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They're starting the real medial blitz now. This morning, on both FoxNews and CNN, they were using the exact same language abot Syria than they were using for Iraq a few months ago: Suspected chemical weapons, supporting terrorism, harboring evil people, etc.. The only change is that now the evil people are Baathists and former officers in Saddam's government. I was suprised at how quickly it started back up again, bit not that it did. |
I guess I am wondering what the plan is? Are they discussing "liberation" of Syrians now? Are they planning to bomb their asses and set up a temporary new government there? Some of this is obvious to me and then some of it, I just don't understand.....why is Syria next? Isn't North Korea a bigger threat? Are we going to go to the UN and try to put sanctions on them for destroying their weapons and such as we did in our facade to Hussein with a plan to bomb them anyways? I guess I am looking for DETAILS!!!! Explanations, cuz I have NEVER heard of major problems with Syria before, though I haven't really paid attention to Syria before either. |
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The 90's saw a redrawing of the map in the USSR & Germany areas. The 00's are going to see a redrawing of the Middle Eastern Map. Asia is next. I am not sure if it is going to wait until the 10's or if we are going to see this take place sometime within the next 5 years. |
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One big difference from that and what we are facing today. The USSR and Germany didn't fall because of our direct gunfire and bombing. We didn't MAKE them fall by war. We took Hussein out of power by an act of war. A redrawing of the middle eastern map? Looks like it. Is China next or is it us? After bombing and changing the governments by force in more than one middle-eastern country, who will really be thought of as the villian, us or them? We do live in an age where victimization is common among people and shown all over the place trying to get sympathy. Will the middle-east play on the world's sympathy, and maybe, just maybe, instead of taking out China it will be the US instead? I still don't understand this one thing. Why Syria? |
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Maybe not a news article, but rather Opinion. But informative anyway. |
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It briefly discussed the role Syria plays in the "axis of evil" with quotes from the President and he co-horts in regards to going to Syria with threats and saying that they think Syria will co-operate, to sum it up shortly. |
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That's a great board. Check out the list of current discussions. You can learn a lot there. |
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- Lawrence Eagleburger, US Secretary of State under George Bush Snr. |
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i think our next plan of action should be to invade the reservations of tribes who still allow the hunting of predatory birds. |
i think our next plan of action should be to invade the reservations of tribes who still allow the hunting of predatory birds. |
i think our next plan of action should be to invade the reservations of tribes who still allow the hunting of predatory birds. |
i think our next plan of action should be to undermine the qualms of nomads who still allow the husbandry of pregnant berbers. |
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Ha! Beat that! |
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WASHINGTON - In a new dispute over interpreting intelligence data, the CIA and other agencies objected vigorously to a Bush administration assessment of the threat of Syria's weapons of mass destruction that was to be presented Tuesday on Capitol Hill. After the objections, the planned testimony by Undersecretary of State John Bolton, a leading administration hawk, was delayed until September. U.S. officials told Knight Ridder that Bolton was prepared to tell members of a House International Relations subcommittee that Syria's development of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons had progressed to such a point that they posed a threat to stability in the region. The CIA and other intelligence agencies said that assessment was exaggerated. Syria has come under increasing U.S. pressure during and after the Iraq war for allegedly giving refuge to members of Saddam Hussein's regime, allowing foreign fighters to cross into Iraq to attack U.S. troops and for backing Palestinian militant groups that were conducting terrorist strikes on Israel. After Saddam's government fell, some Bush aides hinted that the government of Syrian President Bashar Assad in Damascus might be the next U.S. target. The objections by the intelligence community come as the Bush administration is defending itself over complaints that it embellished intelligence secrets to justify the war against Iraq. Bolton's planned remarks caused a "revolt" among intelligence experts who thought they inflated the progress Syria has made in its weapons programs, said a U.S. official who isn't from the CIA, but was involved in the dispute. He and other officials who provided similar accounts spoke only on the condition of anonymity because of the issue's sensitivity and because they aren't authorized government spokesmen. The CIA's objections and comments alone ran to 35 to 40 pages, the official said. Officials declined to provide more details of the disputes over the testimony, some of which was secret and scheduled to be delivered in closed session. The House panel is considering a bill that would toughen trade and diplomatic sanctions against Syria, which is on the U.S. list of terrorist-sponsoring nations. Officials provided conflicting explanations of why the hearing was canceled. A Bolton aide said it was because of a scheduling conflict -- Bolton was called to a White House meeting Tuesday afternoon -- and that the hearing had been reset for September. Others said it was because the bitter dispute couldn't be immediately resolved. A CIA spokesman declined to comment on the issue. But other officials in the executive branch and on Capitol Hill said the White House Office of Management and Budget, which coordinates government officials' public statements, wouldn't give final approval to the planned testimony. The conflict appears to illustrate how battles over prewar intelligence on Iraq have spread to other issues and have heightened sensitivity among Bush aides about public descriptions of threats to the United States. The White House acknowledged last week that it shouldn't have included in President Bush's January State of the Union address a dramatic contention that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was trying to buy uranium for nuclear weapons in Africa. Other administration claims about Iraq's banned weapons program and alleged ties to the al-Qaida terrorist network are now in question. Several officials said another reason for the cancellation of Bolton's testimony was that he might have been subjected to sharp questioning about Iraq intelligence, a controversy the White House is trying to lay to rest. There is more attention to "dotting I's and crossing T's," said a State Department official, adding that Bolton's draft statement was the subject of "extensive edits." Bolton set off a controversy in May 2002 when he asserted in a speech that Cuba has a biological warfare program. A State Department intelligence expert, Christian Westermann, recently told a closed-door Senate Intelligence Committee hearing that available intelligence data don't support that assertion, U.S. officials have said. The first U.S. official said that after months of complaining about pressure to skew their analyses, rank-and-file intelligence officials "have become emboldened" by the recent public debate over Iraq. "People are fed up," he said. Another official confirmed that the CIA had "a good deal of concern" over the classified portion of Bolton's testimony. In speeches and congressional testimony over the past year, Bolton has identified Syria among a handful of countries whose alleged pursuit of biological and chemical weapons makes them threats to international stability. His assessments attached more gravity to the danger that Syria poses than did a declassified U.S. intelligence assessment that covered the first six months of 2002. In testimony in June before the House International Relations Committee, Bolton said U.S. officials are "looking at Syria's nuclear program with growing concern and continue to monitor it for any signs of nuclear weapons intent." A CIA report submitted to Congress in April contained more cautionary language. Noting that Syria and Russia have reached preliminary agreement on civilian nuclear cooperation, the CIA report said only, "In principal, broader access to Russian expertise provides opportunities for Syria to expand its indigenous capabilities, should it decide to pursue nuclear weapons." In his June testimony, Bolton asserted that U.S. officials "know that Syria is pursuing the development of biological weapons." The CIA report said only that it's "highly probable that Syria is also continuing to develop an offensive BW (biological weapons) capability." Finally, Bolton told the congressional committee that "North Korean entities have been involved in aiding Syria's ballistic missile development." The CIA reported that Syria was trying to build Scud-C ballistic missiles "probably with North Korean assistance." CIA Director George Tenet, in an annual worldwide assessment of threats against the United States that he presented to Congress in February, referred to Syria by name only once, and that was in connection with its support for Palestinian extremist groups looks like someones reluctant to play patsy this time around, and is trying to get this right out of the way, right away... also looks like they're possibly telegraphing what Bush's next set of claims might be? |
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i think the apocalypse is coming. |
thats just the ice cream man you hear nate. |
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speaking of which, jesus christ patty. jesus christ. |
i think the apocalypse is coming." I dont know what I think yet, but when the media pundits are saying "we" have to choose between Israel and Syria, I think something bad is about to happen. |
"See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins. The cities of Aroer will be deserted and left to flocks, which will lie down, with no one to make them afraid. The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim, and royal power from Damascus; the remnant of Aram will be like the glory of the Israelites," declares the LORD Almighty." Isaiah 17:1-3 Aroer is in Jordan. Ephraim is the West Bank. Aram is the Syrians. |
US vetoes UN condemnation of Israel. Again..... are you shocked? didn't think so... |
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well, at least the UN resolution passed unanimously, and though I still suspect its just a political move and the UN wont be able to help, for now I'm going to stay positive about it. |
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