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The Jeep Liberty, however . . . According to Motor Trend, it is a worthy successor to the late Cherokee. |
i thought the santa fe was targeted at picky hitchhikers. |
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consumers are finding themselves empowered with the typical americano rugged sense of independence these machines offer. I suspect it is designed more for trips to the mall and soccer practice than it is for off roading, but the image the manufacture portrays.....well...i don't need to spell it out. I just wish I had a billy club of sense and logic for every SUVdriver. This machine appears to be an SUV-lite, like those Honda CRVs and Toyota...shit what are they called....uhhhh...anyway..they look like Suzuki Samari's and we know what utter failures those lunch boxes were. |
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Who cares where SUVs are made, that wasn't my point. America has a history of a notion called "Manifest Destiny"...in the 1800's it involved brutal expansion through out the America west, it was and still is, in my mind a sense of entitlement and independence. This is a cornerstone in american culture...Our cars symbolize who we THINK we are. Our cars are symbols and extensions of our perceptions....and SUVs do nothing more than fuel that desire for independence. Thats why every god damn SUV commercial depicts some sort of off-roading. "Going where no man has gone before!" They rarely correctly depict the soccer mom who can barely see over the steering wheel much less the poor VW she just rolled over to her left racing down city streets to the grocery store, yoga class, starbucks and then soccer practice. They rarely depict the one driver in every one of these big assed fuckers, they always depict a family. Next time you are in traffic, notice all the SUVs and take an average of how many people are in one at any given time. Its this false sense of entitlement that drives me nuts. No sense of community or regard for consequences..me me me. (enter rant) In my neighborhood, they recently made a strip of Silverlake Blvd. permit parking. Meaning, you cant park on the street unless you have a permit purchased from the city, and this applies usually after 6pm, until dawn. My neighborhood is booming, however this local legislation was sponsored by the homeowners, and was reprimanded by the one establishment it inevitably saught to hurt, Spaceland. Spaceland has been a local disco (80s) and now its a hot trendy hipster joint that features decent local and international acts. Anyway the neighbors were tired of the 2 am noise so they pushed to have the streets permited. There is no where else to park. Home owners complain they have no place to park their cars in the evenings with out these permits....this has never been a problem until the neighborhood started getting popular. (Funny how all the problems start when the whites come to town, when my neighborhood was predominatly gay and latino, there were never issues like this) I spoke with a homeowner recently and she was like, well we only have a one car garage, and i understand why homeowners would support this. I asked her when she bought her house, was there any gurantee of public parking, meaning, did her contract include a portion of the street? She said of course not. And I responded, fuck you and your sense of entitlement. when you buy a house you are entitled the the square land and the facilities on it, NOT the streets around it. My tax dollars pay for those roads like any other. But inessence the neighborhood now owns the road. West Hollywood does this, Melrose does this and now Silverlake, all because of bitchy ass homeowners with this false sense of entitlement. All it does is drive consumers and patrons away, so they can get their quiet ass neighborhood. Nevermind these people live within 2 miles of downtown #2 largest city in America. if they want peace and parking, they should go to the fucking suburbs. (end rant) |
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Anyone been peering at the autoshow coverage? Some funky shit there. What you need, trace, is that new ford 49. |
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I hope he's remembering to breathe. |
Otherwise, get an economy car or a minivan like every other fucking person on the road. |
And who the hell is ... ? What the fuck are you all talking about, remembering to breath and shit, what the hell? |
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wow I would like to try in one of these |
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i also used to race people on hwy 1 between bodega bay and jenner. |
On the other hand, humvees are damn versatile. There are so many variations on the basic theme. |
the vibration thing just doesn't produce the results its hyped up to be. Perhaps a nice vibrating device, alternating with the mouth play could produce more proof positive results for the famed hummer. |
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it's cheap, old, beautiful, runs perfectly and it found me [not the car sarah mentioned btw, that one belongs to my grandmother and it scares me a little] |
I drive a 1969 VW Bug, black with all original parts except the stero. Hey, gotta have some good music right? I've had sex in it a couple times, it can be tricky but its not that hard if you do it right. And hell the girl I had sex with was a 6'4" redhead, so it wasn't an economy car built for someone her size. |
I'm heartily sorry. I won't do it ever ever again, until tomorrow. I still have a mini minor in my garage because when I got rich enough to get a grown up car, I couldn't let my pretty mini go. If I'd bonked on her hood under the light of the Southern Cross in the Blue Mountains, I wouldn't tell anyway. I'm not that kind of girl. This not being a smartass sucks. It's really really hard not being able to ask Hal if he was sure it was a girl he was fucking and not an airbag. |
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inertia. you can stop quicker. |
i think you're talking about momentum. |
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i'm proud of you, trace. |
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trace, there must be something wrong with that mercedes. it should be at least $22K. i drive a 2000 ford ranger. |
I like the Corolla much better. |
1994 Mercedes-Benz C-Class C280 Sedan 4D Engine: 6-Cyl. 2.8 Liter Trans: Automatic Drive: Rear Wheel Drive Mileage: 58,000 Equipment Air Conditioning Power Steering Power Windows Power Door Locks Cruise Control AM/FM Stereo Cassette Premium Sound Dual Air Bags ABS (4-Wheel) Dual Power Seats Sliding Sun Roof Alloy Wheels Retail Value $19,845 According to Kelley Blue Book, anyway. NADA Says: Body Style: Sedan 4 Door C280 Model Number: HA28 Weight: 3,293 Acceptable Mileage Range: 80,001 - 90,000 Average Trade-In: $14,300 Average Retail: $16,975 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's what they say anyway |
anyway..WAY TO GO Trace....as far as the legroom....maybe a civic or jetta would serve you better....i can vouch for the durability of Hondas and VW has always made a decent car...but Toyotas are alright too. if i had a little one to tote around...id look at the Jettas or 4 door civics...but while im 1/2 of a jet settin 20 something couple...the 2 door coupe is super. yeah dave i hear man...im the same way...i don't trust anyone else on the road....I always stay clear of large vehicles when on the highway...and id rather have one rear end me, as one who rear ends another is almost always at fault. on the streets in my neighborhood, some of them being quite tight, i love making soccer moms and small-dicked egoist gangsters shit their shorts....the streets are narrow but they have a clear partition down the middle from the concrete slabs. I always stay on my side...so when i am approaching an SUV coming the other way, naturally they freak because it appears we can't pass at the same time, with parked cars on both sides...but some get ballsy, and try anyway, other bail out and pull in between parked cars. Im begging one day to be side scrapped by these pricks just so i can get out of the car, point out that Im on my side of the road and that they can suck shit for driving such a big assed cars....and of course skyrocket their already healthy insurance rates. |
1994 Mercedes-Benz C-Class C280 Sedan 4D Engine: 6-Cyl. 2.8 Liter Trans: Automatic Drive: Rear Wheel Drive Mileage: 58,000 Equipment Air Conditioning Power Steering Power Windows Power Door Locks Cruise Control AM/FM Stereo Cassette Premium Sound Dual Air Bags ABS (4-Wheel) Dual Power Seats Sliding Sun Roof Alloy Wheels Retail Value $22,270 |
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is that LA metro-power smugness, or something else? |
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Both A. and my Mom were hit. A. yesterday, my Mom today. Now we're in a state of emergency, so funds can be diverted so that the state government can start dealing in engergy itself. Out of state natural gas suppliers (we have very few in state) have begun 86'ing PG&E, which is now down to junk status. Apparently PG&E has a billion dollar bill due in Feb., with about 500 million to pay it with. |
And then the HIPPIES. Unh unh, we should have gone to solar power years ago. (photovoltaic cells cost about $0.30 per kWh, or 600% of the rate californians are crying about now.) Unh unh, nuclear power is evil. unh unh, pass the bubbler and try not to piss on your fucking birks when you're out in the woods kissing your treefriends. |
hey nate, if you have 5 minutes give this a read http://www.newtimesla.com/issues/2001-01-11/stewart.html id like to know what you think... |
if they were effective, they'd be on every roof in california. as for the article, i agree with some of it. geothermal heat pumps are neat. GHP is nearly 50% more effcient than a gas furnace. what wasn't mentioned, though, was nuclear power. which irks me. |
"if they were effective, they'd be on every roof in california." electric cars are effective yet know one drives them. i don't buy that. i do believe the large fossile fuel companies do keep certain products from hitting the shelves, and I do believe lobbiest for large companies, say like GE who I believe keep lawmakers from implementing smart plans..such as GHP....or the light panels they mention in the article. Imagine if every public bldg built from here on out utilized such tehcnology. Imagine if cities passed codes that demanded houses built after a certain date used such technology... granted to truly be effective, certain measures need to happen now...but one of the biggest truths in her article is that no one is talking about long term sensible solutions, but rather short term bailouts for the "bankrupt" energy co. |
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hmmmph. |
the toxic waste arguement is flawed. all energy generation has a negative byproduct. Nuclear energy generation just happens to have one that is easy to contain and store. solar panels are readily available. you see them here and there. if they were cost effective, they would be everywhere. the truth is, you have to be a hippie with some money to be able to help the environment in that way. electric cars... don't get me started. the petroleum industry has a strong hold on america. Tesla devised a highly efficient steam engine that we could all be using right now. Cheaply, with less energy. detroit could be putting out cars that get 100 mpg. but no. shit. fuck. dave, it is the generators. and the natural gas providers. |
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Home fuel cells 'nuff said... |
From the page: Because power is generated through an electro-chemical rather than a combustion (burning) process, fuel cells also are environmentally sound. With electrical efficiencies of about 40%, PEM fuel cell systems conserve more fossil fuels than traditional power generation sources. Additionally, the heat produced by the fuel cell system can be recaptured and utilized in water or space heating applications in the home, increasing the efficiency to near 80%. Fuel cells produce no NOx or SOx, and emit only one-half of the carbon dioxide given off in traditional generation. |
You read it right. 80% efficiency. |
purefuckingevil. |
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exactly nate, plants DO have to shut down....and my point exactly is that since the plants are now privatized, many won't reopen because they aren't considered profitable by the FOR-profit corporations. If they were state run not-for profit plants...the profit issue wouldn't be so much of a concern. "i have trouble seeing an individual power plant operator losing out on a day's profit. especially when profit margins are so high." is it just me or am i reading this right? You mean you empathize when a private plants looses money? moreover a LOT of money? gas, water, electricity, these are not items that should be on the open market for a capitialist society. These effect everyone, they can determin ewhether a society will survive. these should be state regulated monopolies, and not-for-profit institutions....i wouldnt not be surprised AT ALL if there was some accuracy in Dave's theory that the evil corpo execs have facilitated this whole damn thing for profit. What are the negative by products from fuel cells or GHP or solar power? Im not sure toxic waste is easy to store and contain. That shit doesnt go away for hundreds of years and the sheer potential for catastrophe makes any sensible argument about toxic waste nearly null and void. Furthermore, we have been shown time and time again, corporations and the government cannot be manage waste properly. So putting all your marbles in nuclear energye, hell ANYTHING nuclear for that matter, be it weapons or submarines...the potential for global disaster is too risky. Don't talk to me about efficiency with such a gamble. |
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"is it just me or am i reading this right? You mean you empathize when a private plants looses money? moreover a LOT of money? " not at all. i don't see a private individual shutting down his own plant and losing a day's income. if there is a run on pokemon cards and only you and one other guy in town sell them, you're not going to close your store for a day so that your competition can enjoy artificially inflated pricing. you have a lot of media-induced fear of nuclear meltdown. you could have a meltdown every 20 years and still damage the overall environment less than the current industry is damaging the environment today. both france and japan are successful utilizers of nuclear energy. we're going to left behind. |
Basically, a fuel cell combines hydrogen and oxygen, making water (the main chemical byproduct) and captures electricity released in the process. The cool thing is that the source of hydrogen can be common hydrocarbons already used: natural gas, alcohol, and even gasoline. Of course, the best source is pure hydrogen, but there isn't a good infrastructure present now for distributing it. It's the best compromise out there for producing electricity. It uses the petro industry's products, but in a far more efficient way. They're environmentally friendly. (If run with pure hydrogen, the only emission is WATER.) It's basically a win for just about everybody, and that's why their adoption is inevitable, I think. |
i haev heard reports that the major petroleum co. are starting to research and invest in alternative fuel sources..realizing (FINALLY!! HELLO!?!?!) that oil won't last forever and its getting more and more difficult to tap oil reserves due to environmental concerns. Did you see the bit on Niteline last night about the US Intelligencia and how water and the lack their of in Northern Africa and the Mid east could be our next disaster. The lack of it and the fight to control the Tigris, Euphrates and the Nile rivers could be the next trigger for regional war, in which the US gets involved...being friends of Egypt, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Pretty fascinating |
The waste from nuclear reactors isn't as dangerous as we've been led to believe by the environmental movement. See this page. And my grandfather told me that the average coal based power plant releases as much environmental radiaion each year as the worst accident at Three Mile Island. |
nonetheless..i don't think nuclear energy is the ideal long term be all end all solution to the energy problem.....regardless, ther eis still potential for catastrophe with nuclear energy. Cherynobl can happen anywhere...tell them "its not as bad as the media says" |
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Cherynobl couldn't happen anywhere. The Cherynobl meltdown would not have occurred at any modern US nuclear powerplant. Three Mile Island, either. Modern US (and, I assume, French and Japanese) nuclear powerplants have double containment. If Chreynobl had the same, the disaster would have never happened. |
oh and my step-grandpa was a nuclear engineer as well in Oakridge Tennessee, he retired recently, but worked from the Manhatten project since. Calling Cherynobl a red herring is utterly naive...as the impact of that catastrophe can be felt as far away as Siberia. Fallout from Nevada can effect the east coast.....its utterly irresponsible to deny the potential impact one countries energy production can have on the world. A meltdown on the otherside of the world can't have an effect on the entire planet. Im sorry but as long as a nuclear energy exists there is a potential. Russia has a lost a handful of nuclear subs, never to be retrieved....our own gov't has lost several warheads during training here in our backyard... And of course a dam bust could cause a catastrophe which is why I argue we should try and move away from these ninteenth century relics of enegry production. We are already seeing dams become less effective due to low ice packs. Do you guys like playin bones? dominoes? i swear we should, as old men, get together around the card table, and harp on these same issues over some southern comfort until we fall over piss drunk....thats how i want to get old |
Anyway, the problem I see with many environmentalists, when it comes to the nuclear issue, is that they make claims from a completely uneducated standpoint and usually won't listen at all when their view is contradicted by facts. (Not talking about you in particular, partick. :-) ) And the trend seems to be for them to object to just about any power generation method except for the unfeasable ones, like wind and solar power. Personally, I'm really excited about the fuel cell. The benefits are enormous. With a fuel cell centric power generation system we could ditch the idea of centralized power plants alltogether. Every business and home could have it's own generator, or generators could be spread evenly through an urban area. Excess power could be diverted to the grid, or better yet, not generated at all. This system would be highly fault tolerant and efficient. |
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its kinda like the car & petroleum industry should my matter, anti matter "beam me up" device become a success. so what about dominos? |
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Cambridge Online Dictionary now sure, hydrogen is a natural resource....but i think you know what i am referring to when i say fossil fuel stegmasaurus bonz baby! |
Just one click away, waffle brain! :-P |
I still am wondering why health clubs don't have some way to harnass all the energy expended on their cardio machines and store it as electricity... |
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electricity and water (and possibly even fossil fuels) should never be free market commodities. ever. i'm not saying they should be free, just that they shouldn't be included in the supply and demand price leveraging. it infuriates me that some small group of people are getting fat off of this. |
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you want to spearhead the US cultural revolution? |
you know dave, this is just nate's way of expressing his desires for...you know...assplay. maybe you could jet get agatha to consent and get it over with.... |
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www.sorabj.com - chicken soup for the ass. |
happens... And, yet, now I realize that methane is an excellent power source... VIVA LA ASS!! |
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i posed your question nate " do we have a right to electricity?" YES! we do. in a capitolist, democratic society, the gov't has an obligation to provide the basics, such as food water air and opportunity. we cannot be a part of their machine if we have don't have the basics. also your whine about the hippies...... in general, we need the hippies to counter balance the religious yahoos on the other end. and then there are the rest of us in the middle...who actually think. whats next, they want to deregulate the water industry? and i want to reiterate...nuclear energy...it has been proven time and time again, corporations and gov'ts can't handle the responsibility that comes with it. these blackouts are bullshit, and the corpoate ceo pigs who are forcing the grid down should be hung by their balls. |
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i appreciate angry sam's ability to think, however i think a discussion with him would be better served face to face, over a couple bottles of bourbon. |
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thats exactly what we were doing nate...finding out my gallery show, (HIS gallery show as well) was bombed 5 days before, i called in sick, packed my back pack walked a mile to sams house with a 5th of Jim Beam and two liter. I was passed out by 4 on his couch. |
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its a kick in the nuts for 7 artists, a band and a dj....the show was this sturday, we had press in local rags, people coming in from out of town.....trying to put a publcity machine in reverse...being told that 6 months of work (not in vain mind you) will not be able to be shwon 5 days prior....its all a kick in the nuts... J i got a phone number for you if you want. |
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yeah thanks nate...everyone is extremely depressed about it. angry same recently had his screenplay rejected by some asshole germans who had been leading him on for 5 months with 1 million dollars.....it had been casted, Adam Goldberg (the jewish cuy in Private Ryan) and Julie Delpy (the cutie in Killing Zoe).....hads signed letters of intent. One of the producers (she also produced American History X) was about to set the production schedule, after countless rewrites..they pulled out....angrysam said "well at least i have the gallery show" and now this...... im worried about him. He's been gettign kicked in the nuts by hollywood for way too long. And everything always comes back to money. Had we paid and secured a gallery space as opposed to relying on a verbal contract....we wouldnt be screwed right now. |
ahhh, fuck off antigone. |
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