to what the Christian right says/I don't think Sex is the most special or valuable thing you can share w/another person. (Trust is/IMO.) But sex is pretty far up my list. Hence/it's not something you do for sport or material gain or just for the hell of it. Unless you're a slut. But very decent people can fall into slutty behavior on occasion. Esp. when under the influence.

Time for me to weigh in. A slut, I think, is someone who enjoys sex so much that it matters not who the person is they're having sex with or what the ramifications are. A slut doesn't necessarily have to be "unsafe." And I have to agree with R.C., that those who partake in group sex are sluts. That said, I admit, from time to time, to being a slut... in *my* definition. heh.

Yea R.C. and I have to babysit and spend my money on the sluts kids,while she out spreading the love and working on getting pregnant again.I love those kids,don,t get me wrong,but they aren,t my responsibility.When my nephew was born the slut didn,t mention that her herpes was active and he was in the infectious disease floor at the hospital for weeks with tubes and needles in him,he didn,t deserve that,it broke my heart.He,s okay now,no thanks to her.

Did you call Social Services & report her? If she's negligent REPORT HER. Better for her kids to be in foster care/or w/a realtive (are their father's around?) than for them to be at risk of injury or abuse or malnutrition. If she's just a careless Mom but she at least feeds & clothes them & keeps the house reasonably clean/well, that state can't intervene just becuz she has lousy morals.

The kids are okay,she loves them in her own way,she just spends more time on the telephone or going out than on the kids.But you reminded me of something,my friend works at an elementary school and this little boy she use to tell me about would come to school hungery and dirty,his mom was a tweaker.Finally the school nurse called C.P.S,and they wouldn,t do a damn thing,they said it was a lifestyle choice.Now she says the mom pulled him out of school and we still worry about him.

What's a tweaker? And if he was malnourished/or had scabies or other parasites/CPS is OBLIGATED to at least make a home visit! Shit -- nowadays/if you spank yr kids for stealing & they call CPS/they show up ready to take yr children away. There's a teenager in the Bronx on trial now for negligent homicide. Her baby starved to death. She was breastfeeding the kid/but she'd had breast reduction surgery some time ago. Apparently/no one advised her that the loss of milk ducts from the surgery cd make it difficult for her to breastfeed in the future. I dunno all the details/but it seems to me you'd have to be pretty damn stupid NOT to notice that yr kid isn't gaining weight every week. But when she tried to see a doctor/the hospitals turned her away/becuz she didn't have her Medicaid card yet. Which again makes no sense/there are plenty of public hospitals in NYC that are required by law to treat you/whether you have insurance or not. And where was this girl's Mother? Grandma shd've noticed the baby wasn't thriving... So I'm shocked that CPS didn't intervene re: the little boy. Where do you live anyway?

I live in Chandler,but my friend was teaching in Scottsdale,a nice area I might add.A tweaker is someone who does meth,that shit that makes a father cut off his 11 year old son,s head,and a mother stab her 4 year old son to death more than 100 times.Speed R.C.,but worse than we were kids.

I know that a high-schooler told me that what made him quit was when his friends dad,tried to get him to score some for him.I thought that was so sordid.

okay, I'm bringing the topic back. I was 14 when I first had sex. Did I love him? Hell no. Did I trust him? Barely. I wanted him. I wanted it. That's all there was. So we did. I wasn't even dating him. Just two bored kids home alone. Pretty romantic huh? But I never regreted it. We talk about it now and laugh and laugh. I never thought I was crazy or too young or immature or a little whore. Never even thought about it...until now (thanks guys). Face it, if everyone waited until they were mature and ready, no one would be getting any at all. At least no-one I've ever met. The idea that sex or virginity is some magical golden flower that you present to this person only when you're madly in love and over 16 and planing the wedding is very funny. Sex and love have nothing to do with each other. Sure, you can have them at the same time and *it is* better that way, it really is, but they really have no similarites. They can be seperate. They usually are. Anyway, my point is do what you want with who you want whenever you want, just for god sakes do it safely and with the tiniest bit of thought. That's what seperates the sluts from the rest of us.

bravo, whisper.

Where did you get your education whisper? The Sex-Ghetto?? Your lack of faith is disgusting. If you have these Brave New World orgy-type teen sex fantasies keep them to yourself, we don't need to hear about 'em. The whole existence of sex comes from love for someone. People who can't control their hormones are weak people. And weak people are the type that never become successful in life, can't wait for anything, and sometimes, if they are a day trader, and lose a lot of money, go kill 12 people in atlanta. grow up whisper, it wouldn't kill you to be mature.

You "Beep" whore! How can you "Beep" "Beep" every little thing. "Beep" you and "Beep" yo' momma! Hey! The 'Beep' thing really does work. I'll answer everything in Beep mode. Maybe not...Beep it( that'd be "fuck it" ).

beep, beep, beep. the whole existance of sex does not come from love for someone. what a retarded notion. sex comes from hormones, and is a pleasurable experience. period. all this other crap that jesus christ has laid on it is part of the problems with society. because of this oppression of human nature we have such things as rape and pornography. because of one stupid "christian" notion. you closed minded fuck. INDIGNATION IS JEALOUSY WITH A HALO. never forget it.

is this how you deal with your christian, puritanical frustrations and guilt? never got a blow in the woods, in the fort, from the neighborhood cutie when you were 13? rent the movie happiness and think things over, take a stress pill.....deep breaths.......... then go jerk off to the church bulletin masturbation the great equalizer!

some new slutty and mediocre self-portraits now online at http://www.omnigroup.com/OldLook/People/Friends/cyst/pictures/france/franceindex.html I sent the guy who maintains my web page some photos and told him he could put whichever ones he liked up on the page. they aren't the ones I would have chosen, but whatever.

you take a fine portrait.......................uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....you............are.........sexy..................... do you consider yourself an exhibitionist, a narcisist?

Cyst, you should get one of those cameras with the little cord that has the..uhhh..little button on the end of it (you know what I'm saying? I don't know the name for the thing) so you don't have to obscure your face with the camera.

cable release

buuuuuullllllllb

timer and tripod (or something that works just as well like a bean bag propped on a table or something) works nice as well

i need a tripod. i take too many low-light pic while drunk. i decided to develop two rolls of nudes through kodak. they only printed about half my pics. i couldn't figure out what stopped them (ie, there didn't seem to be a condition present in the unprinted shots that would indicate a reason to neglect them.) i did get some cool shots at 1/4 or 1/8 a second. handheld & drunk. the images are blurred but the subject is still descernable. when i have the model's permission, i'll make some scans for interested parties.

look at the negatives, is there even the slightest bit of exposure? Most labs well negate a negative if there is not a recognizable exposure even though if you were doing it yourself you could still make a print from it. Over OR under exposed its not impossible. I have to tell the fucks when ever I get color film processed that I want every frame printed regardless if THEY think it's a fucked up shot. I suspect Kodak may have done you the same way which kind bites when you have it done by a machine. There is no play invovled, the strict tolerances do not take into consideration the booze or drugs in your system at the time the exposure was made, something for which I can correct in the darkroom. Control is ideal.

i did look at the negatives. there is really no difference between the prints they did and the prints they didn't do. i'll just have to do reprints or whatever. or actually set up my room. goddamnit.

I did some topless shots once and the kids at the film shop fucking stole them. I have a cable release at home. I should get a timer for the camera. today I finished a roll of 1600 film in a new dress that I wasn't sure where I would ever be able to wear. the guy who puts the photos up on my site is very encouraging. except he's really slow about scanning the photos once he's received them in the mail. these took him a month. when I get back to the states my roommate says she wants me to take naked pictures of her boyfriend's teenage chick friends. my new calling.

nate - what speed film were you using? get the fuji 1600 color for drunk hotel-room nudes. or at least the kodak gold 1000.

Cyst your camera doesn't have a timer built in??? Surprising, most camera made in 65 on have them! Also I can recommend, as far as black and white goes, Kodak Tri-X 400. the good thing about this very versatile film is it can be pushed to 800 or 1600. Meaning, when you load the film, set your ISO to either 800 or 1600 in order to fool your camera. That way you will still be able to get a reading on the meter. When it comes to developing, tell the guys you pushed it to 800 or 1600 and they will leave it in the developer a little longer to accomodate. Your negatives will be slightly underexposed but with simple darkroom adjustments you can get those motel,liquor-laced nudie shots.

but then again Cyst, I was looking closer at your camera and I don't see a button or dial, where most timers are usually located. That sucks!!

........furthermore Cyst, it's very diffcult to find models for what i am doing. Either that or they haven't come out of the wood work in my social circles. Most of the girls I know are too uptight or insecure with themselves. But then again I am often apprehensive to approach strangers. I always mention that I would be accompanied by my wife and they could have an escort. Eitherway, let it be known, anyone in LA looking to have photos done, I'm your man. Also, be careful taking picture of chicks under 18, it puts you in a vulnerable position should one of them want to fuck you over. If I ever publish any photos of my wife or anyone elese, I legally have to get a model release.

I was using Tri-X 400. I had two rolls of that and two rolls of 100. I only shot the 400. Someone was so into modelling that she begged and pleaded with me to get more film (after I explained that the 100 wouldn't cut it.) Then I had to explain what half a bottle of wine and a six pack does to my driving abilities. I finished off with the fact that no one sells film at 3 in the morning. I haven't played with anything over 400 in about 10 years. hmm.

hey. I didn't put those photos up for people to look at my fucking CAMERA, ok? no kodak tmax is going to give you skin tones. I use kodak tmax 3200 to shoot people getting stoned in middle-ages wine cellars.

extra high-speed film is great for pretending you're a photographer. stock up, avoid x-ray machines and rent another hotel room. the photos turn out grainy but so the fuck what. you can shoot at 1/60 and have more stuff come out.

on the page I listed the url for above, the first photo was shot with kodak gold 1000, and the last five are fuji 1600 (my new favorite toy). the lingerie is hennes & mauritz, and I realize now that bra is too big for me. oh well.

uh....you needn't get your exhibitionist tendencies in a flare Cyst, I was only peeping at your camera on my SECOND visit.......I've been able to use tri-x 400 pushed to 800 shooting at 1/15 of a second, it can be done if you have bracket arm or something to brace yourself with. The grain is inevitable with the higher speeds but I kinda dig it. If you ever happen to shoot outdoors and want kick ass resolution, give AGFA Pan 25, 50 or 100 a try. Most of the pics on my page were made with that film or the tri-x. Those two films are my typical stock. Although I have tried Ilford films but I find the tones not as sharp. It seems to deal with the middle sections of the gray scale, where as AGFA is almost 100% inclusive.

uh... oh, it's SO big for you I can tell!

I love it. Only here could this turn into a discussion about photography. Intriguing photos, Cyst, I laud you. I especially like the first one. You are bold and I admire you for it. I'd like to sit down one day with you and look through your photo albums. I'll chip in with advice, although it's not about cameras: Tell your friend to learn about thumbnails. I read three of the essays I wrote on capitalism and the Hawaiian sugar industry while waiting for the download. (Ok, i just skimmed them. but...) I regret not running out and getting a cheap scanner before my sentencing.

Sexual morality: The only real, meaningful sexual morality that there ever has been or should be is: Safe, Sane, & Consensual. The rest is personal. And a slut is a woman who enjoys sex. Gotta go, they're throwing me out of the library.

semillama - I have no idea why my web-page host made the photos so fucking big. god, that second one is like a whole screenful of tit. maybe I'll go see him and play with the images and the site design when I get back in september. I know he won't do it himself. he just wants to see the goods and can't be bothered with the rest. but he sends me nice email and I am a sucker for that. waffleboy - I guess at this point I would qualify as both an exhibitionist and a narcissist. I am trying to think of the worst possible consequences of posting such pictures on the web. ok, they may be stuck on my door at work someday. I can't run for public office. my conservative (read: rich) husband could find out and get pissed. but I don't want to be in a position where any of that would ever matter. maybe I should get stoned and look at them and see if I start feeling ashamed and embarrassed.

"I guess at this point I would qualify as both an exhibitionist and a narcissist." We have something in common. I only feel shame when I walk by the church down the block. tht thing is, you know you are not embarrassed, you know you are not ashamed, you know you are a "hottie" and thats why you are indeed an exhibitionist and a narcissist. You like to post pictures to confirm what you already know. Am I that far offbase? If I am ,verbal assaults and hate mail will do the trick.

ahh fuck you, you ass.

thanks, i feel better already

may i please have another sir!

fuck you, you ass. nice photos by the way, waffles.

your kind, ima slut, and a screenful o'tit ain't a bad thing

by the way Cyst, is the Centre Pompideau open (pardon my french, pun intended)? I have heard it was closed for major restorations. If so have you been?

it's open. there's a robert delauney (sp?) exhibition right now. I haven't been.

When I went they had an exhibit called Le Feminine, La Masculin (pardon my frendch poun intended). Basically an exhibit about the sexes, difference, simularities. It took up two owhole floors and was unfuckin believable. Rabbits and school kids were were after the exhibit. Have you also been to the area just outside of town called La Defense? There is some amazing architecture out that way. Plus there is a path cleared to the arch de triumph where a modern version of the arc sits on this mall like area, kinda like the DC mall. Neveremind the shopping mall below the ground. Have you been to the Rodin musuem. That and the pompideu are my two of my favorite museums in th world.

I am a big fan of the musee d'orsay.

I haven't been to the pompidou or d'orsay, and I have only been to the shopping mall at la defense. I have no idea what I do with my days here. I walk around, I guess. I see movies and shop for lingerie and eat raspberry tarts and take pictures in the cemeteries. I felt better about paris after I met up with a friend here and he explained to me that it's his favorite city because of the 300 films that play here every week. he said if all you do is go and see movies, that is fine.

I post on sorabji with a view of notre dame. tonight I am going to eat mexican food.

ahh you are in the latin quarter? I stayed off Ste Michele when I was there, in view of Notre Dame. My wife studdied at the Sorbonne and she knew the area well. I really miss it, i want to go back

I'm staying on ile st. louis, just across the pedestrian bridge from notre dame. sometimes I walk over to st. michel to get 25 franc lamb sandwiches with fries. lately I've just stayed on the islands and the right bank, though. today I watched the eclipse on the island and then went to the marais for a chicken sandwich and ice cream. then I shopped for shoelaces (connaissez-vous ou sont les lacets pour les chaussures?) and a non-lacy garter belt. I found shoelaces. I also went to the post office. my tourist life has become dull and I don't even want to go to istanbul on friday but I have to go somewhere, do something. I may go back to kiev via bulgaria and romania, but I'm not very excited about it. when I try to think of something I really want to do, I imagine myself walking around downtown portland on a cloudy fall weekday wearing a black sweater, a gray wool skirt and shiny new boots. yesterday I had a nice time in galeries lafayette. everything is so nice there. I bought a burgundy velvet scarf, which I am wearing now. I watched a beautiful young dark-haired french girl, she was as slight as a whisper, try on a long red velvet dress that was drapy around her neck and feet but tight everywhere else. she stood on a little stepchair and was looking at herself in a gold-framed mirror. I looked at lots of dresses and told myself that my future is too uncertain to go buying any more little dresses.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I lost my flower at the tender age of 13... i did it 5 times that year.. the first time it was boring, the second time was alright. and the last 3 were pretty fun, but its really not all THAT great.. That was 2 years ago... memories... I decided to stop doing that stuff though. i decided i wanted sex to be something more meaningful, i expect it to be a lot more fun when it has meaning... ummmmmmm, HI MOM!!!

it's especially meaningful when you beat yourself off in drafting class, i've found.

Want a tip on getting laid? Be funny. The fastest way to a woman's heart and her pants is humor. Out of all my male friends, the ones who could make 'em laugh got the proverbial leg over way more than the strong but silent types (who were actually better-looking.) Except for this one dude, who was boring as piss and looked the same, but for some reason, got laid all the time. We used to joke that he "bored" them into bed. "Oh for chrissake, do me already and shutup!"

What happrened between August & May - Nobody get laid in the USofA I suggest you all come over to London England for a road test. If you are any good we will let you go home and try a little practise . xx

Right then. We'll all be over tomorrow. What's your address so we can all crash at your flat? And be a dear and don't forget to stock up on the tea and crumpets and condoms and k-y, there's a good lad.

Ditto!!!

I've been wondering. If I wanted to keep a guy around just to do sexual things with and not have to feel any mutual obligation towards each other, would I be a slut?

no. a queen. tell me you love the taste of cum. tell me tell me.

sexual liberty and independence is a good thing. queen indeed

If neither of you feel mutual obligation? A queen.

that's the first smile I've had all day. now I just need to find the boy. I think my only rules are that he not tell the whole world what we're up to, and that he likes to try new things. Beyond that, I'm not picky.

damn!

since I'm...unable to send flowers to just pixels on a screen... (we've been through all that)...I'd say go for some one with some experience - someone who knows how to treat a woman wonderfully, fairly, respectfully, and with flowers, cards, trips, and someone who is fun, a little mysterious, has a clean bill of health, and papers to prove it, and a vasectomy... and who will agree in advance to leave you the hell alone when you want that...you know, discretion is nine tenths here... and then remember you are entitled (as a sorabjite) for all the free counseling you want (and will need probably). Remember, some acne faced drunk boy in a Motel 66 isn't the thing...go for the Ritz Carlton and the place in the Carribean...and be very, very picky. find someone with slow hands and quick wit, and easily and wonderfully humorous...Remember, free counseling...even tho you guys blast me for being the crazy therapist in the Missouri woods...;}

"and who will agree in advance to leave you the hell alone when you want that" Oh yes. That, I believe, is the single most important quality a man can have. That, and a thick skin. So when you tell him to leave you the hell alone, he doesn't pull any of that "oh! I'm so wounded!" garbage. How pathetic.

"LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE!" "great, hon, Monday Nitro is coming on anyway." Bliss.

passion, guts, good teeth, looks, compassion, understanding, sense of humor. This from the (ah) long legged blonde runner I work with. Added attributes: strong back to move furniture or plow the garden, good eyesight to read the fine print, social skills and ease (i.e., can carry on conversations with vendors in the south of Turkey,) not be shy or bashful, intuitive and doesn't laugh when I am...and loves the light in Tuscan paintings. Must also have an Arkansas weather stone, so when the tornado is a coming up the valley, "LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE!" takes on a courageous and emphatic meaning to which I may respond...

I think vasectomy is the key word,I wish I,d have thought about that.

somebody screw me

Go invest in a pyramid scheme, that ought to do it.

I have some prime land in Arizona that I am selling way under market value,but hurry,this offer won't last long!!!!

In the states the legal age is 16! holy shit where i live its 14!

arkansas? it is in that state

trace, i'm bored. do you have yahoo messenger ro something like that?

I love to see new love bloom. Makes me feel all warm and gooey.

i have lots of gooey.

I bet you have lots of spunky too, goorat.

hey rob, i got one thing to say fuck all those ppl, if you got a chance to fuck, take it, when i as 14, i was getting a piece every saturday night, but if you do just be sure to use a codnum. and how to go about it, just whene you two are alone, i would just kiss her, and if anything is going to happen, it will just hapen, you will just know what to do, its hard to explain, but it will come to you, as you go. good luck

"manmustard"? nate? thats beautiful! "it's especially meaningful when you beat yourself off in drafting class, i've found" *GASP!!!* AGATHA!!!!! what an awesome thread. any tips on getting laid in 2002/03? anyone?

why did i write that?

because you rule! the same way cyst ruled by showing her racey pics. *the link died dammit!*

raise your hand if you ever beat off to cyst's pics

'codnum'? I have tears in my eyes from laughing at this thread. Well bits of it.

eew!

scroll down to an ALL CAPS POST by "Lamskin" to see why agatha wrote that..maybe

then there was the time i did it when i was working at my last job as a gopher at the big architectural firm. i was sitting at a computer desk surrounded by a bunch of CAD geeks. nobody noticed... or if they did, nobody had the guts to say anything to me about it. SARAH!!!! that wasn't really you, was it?

haha CAD geeks.

shut up nate haha codeR geeks

are you guys kiding this kids 14 and you dont think he should be thinking about getting laid wow im 23 in 2 weeks and I got my first blowjob when I was 8 hell thats almost half his age I couldnt bust a nut but I do remember having some kind of orgasm. my advise is to have sex if you want to but be protected from disease you dont want that! but I agree you should have sex with a girl friend that you have feelings for if thats possible for somebody your age always treat women with respect and if you think some are whores dont add that disrespect to the fire just keep it to your self and the women will love Ya!

get her drunk n fuck her

ad if that don't work beat her silly with your wing wang wingity wing wang. shit yeah ps. anal.

I like anal.

who doesn't. is it just me or are there names showing up on threads where they hadn't posted

gremlins!

It's just you, Droopbuns. You have to be punished for being away.

No,you are real lucky to get Droopy back,good guys are hard to get.

I never had Droopy, alas.

...come on,nows your chance.

This just seems a little odd.

damn gremlins

A little odd? where have we all been?

Gremlins give me migraines. Damned gremlins

I've noted the oddness. But I don't give a shit. At least I only give a shit enough to say I don't.

I want pussy!!! I want pussy!!! And Big boobs!!! All in one girl!!! Oh yeah!!! Come find me and suck my cock!!! I want a girl with big boobs, nice lips, a good pussy, and a nice ass!!!! And will fuck me when I want to be fucked!!! Thats my dream girl!!!

Excessive exclamation points are such a turn off.

first of all u r 2 fuckin young ,second of all u need to be as hot as me 2 get laid!!!!!!!!!!! u could try to blowing urself or jacking off on some pictures or websites.....i can help u find a girl who isn't a prostitute but will service u just fine(no charge).. her name is Sandra n lives in Lebanon.. all u have to do it call her and provide her with an airline ticket!! her number is 009615410019..Enjoy!

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funny thread. photography...crusty undergarments...CAD geeks... "loading a topic about sex and getting a discussion on hand soap or something is pretty funny" "By agatha on Monday, May 15, 2000 - 04:50 pm: it's especially meaningful when you beat yourself off in drafting class, i've found." haha.

Jack, why must you keep bringing us back to drafting class?

this time, the pimp made me do it.

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