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By Jim aka PajamaBoy on Thursday, June 18, 1998 - 11:57 am: |
My first such experience was when I was probably 8 or 9 years old. I was with family friends on a vacation to the Mountains of West By God Virginia. As we were out walking one day in a place I had NEVER been before, I suddenly had the urge to have to relieve myself. And without asking managed to find my way to the nearest facility. As I was walking to it I vividly saw the path to the restroom in my head. |
By Antigone on Thursday, June 18, 1998 - 02:20 pm: |
I had a dream about a school building. I was trying to get in, but I couldn't. So, I climbed up to the roof and got in that way. The dream was pretty vivid, and I remembered the details of how I got in, what the building looked like, etc. Three weeks later I took a trip to California, the bay area. I visited Berkeley because I was (still am) interested in applying for a PhD in CS and I'd never seen the campus before. The engineering building looked remarkably like the building from my dream. Uncanny. I walked around in a serious deja vu trip. |
By Cobalt on Monday, July 27, 1998 - 10:43 pm: |
I've had a few. Places I drive by in other states (Vermont) on vacation, schools (New York, Mass) that I've never been to until I go to get paid to judge debates, little-used tunnels in my own school that I'd find the next day. It's freaky. To be walking down stairs in some foreign school and suddenly know exactly where you are because the ceiling is sloping a specific way and is colored in the terrible 1960s orange and blue scheme you thought only unrefrigerated soy milk could cause in dreams... |
The point at which I made the connection between deja vu and my dreams as about 10 years ago, when we were visiting the USA. My brother and I were sitting in a room with a large window, through which a mountain could be seen. We were talking to a native american man with long braids about what kind of pizza we wanted for tea. I kid you not, this exact scene was repeated from a dream I had about three years previously, and I remembered waking up and thinking "wow, what a weird dream". My latest dream was on Friday night. I was in a house we had just bought, having moved from our current house because it was too small. I was really happy about the house, and pictured the rooms so clearly that when I woke up I was able to draw a floor plan out of the rooms I had seen. I think if it is going to come true, it will not be for at least a couple of years, as the context suggests we had started a family and that was why we needed the space. |
Maybe I'd heard something about ppl negotiating to develop the area and my mind just filled in the blanks? Only reason I can think of to explain it. |
You might have a dream in which you are in an unknown city, and you "remember" that around a particular corner is a certain landmark, even though you've never dreamt about the landmark before. Or you might "remember" that the last time you were in that city you did something in particular, but really, you have never dreamt about that city before. Is this a common dream experience? Maybe the area in the brain responsible for memory is activated in dream-states, so you have the sensation of remembering without the memory? I had a dream last night in which I was sailing in a boat on a lake, and in the dream I "knew" that this lake had a reputation for the terrible storms that would develop over it. But I had never dreamt about the lake before, and no one in the dream mentioned the reputation. That also makes me think of the phenomenon of recurring themes. Since I was a child I have had nightmares about losing my teeth. The dreams are all different, but the theme is the same. Another theme is having to hide from someone who's chasing me. My roommate used to have recurring dreams about tidal waves. Now *I'm* having dreams about big waves and storms at sea, which I've never dreamt about before. It's interesting. |
as i recall, dreams of tidal waves are indicative of unrequited lust, overflowing sexual energy. Actually, im not positive on that but I seem to have a 'memory' of reading such. hrmmmmm i'll check tonight. seriously though... is the fact that you *remember* in a dream any more significant than the the notion that you are somewhere you arent? Im not sure. If my brain has the ability to fool itself, disturb me physically (peeing on yourself, sleepwalking-talking etc) it seems creating a 'memory' is par for the course no? I don't think your experience is unusual at all. I have dreams where Im predispositioned with certain 'facts' about who Im with or where i am. Notions that seem utterly baseless in reality but certain in that world. Now if only we could find a way to record our dreams bedside for review.....mine are almost always forgotten by *looks at clock* now. |
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I'm interested in memory in dreams because it seems to be a neglected topic. You could make the argument that *everything* in a dream is a memory -- you can dream about eating a steak, and actually taste the steak in the dream, because you are remembering the taste...etc. But to actually dream *about* remembering...that's something more. |
she doesnt sleep for shit these days because she worries way too much and carries undue burden on her shoulders. Im actually at a loss as to how to help her. But too often when i kiss her goodbye in the morning she complains about being up all night. About the lake spider....what is more significant about remembering a fact about said lake anymore than the lake itself? The lake was a figment, so was the memory? Im trying to understand your fascination here. Hopefully Im not being dense. |
When I was on a particular medication in college, I would sleep like a log -- nine hours straight, no waking, no dreams. I didn't like it. |
Whenever I dream about losing my teeth, I never remember that I've dreamt about teeth before, or that it's just a dream, or whatever. In the dream, it's like I'm experiencing it for the first time. In the same dream, though, I might come across a door, and I "remember" that the last time I opened the door I saw XYZ, though I've never actually seen the door before. |
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Let me ask you this....do you remember all of your dreams? Is it possible the 'memory' could be from dreams not remembered but you had regardless? Impossible to answer i know. |
I don't think all rules are off in the dreamworld....it's your same brain regardless of what state you're in. On the contrary, if we could prove that the deja vu sensation comes from the memory region in the brain getting indirectly activated, maybe we could theorize that that is what's going on when you feel deja vu while awake. You can't predict when you'll feel it while awake, but you can make someone like me sleep in a sleep lab for a month and wait for a dream. |
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Ypsilanti. He grabbed the waitress' bottom, got escorted out theback, and wne t around front, paid teh cover, and came to ask if we were coming, except he got hustled out again so fast we couldn't answer, so we stayed for the next dance. |
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I get dreams all the time that connects with what happens the next day. It could be a dream about my kitchen light turning off and my landlord doing some work in my apartment then the next day my kitchen light was off because my landlord did something with the fuse box. Another recent dream was about this cheap ring that supposedly my boyfriend gave me, and the next day in real world I go shopping with my friend and she finds a ring by my feet. It was fake and she decided to keep it. Gosh, what could all this mean? My sister tells me all the time, maybe some day you'll dream about something big and important. I get offended because I don't think this happens to everyone. Can someone tell me how common these connections are? |
Check out blindsight. |
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I'd completely forgotten the dream, but I remembered it then. It's like the way I remember previous dreams while dreaming of the same "place" again, except this time it happened in real life. It wasn't quite as striking as the incident I posted about above, and the feeling was only fleeting, but it was definately of the same flavor. |
Sort of makes you wonder about the other dreams, though. Perhaps I WILL become friends with Joan Jett. |
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except for deja vu: centerfolds, which makes me think how funny it is that I can walk three blocks from work and have some 18 yr old rub her dirtbox in my grill. |
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don't be afraid to call the shit poo. |
Sometimes i see things as a memory, but years before they happen. The first time i remember it was me sitting at a strange desk reading a very specific website. The second time it was me tearing down some old cupboards. Years later... they both happened!!! OMG this information could change the world!!! nope. It's useless. |
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Ever since I can remember I've had deja vu's in which I knew the future for 5 - 10 seconds, but this is quite new, just knowing the future! I was wondering if anyone could help me out on what might be going on? |
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Anyway, I go to fark.com a lot and there's an ad link right off the front page. |
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are you serious about the second picture? blue eyeliner and hot pink lipstick? and three inch roots? ew |
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Why, I can feel his horney tail poking me in the eye, and his little cloven hooves, dancing a jig on my tooter. |
And look on the bright side, it's better to have a devil dancing on your tooter, then your hooters (cuz that can just be painful). BTW, isn't deja vu when you have something happen in life that has happened before? You feel something that you felt before? So would it be deja vu if you had a weird assed dream and then assumed it would come true? I mean, it was within a dream, not reality, so does it even qualify as deja vu or is it just someone in need of some mood altering substances? |
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m'kay, on the subject of pics of women on the internet I find most hot: linky There's not a pic on the internet of the woman I'm seeing now, otherwise I'd post it. :) |
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I am not attracted to anyone. haven't been for quite some time. I think this one fellow at work is really cute, but that's kind of like thinking a puppy is cute. I haven't felt any phsyical pull to anyone in a long white. |
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There's a man at my school, the middle school counselor....I sigh over him. He's got a great last name. I have his son in my fourth grade class, and his son is cool. And he's got a daughter named Malia (accent on 2nd syllable), which is also cool, and she wears big poofy fairy-princess dresses to church, which is great. His wife is in my beading class, and she's funny, so yeah, this guy just rocks all around. Such good taste. And he's so handsome. Sigh. |
(notsorryeverybody.com) there is the right wing monopoly on hope and optimism again. what the fuck. what the FUCK. and that fucking map. 2% difference between kerry and bush. what a mandate. |
See, it's times like these when people's true character comes out. It's not very Christlike to gloat and rub salt in people's wounds, now is it? |
I think I will stick with the cute liberals, thanks. |
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