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This is one sick case. The question is, are the owners responsible, or is it all the gay communities fault? |
The only significance of being gay in this case is in terms of benefits the surviving partner is entitled. We did a cover story on this almost a year ago (the issue bombed as most gays and lesbians could give a rats ass about political issues these days). The woman's partner was/is fighting for benefits that most are entitled to when their spouse die. This, though, has little to no bearing on whether those fuckheads are responsible for their dog. |
I agree that throwing in the lesbian/gay factor has jack shit to do with the case and was out of line. It doesn't show motive for the dogs to kill the woman, so why should it have been brought up at all. Poor taste on the part of the defense attorney. |
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The whole gay angle is laughable, and the defense attorney will go down in the annals of lawyerdom as one of the biggest buffoons of all time. San Francisco has a tendency to make mountains out of mole hills, but this one really takes the cake. The fact that these 2 lawyers tried to shift blame on the victim should sit pretty sourly with the jury. They're both going to get the max. Honestly, I wasn't even offended when the whole gay angle reared its ugly head. Its just too bizarre. |
Actually, I feel that reports filed but not necessarily followed up on does equal warning, and the living conditions of the animals, the speculation about sexual abuse to the animals and the fact that the owners didn't do anything, I think that speaks for itself. A woman is dead. It doesn't matter if she is gay or straight, or good or evil, or right or wrong, because she is dead and nothing else she has ever done is relevant. The whole gay card was ridiculous. I mean, if it had been someone I knew and cared about that was killed by dogs, you can bet that I would be out protesting for the justice of my loved one. The woman's partner was completely justified in picketing. This poor womans neighbor would be justified in picketing. It has to do with justice, not gay/straight issues. I hope this defense attorney goes down in flames. I haven't heard much about the landlord or his/her role in this whole thing. I have heard that the defense attorney in this case is considering being the defense attorney of the landlord. The prosecuting attorney laughed at her and told her to go ahead and do it. There is also speculation as to who is financially responsible for the clean up and damage repair. Apparently there is a lot of damage to the building as well as a mess to clean up and it hasn't been done yet. Glad I don't live in that building! |
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2002/03/21/dogtrial.DTL |
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Unspeakably nasty, if you ask me... |
Any ideas on the sentencing? What it could be, what it probably will be? I think I saw something like she could get 10 years to life in prison and he could get something like 4 years? Maybe they will join the Aryan brotherhood with their son. Freaks |
prison. Adult adoption because they liked him so much, and wanted to take responsibility for him after he got out, and etc. In a sort-of interesting tie-in, adult adoption is also used often in the gay community, so that one partner at least has some rights towards their sig. see? i learned something by reading Rolling Stone! |
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when i first heard that story, my thought was "those poor dogs." my next thought was "that poor woman. it must have been terrifying for her." what's wrong with me? |
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If this post doesn't make much sense, I apologize because I have had two glasses of wine and am starting to get my third. MMMMMMMMMMMM wine :) |
And that the animals have private rooms,with furniture and TV's,to help them get used to living in someones home? |
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its a work for food program. |
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just like children, they are simply a product of upbringing. that is why pet owners must be held responsible for thier pet's actions, and parents must be held responsible for thier under 18 children. if the child is over 18, then the parent should at least feel partially respsonsible |
Whipple, who lived in the same apartment building as the defendants, had the key in the door and one of two grocery bags inside when the dogs attacked, testimony showed. During the mauling, the dogs, which have since been destroyed, ripped Whipple's clothes from her body, Hammer said. Officers found a naked Whipple, "her throat ripped," bleeding and crawling toward her apartment, Hammer said. Knoller did little to stop the attack or assist Whipple, he said. "Marjorie was nowhere to be seen and she didn't call 911," he said. |
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They have been bred and optimized for killing. Why have 2 in a 900 square foot apartment??? why have one? why would the landlord allow such creatures to reside in a 900 square foot apartment? The dog did what it was bred to do, trained to do do you blame the gun or the person who used it? since the defense attorney brought it up, my question is this, was the dog turned loose on the victim? or even ordered to attack????? |
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site, they specifically deny that the dog was bred for fighting. Not that I trust them. |
see the dog on that page with the freaky tiger-stripes? one of those tried to kill me when i was 5. It was running loose (it belonged to the trashy hick family next door, don't know why, they had nothing worth stealing) and came towards me,my sister and a friend of ours as we were playing in the park across the street. One of my most vivid childhood memories is trying to claw my way back up an orange tube slide, with that horrible dog at the other end, clawing and barking and trying to climb up and tear me apart. My mom saw what was happening and had to chase it down with her car until it ran off. I think she called the cops. Cat is right. All animals can be dangerous, but those things are bred insane. i hate dogs. |
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imagine that. |
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I have a sick mind |
since when do DAs consider charges because of an influx of emails? |
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its established the guy is a prick, a bad father and a horrible husband, none of which is against the law. as a republican-minded gal, rule of law should be priority hon. |
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I am not defending this ass in any way, but my question is why the trial? Are they trying to set a precedent against asshole husbands, or what would they be trying to accomplish by this, seeing as his jail time wouldn't be that much compared to his losses that he is already suffering (loss of wife and 5 kids)? |
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Boy do I know that this is true. Too much experience for my taste. Either way, I wonder what the point of putting him on some kind of trial will do. I don't see how two years in jail could be worse than his own personal hell he is going to have to deal with, or if he were on trial, what statement would it make? |
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i have very little sympathy for the owners of the dogs, except for the usual pity that i have for someone who is just totally fucked up beyond reparation. |
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