there is no governor anywhere,we are all absolutly free

Late, but germane to the above discussion (By Liquidtruth on Thursday, March 5, 1998 - 01:09 pm): "For many years I have had a sleep disorder known as sleep paralysis, which is fairly common, I've been assured by doctors. In my case, it seems to be triggered by excess fatigue or excess chemical stimulation, such as when I drink coffee late in the day. I had the problem most severely when I was in college and drinking coffee as a way to stay awake and study. I usually have what is called sleep-onset sleep paralysis. As I am drifting off to sleep, I suddenly lose the ability to move. It literally happens in a snap - sudden, complete atonia of the muscles....When paralyzed, I can't open my eyes or lift a finger. Alarmingly, I'm still conscious. It's particularly troubling on a plane, a train, or a bus, because I can hear people talking around me but cannot move, and may have well been zapped by a paralytic raygun. Sometimes I have trouble breathing. To stop these attacks, i have to shake myself awake by moving my legs as best I can. The whole thing is quite disturbing....The doctors said my on-off switch for waking and dreaming isn't quite normal. My body thinks it needs to go into the dream state--and the muscles become atonic--before the brain is fully asleep. (One thing that I learned is that when a person dreams, his or her body is paralyzed, an ancient adaptation meant to prevent a person from acting out the particulars of a dream. Sleepwalkers have a defect in that system). "Making the situation all the odder is that during the paralysis it is common for a person to experience auditory or visual hallucinations. I've never seen anything--no alien sightings--but I've had auditory hallucinations of people entering my house or coming into the room. THere is also the sense that the paralysis is caused by these intruders. It is hard during the paralytic experience to keep the neurological cause in mind. Rather it seems that some Other, some Entity, is doing it. In past centuries these entities were assumed to be spirits, such as succubi or incubi. In our day and age they are assumed to be aliens." --Joel Achenbach, Captured by Aliens

I dont do any thing to have lucd dreams i jus have them and i dont think that there are dream guide's or spirits guids I think people who have lucid dream are people who have been able to touch a relm that other people can't reach. a relm that is protected by people who have the abilyty to have lucid dreams but don't know it. and i belive that theres a higher relm of beengs that control our dreams and yous these unowing lucid dreamers to cotrol the dream world. try lelling some in your dream that thay are allso dreaming see what happends. when ever i tell some one in my dream that thay are allso dreaming these people who i call the dream keepers or agents come after me and try to wake me up. give it a try