I had to go to the Doctor this morning. Unlike Cyst I hate Doctors. Smarmy bloody white coated know it all fuckarses. It starts like this........... I was shutting a drawer on Tuesday night and thought ow. My back. Its been sore for the last three days, although it wasnt too bad this morning - due to the fact I made the Grump massage it and then rub this herbal heat stuff in it. When I told him I felt better but it was still a bit sore and prehaps I won't go to the Doctor, he said.. 'I don't want to have to listen to you bitch all weekend about your back. If you don't go you can't talk about it'. So I went. The Doctor said I had done all the right things and that he could either a. give me drugs (cool!) b. give me a couple of days bed rest (cool) but because i was okay and could walk he flagged both and said just keep getting your boyfriend to do the massages and you'll be fine. I told him also about my grandmothers stroke and that my great grandmother had one also. He said: 'this is where you get the weight lecture. Energy goes in and energy gets expended but you seem to be winning (WTF?) You're a beautful girl but you have a weight problem. You need to address this and enjoy your life. Doctors make their money two ways - through smokers and overweight people.' I left his office. Payed my stupid $29 for 5 minutes. Went to work. I'm a beautiful girl with a weight problem. Nice. And he didnt even suggest ways I could lose weight. Or give me an eating plan. I got nothing but a strange compliment.

and he had a limp handshake.

try sleeping on your back and sides. I once had a back problem, the silly thing was, we used to gather at a friends for simpsons and drink his outta sight, knock you on your ass cadillac margaritas. Well it had rained, as we were leaving, i slipped very literally flat on my back, feet in the air like a birthing mother on his slick hardwood floor. ....all the following week, my back was killing me, I couldn't even get up out of bed in the mornings, it huirt when i took deep breaths. Finally I went to a chiropractor and it wasn't until the next sunday when everyone was ribbing me that i realized it was the fall that fucked me up. I had totally forgot. Damn margaritas, pain killers AND creators in one. anyway, my chiroquack suggested i take epsom salt baths and avoid sleeping on my stomach. I did and baddabingbaddaboom, my back pain went away. give it a try ans see if it helps.....

I will, thanks Patrick. I am getting better now anyway. It was the whole strange compliment thing that bothered me. Doctors are weird.

Moonit!!Get another quackter!!!

I can recommend a good female doctor if you want moonit?

Angel you can? I just usually go the New Regent Street Med Centre, cause its close to work... I havent had a regular doctor in years.

I've only ever had female doctors and nurses for pelvic exams. if I had a male doc, I'd never go either.

Sleeping on your side w/a pillow between your knees works amazingly for back pain, esp. lower back pain. I was a little skeptical at first but seeing as how I was lurching around the house, hunched over like Quasimoto, I was game for anything. At that point, if someone had told me that sitting in the middle of the kitchen floor, at 2:17am, on the 2nd Tuesday of the month, wearing nothing but a cumberbund on my left forearm, gargaling gatorade and listening to Neil Sadaka records, w/51 herbal candles in the shape of Barry Manilow surrounding me... I'd do it. Hmmm...

Ohhh! That,s suffering..Neil Sedaka?....Barry?...OH!OH!OOOHHH!(just like Sam)

Moonit: Got to a licensed massage therapist & try a Shiatsu or some Rolfing. This isn't a weight-realted problem -- it's injury related. Same as Patrick's. When it's wt-related (i.e. sciatica, general lower back problems,etc.) you know/becuz it's chronic. But yr back trouble only started after you shut that drawer. And try to check out a good yoga or Pilates class. I swear by both/becuz they work & they're easy to do. (I've been doing Pilates for 4 wks. now & the difference in my ass & abdomen are already noticable.) The classes are generally $$ becuz they're both trendy now. But if there are none in yr area/you can check out the floor excercises for Pilates here: http://www.hermit.com/hermit/mat/matlist.html The Pilates workouts w/the equipment in a class setting are $$. But the floor exs won't cost you a dime. And the pictures & the site are very thorough. You can search for a Pilates class in yr area here: http://www.hermit.com/hermit/~mjm.html

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Thanks - all advice taken and noted ; ) I was surprised to see a New Zealand address on that website, but its in Wellington (which is the other island) so I might just try the exercises by myself. My boss told me I could have an extra half hour for lunch every day if I went to the gym. (I love her). Starting Monday - step class. I hate step but its the only lunchtime aerobics thing on. I might see a pesonal trainer and get some weights going again. I used to do weights and I never felt better, I was starting to get definition but I fell off the exercise track.

Moonit - Papanui Medical Centre have good female doctors and nurses. I have been going there since I was a child. If you have asthma they don't even charge for the consult (providing it relates to asthma). Also they have evening and Saturday surgery too. email me and I'll tell you my doctor's name