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I don't think Nader's going to affect the vote too much in this election. Maybe I'm just an optimist. I do know that I nearly voted for him last time, but I changed my mind while in line to vote. Not that it mattered anyhow. |
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. Last time, Nader won the presidency in my precinct (or whatever it's called) |
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. Chris Offutt lives here in town, according to a quick googling. . We've had some weird stuff in Montana. We had the Militia thing a number of years back, and there are a some paranoid rifle-toters out in the void between cities... But not so many that you notice them all the time. Mostly they stick to themselves and put up 'No Trespassing' and 'Beware of Dog' signs. They tend to live way out of town. . Generally, Montanans are pretty friendly folk. If you run out of gas or break down on the highway, someone will pull over to give you a lift before you've taken a few steps. That's happened to me twice. Most gun-owning Montanans just use them to shoot deer. . So the answer is yes, there are some of those types around simply because if you want to be weird, you can buy some backwoods land and be weird all you want. No neighbors to complain. But not a lot of them, and the rest of us don't hear from them too often. |
there are people driving around austin w/ bumper stickers that say "ANYBODY but Bush". |
I'm going to vote early this weekend in the Texas primary...for Dean. :) |
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I liked that. I havent decided who I will vote for in Nov. In the primary, most likely Dean as well. |
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i voted for Huffington for Gov. even though she dropped out. |
By their count, Nader really only hurt the Democrats in Florida and New Hampshire. If Nader does what Michael Moore did, that is, go to Florida and tell everyone not to vote for him, so there arent any close votes or necessity for recount, and take his name off the ballot in New Hampshire, the Dems have nothing to worry or complain about. And besides, he really wont make a difference. Why? If you ask me, the current polls are misleading, yes, even the ones that put Kerry ahead of Bush. They are misleading because even though they might represent this certain 1000 people or even the nation or whatever, it all comes down to who brings out more people to vote. Judging by the dramatic surge of voters in the Democratic primaries compared to 2000, I'd put money on the Dems getting more of their breed out to vote. At this point the election is the Democrats' to lose. anyways, the numbers: "Tennessee: Bush received 1,056,480 votes. Gore received 977,789 votes. Ralph Nader received 19,694 votes. Had Gore received every vote that Nader got, Gore still would have lost his home state. Colorado: Bush received 884,047 votes to Gore’s 736,470 votes. Nader received 91,482 votes. Together, Nader and Gore lost by over 50,000 votes to Bush. Arizona: Bush beat Gore and Nader combined by over 35,000 votes. Arkansas: Bush beat Gore and Nader combined by over 38,000 votes. Missouri: Bush beat Gore and Nader combined by a little over 40,000 votes. Nevada: Bush beat Gore and Nader combined by a little over 6,000 votes. Ohio: Bush received 2,294,167 votes. Gore received 2,117,741 votes and Nader receives 114,483 votes. Bush beat them combined by over 70,000 votes. West Virginia: Bush beat Gore and Nader combined by a little over 28,000 votes. Iowa, Oregon, New Mexico, Washington, Wisconsin and Minnesota: Although Gore won in these six states, he only barely beats Bush thanks to strong showings by Ralph Nader. In fact, in states like Massachusetts, Maryland and Michigan and New York that Gore won handily, Ralph Nader had his strongest showings. New Hampshire: Gore received 265,853 votes, Nader received 22,156 votes and Bush received 273,135 votes. Had Gore received one third of Nader’s votes, Gore would have won New Hampshire. According to the exit polls, a slight majority of people who voted for Ralph Nader would have voted for Gore. Florida: Bush defeated Gore by 930 votes. Ralph Nader received 97,419 votes. Pat Buchanan pretty much openly admitted that he received about 1,000 votes meant for Al Gore. According to exit polls, when asked who they’d vote for if the race was only between Gore and Bush, 1% of the people who said Bush voted for Nader and 1% of the people who picked Gore voted for Nader. While I find these numbers to be misleading as they are in contrast to almost all political theory, they are the numbers. " Last point: Overall, Gore did WAAAAAAAY more to "lose" the election himself than Nader did. It wasnt just the media and Katherine Harris et al that hurt Gore, Gore campaigned poorly, |
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"Keep Austin Weird" is the unofficial city motto and definitely a distinct party of austin culture. it's everywhere. generally speaking, people here are very creative in a variety of ways, and showing your inner freak is rarely frowned upon here and mostly understood and encouraged, where in other more conservative places it would make your neighbors nervous or even lower property values. |
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Nader coming back to his senses |