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By kazu on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 12:24 pm:

    I think sem may have mentioned that I spent most of the summer sitting on the couch reading cookbooks and watching the Food Network. I also did a bit of cooking, some of which turned out pretty good.

    For the first time in my life, I am excited about cooking. Really excited. I have a little journal in which I am documenting my journey to food snobbery and keeping track of whatever kinds of tips I get.

    And today I spend about $400 on cooking stuff, a blender and food processor and a new set of pots and pans. I have some nice pots that me mum got for me, which I love and wanted to get some individual things (a stock pot, a covered saute pan, small skillet) and it was cheaper to get a new set, which is good.



    So, if anyone has any advice about cooking things that have made their lives easier, tell. And also, what kinds of cooking related things gets you all excited?


By J on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 12:51 pm:

    Oh hon,me too,$40 dollars a day is my favorite and 30 minute meals I like that Rachael Ray,I'd kill for her stunt on $40 a day.My favorite thing is my crockpot.If I make a roast or turkey,I try to plan a recipe to use with the leftovers.And I collect cookbooks I get excited about them I have at least 60 from my cooking bible The Joy of Cooking to Alices Resturant Cookbook to Whitetrash Cooking volume 1 and 2,plus some vintage cookbooks from world war 2.Stockpots are good,I love to make homemade potato soup,and if I roast a turkey or chicken I save the bones for soup.Hehe,looks like Sem's going to be eating good:)


By Nate on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 12:55 pm:

    shallots.

    oh, and butter.

    and always take the time to mince your garlic. garlic presses are tools of the red devil.

    use a big knife.





By kazu on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 01:12 pm:

    J, I collect cookbooks too! Even when I hated cooking I loved reading them. I bought about six this summer.

    I posted something before about the $240 Sabatier knife set I got for $24.

    I loves me that big sharp chopping knife chopchopchopchopchop

    I'm starting to think that the garlic press is evil. It takes a whole layer or two of skin off...and not the paper or thick skin, the thin skin. Plus I love bashing the cloves with the side of the knife.



By J on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 01:31 pm:


By Nate on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 02:17 pm:

    Verdura, by Viana La Place is one of my favorites. It was given to me by my aunt, and she went through and transcribed all the pencil notes from her copy into mine.

    So now I know that the Fusilli with Spicy Tomato and Roasted Pepper Sauce was served on my 23rd b-day.


By kazo on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 04:21 pm:

    "she went through and transcribed all the pencil notes from her copy into mine"

    That is so sweet. And that Fusilli sounds wonderful.

    I stopped at Borders today and looked at cookbooks. I didn't buy any, but I think I might get this one.


By Nate on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 04:27 pm:


By kazu on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 04:38 pm:

    No, it looks good though. Are you familiar with it?


By Spider on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 04:44 pm:

    I bought this one recently. It's not bad.


By Nate on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 04:49 pm:

    the Madison book is excellent. i've yet to buy it, but several houses in my family have it.


By kazu on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:04 pm:

    this is the best cookbook I bought this summer. Several of my cookbooks have been lost over the years...and of course, some of my favorite ones.

    this is a handy book to have. One day my friend Brian and I had been smoking pot all day and we left to get some food, stopping at coolidge corner so Brian could find some flyers for apartments. We wandered into a bookstore that turned out to be an all cookbook bookstore. I think I spent about $75 dollars there.


By Nate on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:33 pm:

    i adore mollie katzen. i heard her on some npr thing shortly before thanksgiving. cooking on the radio is kind of funny. if i remember correctly she was stuffing portabellas with some brocolli/pine nut/parm/bread crumb mixture. i veganized what i could remember of the recipie and added it to my TG menu.

    i picked this up in the bookstore around the same time. when my mom walked over i said something like "holy shit, mom, check this out." she ended up giving it to me for xmas. it is a textbook, beautifully laid out, excellent reference.

    goddamn. i'm itchin for the kitchen now.


By kazu on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 06:47 pm:

    I noted that. I've been looking for a good reference book.


By dave. on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 07:02 pm:

    this is the vegetarian bible, as far as i'm concerned.

    much more than just a recipe book.


By kazu on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 08:12 pm:

    damnyoupeople


By agatha on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:29 pm:

    I was just gonna tell her that!

    That book kicks ass. Seriously.


By Natgel behmouth frooozenglaaaaajahhh on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 12:35 am:

    no no no. the boot kicks ass.

    boot to head!


By Hal on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 10:35 am:

    Fucking hippies.


By Lapis on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 02:00 pm:

    I've got a couple of old Betty Crocker books: the standard with red cover (about 30 years old), Betty Crocker cooks outside (not sure on the title, it's 40 years old and includes a "recipe" for brownie s'mores) and Betty Crocker's Guide to Entertaining which has tips like "use your kids to serve hy'ordeurves, it's so much easier".

    Have a couple of Moosewood books too, but Betty Crocker is my favorite. It's not to difficult to vegetarianize/veganize recipes.

    On a similar note, has anyone read cookzines? I have various copies of Peko Peko, Soy Not Oi, Please Don't Feed the Bears, Food Geek, Don't Have a Cow, Kitchen Witch and The Vegan Slut floating around in my room and alot of it's pretty good cooking, some even have guides on homebrew and making wine.

    I don't cook much though. When I do it's mostly ramen. Last year I cooked.


By agatha on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 02:14 pm:

    I have a few food geeks. I really like that zine. I think I bought a zine by your friend Greg recently, Pez. I can't remember what it was called, but it's a little cartoon novel of completely uneventful events.


By kazu on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 02:38 pm:

    urges.....must resist urges to buy all of these books.

    I might buy some of them used.

    My father saved all of my grandfather's cookbooks and I am going to raid that stash when I get home. I won't buy non-vegetarian cookbooks (unless its for fish), but I'll take them for free anytime.


    I just spoke with Patrick. Unfortunately, they are too busy to meet up for dinner. I did, however, get to hear the wee eva fussing in the background.


By Lapis on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 03:23 pm:

    CLUTCH! (This is one of the times when I really want to use effects on words. Clutch deserves to be bold and curved like a top of a doorway.) You mst've gotten #10, I think. It's good. I keep on hoping to turn up in one of the comics, but I never do. I did turn in my Make Something article in time, but I guess I don't hang around the IPRC enough.

    Carrie (Food Geek) is one of the easiest people to nurture a crush on. She's a great artist, she drew the robot that ended up on the zine symposium flyers.


By Hal on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 03:55 pm:

    I hope all of you choke on salad.


By agatha on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 04:32 pm:

    Yep, that's the one. I like it.


By Lapis on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 05:37 pm:

    Hal. Ster. Stop it before I decide I want to choke you.

    Talk to me.

    Clutch is great. I think my housemates are in that issue.


By kazu on Monday, September 1, 2003 - 12:03 am:

    I can't stop looking at cookware.


    This will change when I have piles of pages to read.

    My mother gave me this chef's pan a few years ago. I love it. It's my most favorite pan that I own

    Soon, I hope to have this big guy.


By agatha on Monday, September 1, 2003 - 01:01 am:

    I've heard that the silpat's are awesome, although I don't have one myself (yet).


By kazu on Monday, September 1, 2003 - 01:51 pm:

    Happiness is.....


    Farmer's Markets. Yesterday we went to the one on Buford Highway which is primarily Korean but with lots and lots of other goodies. It is a bit overwhelming and sometimes difficult to find things. Today I went to the Dekalb Farmer's market and got inexpensive spices and the things that were not available at the other market. They were squeezing fresh cane juice although I didn't try any. The bread in the bakery section was still warm and the ladies packing the muffin boxes were singing.


    It was heaven.


By wisper on Monday, September 1, 2003 - 03:28 pm:

    we got my mom a silpat for x-mas.
    it's great!


By V.v. on Monday, September 1, 2003 - 07:16 pm:

    For me,the food of the gods is salt beef and latkas,but i bet i cant find this at a farmers market.


By Lapis on Monday, September 1, 2003 - 08:42 pm:

    Ew.

    I made a wonderful salad the other day. Here's the recipe:

    * Spicy Beet and Mango Salad *

    Half a Jicama
    One Beet
    Two Mangoes
    A bunch of Cilantro
    Ginger (optional)
    Salt
    Cayanne Pepper

    Peel and slice the jicama, beet and mangoes to whatever size you want (cubes). Steam the beet if you want, otherwise cut it smaller because it can be a bit tough. Chop the cilantro real fine, if you're using ginger peel it and dice. Throw everything into a bowl, add salt and cayanne pepper to taste.

    It's good.


By agatha on Monday, September 1, 2003 - 10:02 pm:

    MMMMM. That sounds grub.


By Lapis on Monday, September 1, 2003 - 10:17 pm:

    It was in Invincible Summer. And it was. But I made it the day before I went camping, and by the time I remembered it was there, I had to throw it out. Along with some blackberries I'd picked.

    Sad.


By eri on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 12:07 am:

    Bummer. I haven't been experimental in the cooking department for a while. I probably should be, but I have had too much on my mind lately to focus on cooking and stuff like that.

    I have this entire collection of cookie recipies, like a cookie of the month club kinda thing, and bags upon bags of cookie cutters and templates and sprinkles, etc. My mom signed me up for it and gave me the kit last christmas. I haven't made a single cookie from the set to date. I want to, but when I have the time, I don't have the ingredients, and when I have the ingredients I don't have the time.


By Spider on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 09:34 am:

    I made parsnips and ham from a 150-year-old recipe this weekend. They were real good.



By kazu on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 11:43 am:

    Last night I had thai red curry with green and red peppers and tofu that was left over from the night before. I made it with a brand new curry paste and it was lovely.

    Tonight I am going to make either a spicy brocolli saute with soba noodles or an indian black eyed pea thing. Probably the black eyed peas since the tomatoes I want to use are ripe enough to explode.


By Spider on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 12:06 pm:

    Here's a question for you all. Everybody has certain favorite cooking smells that take them back to happy times making cookies with Grandma or whatnot, but are there certain foods that you can't eat or smell because they give you bad memories?

    For example, I can't stand the smell of warm green peppers because they remind me of the family that abused me when I was little -- the mother cooked and canned green peppers and tomatoes in her basement kitchen, where the bad stuff happened. The smell of damp stewed tomatoes does it to me, too. (Fortunately, tomato sauce doesn't have a negative connotation, probably because my mom made and now I make it quite often, so there's no connection to memory. However, my mom hates green peppers, so I never smelled them cooking in my own house and only smelled them at the Mauros'.)

    The taste of green peppers doesn't bother me...it's just the smell. Weird, huh?


By dave. on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 12:16 pm:

    "where the bad stuff happened"?

    for real?

    i don't have any smell memories.


By kazu on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 12:22 pm:

    I know there is one or two, but I can't think of them. Smell memories don't really do it for me anyway. Music memories, those can be downright painful.


By J on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 12:33 pm:

    I can't stand the smell of pumpkins but I really don't know why.


By Spider on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 12:37 pm:

    Yeah, for real.

    I used to have a visceral reaction to the name Joseph, for the same reason. It used to be a real concern for me -- what if I met a guy named Joe and I really liked him? How could I be in a relationship with someone with that name? I'd have to call him something else!

    Fortunately, I don't feel that way anymore.


    Speaking of more normal things....when I was 11, I went to Spain with my family and got a very bad case of food poisoning. I drank a lot of lemonade and 7Up during that time, and for years afterwards, 7UP and lemonade would make me nauseous. This, I learned in my first psychology class I took, is due to aversive conditioning, and aversive conditioning that involves nausea is the longest-lasting conditioning there is (for obvious biological reasons....if something makes you throw up repeatedly, your body classifies it as a poison and will make you throw it up whenever you ingest it).


By kazu on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 12:58 pm:

    "if something makes you throw up repeatedly, your body classifies it as a poison and will make you throw it up whenever you ingest it"

    What about alcohol? I mean, I can't drink gin anymore. But I can drink beer and vodka...these have made me throw up repeatedly.


By semillama on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 01:11 pm:

    perhaps it only applies to children? Maybe fish made me throw up bad as a kid, because I have a serious aversion to seafood. I know that's why I used to avoid all cheese, because I remember having pizza for the first time and puking in front of all the kids at a birthday party and they all made fun of me. I didn't eat any cheese for the next 20 years. Even now, I won't eat solid cheeses, and I will only eat it in combination with other foods as in mexican and pasta dishes. I overcame my pizza aversion in Wisconsin.


By J on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 01:15 pm:

    In grade school a teacher made me eat this putrid jello that had cole slaw in it at lunch time and I puked in front of everyone,I still like jello but I hate anything with raw cabbage.


By V.V. on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 01:40 pm:

    J,you know the most disgusting food on earth?PILCHERD PIE.You get pilcherds,and smash them all to bits with a hammer,then serve it to kids at summer camp.If you die and go to Hell,i bet the only food is SHITTY PILCHERD PIE.


By Nate on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 01:45 pm:

    oh jesus man that is fucking disgusting.


By V.v. on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 01:49 pm:

    J,COLE SLAW IS EVIL POISON FROM HELL.This stuff allmost kill a Doctor friend of mine,it spread from his guts to his BLOOD,He had to have a blood transfusion to save him.


By V.V. on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 01:55 pm:

    NATE,GOD HELP YOU DUDE,YOU MUSTA HAD THE SAME GUTS,BRAINS,FINS AND FISH EYEBALLS THAT I HAD.


By J on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 01:59 pm:

    Fish pie? I'm queasy just thinking about it.


By Antigone on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 02:14 pm:

    Cheese Wiz.

    My family used to take long road trips. I still love to just get in the car and drive, sometimes across the entire country.

    Anyway, one such trip was from Dallas to the Canadian border, when I was 7 or so. We were in my dad's van, and I was in the back eating a cheese wiz sandwich. The movement of the van and the cheese wiz made me sicker than a dawg. Had to stop the van and barf. For years afterwards I couldn't even THINK about cheese wiz without getting nauseous.


By Nate on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:05 pm:

    people eat cheese wiz sandwiches?

    it took me about five years to beat my aversion to whiskey. i think the first alcohol you puke hard on gets lodged into your brain, and subsequent tend not to. i never had a problem with tequila, though if you took all the vomit from my drinking career and put it into drums sorted by type of alcohol, tequila would exceed anything else by at least a factor of two.


By Antigone on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:16 pm:

    "i think the first alcohol you puke hard on gets lodged into your brain, and subsequent tend not to."

    Shit, I've never had a problem downing everclear, and I first puked on that when I was 11.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:22 pm:

    Cheeze Wiz is the food of the gods.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:23 pm:

    No.

    Pad Thai.

    Cheeze Wiz is the food of the white trash gods.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:24 pm:

    Tin trailers and all that.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:25 pm:

    Damnit... I didn't specify WHOSE gods, I just said gods.

    On another note, I would have to say that whiskey stands as my vomiting alcohol. That is unless its Makers, or Bushmills. I can drink Bushmills all night long without problems. Although you give me any sour mash type, and I'm fucked.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:29 pm:

    I can't stand whiskey unless I'm drunk already. Sours are good.

    I have instructions for making a still and everything, but it's illegal here. Some guy got arrested in Portland and it made the six o clock news.


By semillama on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:29 pm:

    It's rum for me, followed by tequila, very closely. I have little to no problem with whiskeys.

    when I was younger, my momma told me, she said Gener I want to smell it, and then she smelled it.


By Antigone on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:32 pm:

    Pad Thai...

    Dammit, and I was gonna be a good boy and have yogurt and an energy bar for lunch today, but now I'm craving Pad Thai. Thanks a lot, pez!


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:34 pm:

    Tequila makes me silly, and I make Antigone hungry!


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:35 pm:

    No no no.... You make ME hungry, but thats another story for another thread on another day, when I'm more drunk then I already am.


By TBone on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:37 pm:

    Back in the dorms, I caught the Knowles Hall Stomach Flu of '99. The last thing I ate before it hit me was a full can of plain Pringles.
    .
    I stay away from Pringles now in general, but the thought of plain Pringles makes me barfy.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:37 pm:

    Don't I know it.

    If you need porn that badly, I've got an old coy of On Our Backs floating around somewhere.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:39 pm:

    Pringles are awful in general. I tried the salt and vinegar ones once, couldn't find any other potato chips at that damn english rest stop....


    Disgusting.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:39 pm:

    Porn is for people with no imagination.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:39 pm:

    And besides, I have 32.5 gigs of it anyway.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:41 pm:

    But none of the women really look like they're enjoying themselves, do they?

    That's what erotica's for.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:42 pm:

    You know why women fake orgasms?

    Because they think we care.

    Seriously though, imagination is WAY better then porn any day. The only reason I have 32.5 gigs of the shit, is because I'm too lazy to go and delete all of it.


By Spider on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:43 pm:

    You're drunk at noon? Jeez.

    There's a drug called Antabuse that's used to help treat alcoholism -- it works by making the person vomit profusely if they ingest any alcohol, thereby conditioning them to avoid it voluntarily.

    I think conditioning of any kind requires a very high (shoot, I forget the terminology) stimulus-response correlation. If you drink and don't throw up more than you drink and throw up, it's not going to condition you to avoid drinking. But if every time, or close to every time, you drink, you get nauseous, you won't want to drink any more. Naturally. Duh.

    This works with animals, too. If you want to keep squirrels out of your birdseed, you can buy stuff to mix in there that will make squirrels nauseous when they eat it (but doesn't affect birds) -- voila, no more squirrel raids.


By Spider on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:44 pm:

    Dag, this thread is moving fast.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:46 pm:

    Ooooh, Squirrel repllant.

    Note to Self: must buy.

    And I'm drunk before noon usually on my days off because I get off work at like 7am and start drinking. But then again I'm usually in bed by like 3 or 4 pm.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:46 pm:

    "Too lazy" He says. "They think 'we' care" He says.

    Bah. Not good enough. Here's a real excuse for ya.

    So you'll roll over and go to sleep so we can fucking get some rest from all that monstrous hortrible fucking to mack up for the tiny little penis.


By Spider on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:48 pm:


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:48 pm:

    1: You, nor anyone else here knows ANYTHING about my penis.

    2: Was more then a joke, because personally I can get off during sex with my clothes on, I get more out of the woman getting off then anything.

    3: Learn to spell.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:51 pm:

    I do know how to spell, unlike most people (hint hint) and I can't right now because my glasses distract me.

    I didn't say anything about your penis.

    The tiny little penis. The.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:52 pm:

    Well if men had peni to match your expectations of peni, then we would all walk very funny.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:52 pm:

    That, or all the men you know, need to seek alternative enhancement programs.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:55 pm:

    No, it's that when men have small penises they seem to think that they have to move way faster and harder than they need to and it hurts.

    Ow ow ow.

    You try riding a bike the next day.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:56 pm:

    Ah yes, the good old Jackhammer Fuckers. I've heard stories about those guys, mostly from women who shortly there after became lesbians.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:01 pm:

    See the other thread. Overspacing.

    I like being a girl. Don't have to worry about hurting the other person (much, and usually that's biting, and they like it) or getting soft from too much alcohol.

    Wouldn't it be nice if guys were just a wee bit more considerate?


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:02 pm:

    Aren't you like 9 feet tall?

    That could cause some serious pain issues if not dealt with right.


By V.v. on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:05 pm:

    HAL, i read what you say,and i recon its COOL to have no imagination,[get my drift?]right on bro.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:06 pm:

    You're exaggerating. Six or so. I'm just a bit shorter than my one-legged aunt.

    Pain issues, maybe, if guys get whiplash trying to get a look. It's dealt with.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:06 pm:

    Huh?!?


By V.V. on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:28 pm:

    HAL,I AGREE.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:32 pm:

    Good job.


By semillama on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:40 pm:

    Somewhere, there is a file on Hal's penis. I know it.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:42 pm:

    Probably, but the real question is:

    Is anyone looking for that file?


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:46 pm:

    You might have a stalker Hal. You never know. Some nija squirrel will seek you penis out and.....

    I'll leave that to your oh-so-creative imagination.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:47 pm:

    Wrong kind of nuts.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:50 pm:

    Sometimes they like blood too. What if it wants to hibernate?

    Squirrels can't be about wood and nuts all the time.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:51 pm:

    Wood, Nuts, and Ninja training.


    The life of a Squirrel in a "nut" shell.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:54 pm:

    Uh huh.

    Aren't they out to get you or something? Wouldn't they try to hit you where it hurts?

    Simply logical.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:56 pm:

    They are much more diobolical then that. That and they can't get to my nuts, the cat protects those.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:01 pm:

    How big's the cat? There's more of them then there are of you, remember.

    Heck, if you came here and I theoretically had a boyfriend that boyfriend might turn out to be a ninja squirrel in disguise giving you blue balls.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:04 pm:

    Ah but if I found that out, he'd have to die.

    The size of the cat isn't really relevant, he's been trained since I got him to kill squirrel assasins.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:06 pm:

    If I had a boyfriend and you killed him, you'd have to die too. I'd reveal my sudden cannibalistic tendencies.

    Does that training consist of plastic bags?


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:10 pm:

    I thought you don't eat meat.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:10 pm:

    You know that song is alot funnier if you bring the ninja squirrels into it.


By semillama on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:10 pm:

    What if a ninja squirrel wanted to hibernate in Hal's sack?


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:11 pm:

    I don't. I'd rather eat human meat than animal meat though.

    Humans do worse things.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:22 pm:


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:39 pm:

    I read that comic every day.

    Personally, I prefer this one though.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 06:15 pm:

    I've been reading that one for a year. More than that, actually.

    I like this one.


By wisper on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 07:16 pm:

    y'all are boring.
    can't we go back to talking about puke?




    that's why i can't eat Kraft Dinner. Not since i was in 4rth grade.
    I remember how good it was with hot dogs cut into it and everything, but i get sick just smelling it.


By V.v. on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 07:35 pm:

    Yes,i remember,the other thing that makes me puke is CELLARY,i had some CELLARY flaver cheese years ago,and it still makes me sick to think of it.Also i remember my mothers boild cabbage,it smell like an open sewer.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 07:37 pm:

    Celery? I love celery and boiled cabbage, mmmmmmm.

    When I was smaller, we'd have an "irish" dinner once in a while, corned beef, mashed potatoes and boiled cabbage.


By V.V. on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 07:49 pm:

    Lapis,but i bet your mom did not cook the cabbage for six hours like mine did.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 07:51 pm:

    My dad cooked it, braised it for maybe 20-45 minutes.


By V.v. on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 08:02 pm:

    Lapis,my only compensation was the days when my mother made lots of BLEANO [Lithuanian for Latkas]potatoe pancakes with onion,i used to eat them as fast as my mother could make them,wonderfull.


By V.v. on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 08:10 pm:

    Lapis,next time you go past the Kosher part of your wallmart,whatever,get some latkas,you can micro-wave them in no time.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 08:10 pm:

    Mashed or grated? Did you eat them with applesauce or ketchup?

    Occasionally we'd have this horrible beet, sour cream and herring salad, it's supposed to be a traditional Norweigian food but I can't stand herring or sour cream. I like beets now, but not the other stuff, bleah.

    My cousins and I would never eat it and we'd get asked by Grandparents, aunts and uncles: "What kind of Norweigian are you? Don't you have any pride in your heritage?"


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 08:12 pm:

    No microwave, but I've made them before.


By V.v. on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 08:32 pm:

    LAPIS,i did not have any kind of sauce,it would be an insult to the BLEANOS,When i had a big building company,i did plenty work for a Norweigian Lady,she gave me plenty Raindeer meat,it was most tasty,have you try this food before?its very nice,but expensive.


By V.v. on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 08:47 pm:

    p.s.the Bleanos were made with grated potatoes,the Irish food i call corn beef hash,it is VERY good in cold climates.In Eastern Europe and Russia you need plenty meat and potatoes to put up with the extreme cold.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 08:47 pm:

    Reindeer meat? Weird. No, I don't eat meat, I haven't for years and I'm not terribly fond of the idea of eating flesh.

    I seriously doubt my family would have eaten reindeer meat, they came from the south, Mandal and Oslo. Some of them are still fishermen.

    Maybe it depends on your tradition or your cookbook. I've always eaten them with either applesauce or ketchup.


By V.v. on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 09:12 pm:

    LAPIS,if you do not eat meat,do you not feel weak and ill?how do you put up with cold weather and snow?do you take garlic pills for your blood circulation,cod liver oil for joints,zinc to balance hormones and prevent violent outbursts?i hope you are well.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 10:50 pm:

    Oh, yeah, I'm about the healthiest person alive, even a tad overweight.

    I took zinc once to help my memory and I got suddenly violently ill. I don't take it anymore.

    Nobody can be healthy without a balanced diet, even those who eat meat. You have to watch what you're putting in, that's all.

    I made the decision to stop when I was sixteen and extremely depressed, seeing a therapist and being encouraged by my parents to take drugs like ritalin and prozac. Eliminating meat from my diet was what worked for me, it wasn't something I could deal with anymore.


By V.v. on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 - 03:38 pm:

    Lapis,i think you are getting your zinc from broccoly.


By kazu on Friday, October 3, 2003 - 10:48 pm:

    Reason #2394 Why Kazu Cannot Be Vegan

    Thai Red Curry. I made it this evening and I am eating it now. With tofu and red and green peppers and tonight's special guest, broccoli.

    Heaven.

    The new paste I am using is amazing: Mae Ploy. I highly recommend it. Next time, I am going to buy their panang paste. No more Thai Kitchen for me I tell you what! Just remember to add about tablespoons each of brown sugar and fish sauce.





By kazu on Friday, October 3, 2003 - 10:54 pm:

    Ha! I already posted about the curry paste before.


    It's that good.


By 8 on Saturday, October 4, 2003 - 01:21 am:

    or, uh, vegetarian, because, uh, fish, uh, sauce isn't like, uh, fish milk, or, uhm, honey from the fish hives...

    uh..


By kazu on Saturday, October 4, 2003 - 01:35 am:

    No, it's the reason I couldn't be vegan because of its arrival in the historical development in my diet.


By 8 on Saturday, October 4, 2003 - 01:44 am:

    ooh, ah. i didn't read that book.


    honey from the fish hives, though. sounds delicious.


    i had this pork "FOR STEW". i didn't know what to do with it so i braised it in wine and water and fennel seed and salt for a good long time figuring that is stewish.

    but, just pork? so i threw in some rice and let it go until the rice was cooked and i had this odd thing. no broth, just purplerice and porkcubes.

    it, uh, heh. it is not good.

    every morning i eat what will fit on one fork. a cube of pork and purple rice to coat.

    eventually, it will beegone.




By 8 on Saturday, October 4, 2003 - 01:45 am:

    ph, i brought that up because of the rut. i am in.

    i need to find and asian store and buy some curry paste.

    one of my old ones, she was the master of chicken & potato curry. mm. i should go visit her with some breasts and spuds and a tub of the yellow paste.

    and a can

    of coconutmilk. <--- vegan.


By Lapis on Saturday, October 4, 2003 - 06:52 pm:

    Roasted coconut juice is the most excellent non-alcoholic beverage ever. Except for water.

    Coconut juice and little bits of coconut in it. Yummy. Vegan.

    If you just get good vegetables then you won't need the fish sauce or chicken or whatever. Tofu forever!

    And you don't need to worry about touching your prepared vegetables with chicken blood and such.


By wisper on Sunday, October 5, 2003 - 06:28 pm:

    today the decision:

    hand mixer- $8.50
    cheapest electric mixer- $10
    pretty good electric mixer- $15
    big fancy mixer- $30


    i like the hand mixer's simplicity (and it's fun crank!) but when do you need a hand mixer vs. electric? ever?


    but i want cookies NOW!


By TBone on Monday, October 6, 2003 - 11:19 am:

    hand mixer with the crank! hand mixer with the crank!
    .
    ALWAYS go with the crank. Much more satisfying.
    .
    Wait. Mixer?


By wisper on Monday, October 6, 2003 - 12:12 pm:

    guh?


By TBone on Monday, October 6, 2003 - 12:51 pm:

    I mean it.


By Lapis on Monday, October 6, 2003 - 04:33 pm:

    Hand mixer is more portable and fun.

    You can always get a better electric mixer for hard-core baking.


By sarah on Monday, October 6, 2003 - 05:52 pm:


    i inherited my great grandmother's peuter grinder. it clamps on the side of the counter. she used it to make chopped chicken liver. she just stuck the cooked livers, eggs, and onions in the top and using the hand crack would grind it all up. good stuff.


    pez, did eliminating meat also take care of the symptoms that were being treated by drugs?



By hetaher on Monday, October 6, 2003 - 06:07 pm:

    you don't usually *need* a mixer for cookies
    unless they're super fancy


By heather on Monday, October 6, 2003 - 06:13 pm:

    that pork cubes thing made me almost spit
    through my teeth, at work.

    i am having trouble getting myself to eat meat
    anymore unless it's disguised with a lot of
    things...and that doesn't usually fit into any
    healthy eating idea.


By Nate on Monday, October 6, 2003 - 06:55 pm:

    suddenlly i crave golden buddha.


By wisper on Monday, October 6, 2003 - 08:33 pm:

    well, the need for a mixer arose last night when i was making chocolate mousse and was supposed to 'mix at high speed for 5 min' and had to use a whisk. Whisking hurts after 5 minutes!
    turned out kinda flat. Need mixer.


By Lapis on Monday, October 6, 2003 - 08:45 pm:

    I'd been off the drugs for a good four years before I gave up meat.

    By then, the reasons for my symptoms had changed, it was more of an issue of depression than the ADHD itself.


By kazu on Saturday, December 6, 2003 - 05:09 pm:

    It's going to be a sorabji Christmas for Kazu; I just sent my mom my Christmas list with cookbook recommendations from Nate* and music recommendations from Dougie.


    Now I want thai food.



    *I'm going to get the one that dave. and Agatha pointed out on my own since my mother will probably just get confused trying to order a used one.


By semillama on Friday, May 7, 2004 - 05:43 pm:

    Emo Phillips' Cole Slaw Recipe -American Style.

    Chop cabbage into large bowl.
    Look for green peppers.
    Drive to store.
    Choose green peppers.
    Carry them to a cashier.
    Drive home.
    Find money.
    Drive to store.
    Buy green peppers.
    Drive home.
    Chop green peppers into bowl.
    Look for mayonnaise.
    Drive to stupid store.
    Buy mayonnaise.
    Drive home.
    Mix mayonnaise into bowl.
    Look for lousy raisins.
    Drive to store.
    Ignore cashier’s ignorant snickering.
    Buy stupid lousy raisins.
    Drive home.
    Mix raisins into bowl.
    Look for stupid lousy miserable damned stinking carrots.
    Drive to blasted stupid lousy store.
    Buy lousy miserable damned stinking stupid carrots.
    Yell at stupid ignorant Nazi redneck store personnel for laughing at you.
    Crawl to car.
    Drive home.
    Chop stupid lousy miserable damned stinking lousy stupid lousy miserable stupid stinking lousy carrots into bowl.
    Look for finger.
    Look harder for finger.
    Look everywhere for finger.
    See cat scurrying away.
    Chase cat out door.
    Follow cat into new neighbor’s house, surprising him in the middle of a crack deal.
    Dive over sofa to escape automatic weapon fire, landing on cat’s tail, causing cat to jump up screeching and claw new neighbor’s eyes as he’s bending over the sofa to shoot you, enabling you to grab automatic weapon from his hand and hold it on him and other crack dealer until police arrive, arrest them, and drive you and cat to hospital, where cat’s stomach is pumped, finger is found and it’s sewn on good as new.
    Collect reward of half of neighbor’s property from police drug dealer auction, then just buy all the ready-made coleslaw you want from a nice deli.

    SERVES UP TO 50,000


By Gee on Saturday, May 8, 2004 - 05:27 pm:

    I am going to IKEA tomorow to buy kitchen toys. I love IKEA, and I don't care what anyone says.

    I think Ron will buy me a present. I love presents, too! Presents from IKEA are the best ever!


    Yesterday I met a fireman (yum!) and a computer programmer (yawn).

    today I lost my metropass. I miss that $100.



    I'm bored.


By J on Sunday, May 9, 2004 - 04:12 am:

    I'm so glad your back Gee:) We are going to get the first IKEA in Arizona this fall right down the street from me,and I'm just beside myself with anticipation,giddy even.


By Gee on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 01:45 pm:

    I found my metropass, for those of you who were worried.



    Ron bought me candles. yay Ron!


By sarah on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 03:59 pm:

    yay Ron!


    i have wanted for a very long time one of those stainless steel lemon or lime pressers. can't find them anywhere. everyone says Target, but no target on earth has them. one said Williams Sonoma, but i just refuse.




By wisper on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 06:32 pm:

    I was worried about the mertopass.


By Agatha on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 10:34 pm:


By Gee on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 11:53 am:

    mmm, coffee products. joy!

    if I were a millionare and I had to live in any country aside from Canada, I think I would open up my own branch of Tim Horton's, just so I could have my favourite ice cap whenever I wanted.


By TBone on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 01:58 pm:


By agatha on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 03:20 am:

    That's pretty nice, also. How gay is the name of that website, by the way?

    I just saw Margaret Cho live and you didn't, nyah nyah. She's my fucking hero.


By TBone on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 12:42 pm:

    If it weren't for all the great info on that site, I'd shun it because of its name.

    Cho rules. I missed a chance to see her when she came to Missoula.


By Gee on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 04:40 pm:

    one time when my friend was driving me home, we saw a guy walking his dog and the dog was a husky and I went "HUSKYYYYYYY!", which is just how I heard Margaret Cho say it in some HBO comedy special. my friend laughed and laughed.

    I'll never forget that.


By moonit on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 07:02 pm:

    I have no idea who Margaret Cho is. But Greg Proops was just here for the Kiwi Comedy Festival. I didn't see him.


By Gee on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 06:51 pm:

    If Greg Proops married Survivor host, Jeff Probst, he would have to hyphenate his name to Greg Proops-Probst.

    that would be funny.


By Gee on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 12:37 pm:

    doesn't anyone else think that would be funny?!?? What's wrong with you people?!


By patrick on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 03:16 pm:

    no. its entirely retarded and outside the realm "Gee-ness". Who the fuck even watches Survivor anymor? No one.

    Now get back to being cute and idiosyncratic.


By Gee on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 05:42 pm:

    I watch Survivor. it's probably my favourite show. I'm deeply in love with Jeff Probst. he's such a bitch!



    what was the name of that comic book from "Chasing Amy"? Idiosyncratic what?


By TBone on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 07:16 pm:

    Idiosyncratic Routine


By agatha on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 10:40 pm:

    I watch survivor, beeyatch!


By Gee Probst on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 10:13 am:

    thanks Tbone.



By patrick on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 01:19 pm:

    agatha, whaddya doin.


By patrick on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 04:26 pm:

    at times i love where i live.

    even though i've been here almost a decade, its still neat to see Crispin Glover shopping at the neighborhood trader joes.


By J on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 04:54 pm:


By J on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 05:13 pm:


By Gee on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 06:06 pm:

    I'm going home!

    yay!


By wisper on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 07:33 pm:

    oh, my little heart is all a-twitter for Crispin Glover.

    What did he buy?

    Do you ever go to the Rite Aid that's down the street from where Henry Rollins lives? On one of his albums he names the intersection and the times he is most likely to be there.
    That would be one hell of a feild trip, waiting for Henry.


By patrick on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 07:55 pm:

    i don't recall what he was buying. he was in the check out line 2 rows down. when we made contact, he put on his sunglasses, perhaps sensing i recognized him and planned to bug him.

    Im not sure which rite aid henry is referring too. They are all over. But if i had to guess, its somewhere on the westside or in the beach communities. i knew crispin lived in the neighborhood because he was a customer at the indie video store i worked at for a spell. along with kevin spacey and a handful of others.

    have you seen crispin in a little-known, otherwise flop of a movie called Fast Sofa? his character is tops.

    he's kinda on the short side, or shorter than I imagined him to be. I had a good 3-4" on him.


By wisper on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 10:11 pm:

    Glover AND Spacey?
    Do you happen to live in the super hot and slightly pretentious loner actor area of town?


By moonit on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 02:37 am:

    and when I come over in March 2006 can you take my friends and I a-stalking?









    Just kidding about the a-stalking thing. Unless you know where Vin Diesel lives.


By patrick on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 12:27 pm:

    super hot, slightly pretensious, gay, over priced, overly hip now hot young soccer moms in volvo infested part of town.


    seriously. the part of town i live in has some of the best milf's in the country. and i notice them more because of my own baby mama.


By sarah on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 05:26 pm:


    who is crispin glover? his parents need to be spanked.




By patrick on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 06:28 pm:

    McFly in Back to the Future. Otherwise ecentric indie film actor.


By Spider on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 06:42 pm:

    For real, Sarah? You seem like someone who would know who Crispin Glover is.


By Spider on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 06:42 pm:

    I mean, judging by the movies you've seen. I don't mean that in any other way.


By semillama on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 06:58 pm:

    River's Edge! Surely you've seen that!

    He's also good in Bartleby.

    Recently appeared in the remake of Willard.

    Also had a touring theatre company composed solely of actors with Downs syndrome.


By patrick on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 07:26 pm:

    he didnt seem that ecentric though at TJs. In fact. it looks like he's been working out. His arms were kind buff.


By Wispers heart on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 07:58 pm:

    *twitter*


By Rowlfe on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 09:01 pm:

    you all fail to mention the fact that Crispin Glover is George McFly in Back to the Future


By kazu on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 10:01 pm:

    no. patrick said that. silly boy. ;)


By Rowlfe on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 09:42 am:

    GARP


By semillama on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 10:15 am:

    Wasn't that Robin Williams?


By The Watcher on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 03:07 pm:

    I recently finished my quest for items for the kitchen.

    Five Henkle Four Star Knives. The kind I'll actually use rather than a set.

    One 1 and a half quart Analon sauce pan.

    One steamer basket.

    Two plastic spoons for use with the small sauce pans. I'd like some more of these - maybe slightly larger. But, try finding something that won't scratch teflon in a size small enough for a one or one and a half quart sauce pan.

    Now I just have to learn how to cook more.


By kazu on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 09:21 pm:

    I raided half.com today and got seven new-to-me cookbooks, including the aforemetioned vegetarian "bible" agatha&dave.peoples recommended.

    I am so excited. And I am not allowed to purchase any more cookbooks until January 2005.


By patrick on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 02:12 am:

    did you ever get Food and Wine?


By kazu on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 02:42 am:

    every now and then. been looking at several.


By Lapis on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 - 02:44 am:

    Started up a batch of pineapple vinegar last night.

    I lusted over a book entitled "Wild Fermentation" at the co-op for several weeks before purchasing it on Friday.

    The next door neighbors have some kombucha and might give me a starter. That'll be cool.


By The Watcher on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 - 04:04 pm:

    I saw and interesting cookbook recently.

    It's "The Ex-Boyfriends Cookbook". These two ladies put togeather a lot of recipes there old boyfriends had cooked for them.

    Some of them looked quite good.


By kazu on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 - 04:06 pm:

    Somewhere around here I posted a recipe for exboyfriend pasta.

    none of my exboyfriends ever cooked for me. except pancakes. once.


By Gee on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 - 05:40 pm:

    Steve made me pasta once. I bought all the ingredients and cleaned up the massive mess in my kitchen afterwards. it was nice, but not spectacular. he kept promising me chili, but failed to deliver.

    Ron's not my boyfriend, but sometimes he cooks for me. he's much better at it than Steve was.


    I like to be the provider.


By TBone on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 07:46 pm:

    Agatha:
    $175 (with membership)

    Well, it's the X5, not the X3... and I haven't looked at the membership details.


By agatha on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 01:11 am:

    I saw that, but did you see how much membership is? That's the program my friend is in, but she's got no money worries whatsoever. The Illy coffee pods are really excellent.


By TBone on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 01:45 pm:

    Oy. I hadn't really looked. Membership not cheap. I think I could maybe afford the membership that comes with the set of spoons.

    I haven't tried pods before. I haven't tried Illy yet, either.

    But I got the machine I wanted. My crazy friends pooled together and got it for me.


By Gee on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 04:11 pm:

    I thought that Steve had ruined the name "Steve" forever, but then I rewatched an episode of "Black Scorpion", and remembered how much I loved the Steve character in that show, and the name was saved. such is the power of my love for Steve Rafferty!

    oh, Steve Rafferty, how I love you!


    maybe this should go under Strange Attractions.


By agatha on Thursday, July 1, 2004 - 12:15 pm:

    Yeah, Gee, what did that have to do with consuming consumables?


By V.v. on Thursday, July 1, 2004 - 01:23 pm:

    ...what she said...


By Gee on Monday, July 5, 2004 - 11:22 am:

    um...Steve and I used to eat food, sometimes?


By wisper on Monday, July 5, 2004 - 01:51 pm:

    Liar!


By sarah on Tuesday, July 6, 2004 - 10:43 am:


    WHO IS STEVE??



By Gee on Tuesday, July 6, 2004 - 02:25 pm:

    MY EX-BOYFRIEND.


By sarah on Tuesday, July 6, 2004 - 02:54 pm:


    okay. just checking.



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