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By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:27 pm:

    So Hal called me and I just know we're starting a manic posting "war" so here's my at least slightly pragmatic idea to hopefully not shanghai another thread. Like it'll work anyway.

    To begin, an insult.

    Hal, you're hungover and your cat's loud and your voice makes the telephone smell like shit crackers.

    Heh.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:28 pm:

    My voice makes your phone smell like SHIT CRACKERS?!?!

    Well at least I don't try to talk into the phone with my fuckin chin.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:31 pm:

    Also... What the hell are you doing to your phone in your sleep to make it smell like that, because seriously my voice can have no effect on the smell of your phone.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:31 pm:

    Well it's not like I try to do that. You try talking on the phone, eating an orange and posting to sorabji at the same time when your broken, duct-taped glasses are slipping down your nose and onto the floor because you're to lazy to put your eyes in.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:32 pm:

    I don't have a phone in my room.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:33 pm:

    Besides, you shouldn't take everything so literally, sheesh.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:33 pm:

    And just because I have an odd habit of getting drunk on my days off before noon... Has NOTHING to do with the fact that I'm hungover, I'm hungover because of yesterday, and I'm trying to fix that damnit.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:36 pm:

    Pbbbbbbbbbbth!!!!

    I didn't say anything about how you got hungover in the first place. It was a simple statement of fact.

    I don't have hangovers myself.

    We all know you're nocturnal anyhow, so why don't you turn into a bat and sleep in a closet?


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:38 pm:

    Because frankly my closet scares the hell out of me, I'm pretty sure thats where the spiders live.

    That and bats have horrible taste in food. I'd much rather be a cat, and sleep all the god damn time.

    Also, I'm not the one that got up like half an hour to noon. Sleeping the day away again Pez?


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:39 pm:

    I was reading comics. Besides, I've actually slept. Have you?


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:41 pm:

    Quite a bit actually. Was drunk before 6pm yesterday, and slept from about 7 to about 6am this morning.

    That was when the cat started to eat my foot.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:42 pm:

    Because it smelled dead.

    I went to bed at one. And you're an hour ahead of me.


By TBone on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:44 pm:

    Your cat was eating your foot, but you think cats have better taste than bats?


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:44 pm:

    Bah, my feet smell fine, I'm no hippie.

    No, he usually bites my feet when he wants something. This morning I think he just wanted me to get up and play with him. Which is REALLY hard to do when I'm hungover, now he's just sitting on my lap refusing to move and giving me the evil eye because I'm on the phone and not paying attention to him.

    God I love cats, persistent demanding little fucks that they are.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:47 pm:

    Oh and by the way Pez.

    I'm winning.


By Antigone on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:49 pm:

    God, people. Just shut up and fuck.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:49 pm:

    I'd say fuck you but you'd enjoy it.

    And normally, I'm a mouse only girl. Except for posting heree, and it's not like I have you sitting on my shoulder all the time making it into a competition.

    But.

    You still haven't insulted me. Holding back?


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:51 pm:

    Salad Monkey.

    No not holding back, just not very creative at the moment.

    Also, I think I'm too short to be her type Antigone. I'm like 4 feet shorter then her.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:53 pm:

    Salad monkey? C'mon...........

    Get some stilts and hold your breath. You know you look up to me.

    Even if I can't spell when I'm trying to keep up.

    You deranged squirrel-phobic alcohol slinging goofball that named yourself after an evil computer.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:55 pm:

    I only look up to you because your like 9 feet tall.

    WELL AT LEAST I WASN'T ORIGINALLY CRACK CANDY THAT CAME FROM THE MOUTH OF KERMIT THE FROG!!!!

    MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 03:58 pm:

    (1) Learn to spell.

    (2) Find an insult that makes sense.

    (3) Grammar and punctuation, my boy.

    (4) Remember that I'm older too. Even if you've been around here longer.

    (5) How's the hangover? Should I play some loud high music?


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:00 pm:

    Older by like what a month and a half?!?

    As for the rest of that, I'm neither original nor am I funny. I can't spell, I know it and admit it freely. As for grammar and punctuation I suck at those as well.

    The hangover is fine now, the early morning booze kicked in.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:03 pm:

    Drunkard.

    When's your birthday, it's more like three weeks as I remember.

    I'm just trying to pull out my trumps.

    If you're neither original or funny, then what are you doing here? Trying to learn some remidal English?


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:05 pm:

    Learn remidal english from Sorabji?!?

    My birthday is Feb 12, so yeah its like 3 weeks. So really you weren't doing much more then puking, shitting, and sleeping when I was born.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:10 pm:

    True.

    I'm still older, taller, more creative, funnier and I can spell.

    Dwarf.

    That wasn't original at all, but in comparison, it's true.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:12 pm:

    Bah.

    Maybe Anti is right.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:14 pm:

    Are you giving up?

    I could just keep on going.

    I think I'm prettier, more musical with a better singing voice and quite possibly better coordnated. At times.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:16 pm:

    I am however good at making fun of stupid people, witout them being aware of it.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:17 pm:

    Wooo. That's talent for ya.

    Who isn't?


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:20 pm:

    Stupid people.

    Well I guess that explains why I suck with women.

    I'm short, not creative, not funny, and usually I'm younger then them.

    WELL THAT JUST ANSWERS ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:23 pm:

    Dude, maybe if you actually had some type of confidence about yourself, or said something about it straight up.

    Bah. C'mon, you must have some type of talent.


By Antigone on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:23 pm:

    "I'd say fuck you but you'd enjoy it."

    Mmmmm, I think ya'll would enjoy it more if ya'll fucked.

    "I think I'm too short to be her type Antigone. I'm like 4 feet shorter then her."

    Sounds like your mouth would be closer to her crotch. What's wrong with that?


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:25 pm:

    Point taken.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:26 pm:

    Wow, how obvious. Right. And how long has this been going on?


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:28 pm:

    How long has what been going on? Them trying to get us to fuck? Quite a while, I know that for sure.

    Hell with my luck, the one time I do show up in Portland, you'll have a boyfriend, and I'll have blue balls the entire time I'm there.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:30 pm:

    Boyfriend, riiight.

    Make out friend, fuck buddy, playing rebound girl again.

    I don't have boyfriends, not right now. I run away.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:31 pm:

    I'm just saying with my luck, by the time I get there. Its entirely possible that will be the case.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:34 pm:

    Possible, but unlikely.

    The last actual boyfriend I had was in February. He lives in Seattle. Before that, September. He's gone and that's all I know. Before that, August of 2001.

    I don't do boyfriends well.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:37 pm:

    I don't do boyfriends well either.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:40 pm:

    You don't do boyfriends period.

    And owning the equipment and having your mouth around it are two different things.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:41 pm:

    I still could give a better blow job then you any day of the week.

    Not that its going to happen ever, but seriously I know the equitment 100x's better then you ever will. Its for the same reason you could go down on a woman better then I could even hope to.


By semillama on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:43 pm:

    Not necessarily.


By semillama on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:44 pm:

    Hal, whom do you drink with at 7am? I want to know. You need to be on Insomniac.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:45 pm:

    From the inside babe. Creativity and exploring can be a good thing. You probably do the same thing (handjobwise) every day.

    If you actually gave a blowjob on anyone (male) I'd daresay I'd be surprised.

    You'd have to prove yourself.

    Think of it as playing the piano blind.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:45 pm:

    I could so do Dave's job. But for some reason I don't think Comedy Central would go for the idea.

    At 7am I drink with whomever wants to drink with me, its pretty much random, and only a couple times have I stooped to drinking with myself.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:46 pm:

    And no, its called playing the skin flute with my eyes wide open.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:49 pm:

    Well. I do play the flute. And the saxophone. And I used to play the clarinet and oboe sometimes.

    Ever wonder where all those band camp jokes came from?


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:49 pm:

    Well. I do play the flute. And the saxophone. And I used to play the clarinet and oboe sometimes.

    Ever wonder where all those band camp jokes came from?


By V.v. on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:51 pm:

    LAPIS,yet things can turn around real fast,you can go out tommorow,meet some hunky chunky guy in a shopping mall,and ,fore you know it,you got ten babies[its that fast]dont ever give up.If i was about 3 or 4000 miles west of where i am,id take you out for a dam good meal and give you a kiss on the nose,cuz you deserve it.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:51 pm:

    No, not really, but I do know where double posts come from.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:55 pm:

    By the way, I am broadcasting right now:

    Go here to get the link to listen.


By Antigone on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:58 pm:

    OK, didn't want to get this obvious Hal, but in my experience, with a chick, "public insulting match" == "invitation for romantic involvement" every time. Never fails. Just get your ass to Portland.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 04:59 pm:

    Wow, I haven't double posted in ages.

    Vv. Bleah. First of all, I prefer not to be causght dead in a shopping mall. Second, I'm an intellegent person that cannot be defined by lust alone. Third, condoms. Fourth, even if I didn't use condoms, there are abortions. Fifth, I am a bit claustrophobic in relationships so even if I have one, does that mean I'll stay? No.

    I don't intend to get married anytime soon, if at all. I'd rather not, frankly because then I'd actually have to take some degree of responsibility of someone else and why should I?


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:00 pm:

    But I really want you Antigone, thats why I've held out for so long. Your the Sorabjite I REALLY want to fuck, well you and Nate.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:04 pm:

    His mouth is virgin, remember. Don't you want to be his first blowjob?

    Not so much an invitation as knowing I can get away with it and be a brat.

    Oh, so that's why you got off the phone, 1:08 pm here.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:05 pm:

    Chicks for free? Whaaaat?


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:06 pm:

    Got off the phone because well I did use up damn near 2 hours of phone card time, and I do have to save a little of that.

    Figured I'd cast to throw around some time.

    And best remember the being a brat thing, when I show up in Portland.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:08 pm:

    That song's better in karaoke.

    True.

    Wehn you show up in Portland? When will this happen?


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:09 pm:

    Eh, sooner or later.


By Antigone on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:12 pm:

    Ah, bite my hairy ass, Hal. Kiss my hairy chin-n-a-half!


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:12 pm:

    Ah. Eventually. I'll have to remember to get my heels back in shape.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:15 pm:

    I may just up and take some # and make a random 3 day trip to Portland, sometime in the next couple months.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:18 pm:

    Take some #?

    If it's too random, I'll almost guarantee you I'll be working.

    If you come in November, I'll have my photos up.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 05:40 pm:

    That wasn't suppose to be #, it was suppose to be $. I just wasn't paying attention.

    And it won't be completely random, I'll let you know first.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 06:16 pm:

    Hopefully a couple weeks. That way I'll have some time.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 06:18 pm:

    Oh, and the music you play, this is mostly stuff I'd listen to on the "alt-rock" station 3-5 years ago. Thanks for playing some Garbage though.


By wisper on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 07:26 pm:

    what Anti said about public insult matches?
    true.

    y'all need to stop wasting your internet time and

    GET




    IT




    ON

    it's been freakin YEARS!
    just shut up and do each other already.





    or would that stop the back-and-forth flirting?
    doubt it.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 07:43 pm:

    There are bits of three different mountain ranges and several hundred miles in the way.

    That's always the excuse.

    It's been two years since the active flirting started, if I remember correctly. It was the summer before I moved.


By TBone on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 07:49 pm:

    Didn't Hal recently go across the country to play video games? Portland isn't that far.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 07:52 pm:

    No it's not, but all we've got is a nickle arcade.


By Nate on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 07:58 pm:

    road trip for video games is one thing. road strip for snatch is on an entirely different level.

    and, i almost missed hal saying he wants to fuck me.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 08:05 pm:

    Almost.

    Funny little typo there, Nate.


By Hal on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 11:13 pm:

    Jesus...

    Like I said, I'm gonna get some cash together in the next couple weeks and take a trip to Portland, whether I drive or fly doesn't matter to me.

    As for the fucking, whether it happens or not, doesn't matter, although I do need a vacation where I don't go work. The trip to Virginia was fun, but it was also work. I need to just go hang out for 3 days without worrying about anything.


By Lapis on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 11:26 pm:

    Right, and hanging out in Portland, with the Portland local Sorabjite is going to be worry-free?

    I need to get out my horns.


By Hal on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 - 08:55 pm:

    Well more worry free then going to work and shit.

    As long as I don't have to eat vegan food I'll be fine, without meat I die.


By Lapis on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 03:52 am:

    You don't have to eat vegan food, but there's no meat allowed in the house.

    Also if you're too obnoxious about eating meat or trying to goad me into eating meat I may be slightly abraisive.


By moonit on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 06:28 am:

    There's no meat allowed in your house?

    weird.

    You would hate our freezer. Not that I eat a lot of meat but the Pandyr does.


By Hal on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 10:53 am:

    Like I said before darlin, unto each their own.

    I won't try to convince anyone to eat meat, if they don't want to thats their beef. (Pun intended.)

    I just don't eat a lot, so when I do eat, I balance it. Some meat, some vegi, some carbs, and dairy if it suits the need. I eat as it becomes necissary.

    And the not eating vegan food thing was a joke anyway. FEK!


By TBone on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 11:31 am:

    Hal is all 100% hot beef, so don't let him in.
    .
    Plus, he's only 83% lean.


By Hal on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 12:41 pm:

    Screw you bitch, I'm 92% lean, and best you never forget that.


By Lapis on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 03:12 pm:

    Well in a house of four vegans and one mostly vegan it's a good idea. There's only one meat eater in the house and he keeps it away. Though he did give some salmon to Sylvie once.

    There's a few Portland houses that way. Some don't allow any animal products inside.

    You meathead, I'll chase you down with carrots in each hand.


By semillama on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 03:24 pm:

    What does your cat eat?


By patrick on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 04:56 pm:

    ugh.

    soy kibbies?



    sometimes people go too far.


    why are vegetarians always pale and lack energy?


    not that the vegetarians i know constitute fact, but everygoddamn one i know is unhealthy.







By Spider on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 05:08 pm:

    I was reading somewhere about some actress...who is it, now....anyway, she turned vegan recently and feeds her dog a vegan diet now, too. WTF is up with that? The poor dog.


By Spider on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 05:08 pm:

    Alicia Silverstone.


By Nate on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 05:31 pm:

    Dogs are ok with vegitarian/vegan diets.

    Cats are not. Cats you ruin if you keep meat from them.


By spunky on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 05:47 pm:

    my dog would like to smack you for that comment, nate.....

    Actually, Mia eats pasta, fruit, vegetables, shoes, toys, etc etc etc

    :P


By Nate on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 06:00 pm:

    I could kick your fucking dogs ass.


By TBone on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 06:04 pm:

    My cat assaults me every time I make anything with meat in it. But he also assaults me whenever I put more Friskies in his bowl.
    .
    Anything that's not meat or Friskies, he doesn't care about.
    .
    His favorite is ham.


By spunky on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 06:16 pm:

    Eri's grand mother's cat could kick your ass nate...

    and he's 15 years old (105 in cat years).

    He assults anyone with any kind of meat.

    He is also gay, so I think he is looking for that kind of meat as well........


By Nate on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 06:30 pm:

    goddamnit, i could kick that cat's ass too.

    fuck all. set it up. we can charge admission


By semillama on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 06:35 pm:

    Has anyone seen those VH1 promos with the cats as rock groups? Aren't they really disturbing?


By Lapis on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 06:53 pm:

    Why are vegetarians always pale and lack energy? Perhaps they're vegan vampires who are struggling with their bodily needs. I don't know. It doesn't sound like they're eating a balanced diet.

    She ate/eats ordinary cat food. Dry. At the time she hid in my room (when I was home, I had to keep the door closed in fear of the puppy) and the bathroom where her litter box was. There were two dogs living in the house at the time, one of which loved cats as food. She assaults me when I visit, petmepetmepetmepetmepetme and sleeps where I sleep.

    I've never used any fancy organic meatless cat food (I have a friend who once worked for a vegetarian pet food company, doing home delivery), but as long as they're getting the proper nutrients it's alright. Cats are carnivores and need more protein than dogs do.

    Sem, your email attempted to virus me. I escaped with the powers of my brain. Thae cat groups you're talking about, are they similar to what can be found at Rather Good?


By V.v. on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 07:03 pm:

    Lapis,if i kill dogs and eat them,can i still be a vegan[i must make this into a rapping song]


By Platypus on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 07:03 pm:

    Cats need meat, their digestive systems are not able to handle wierd soy shit. Besides, people who force their animals into vegetarianism are silly.

    That said, my cats are largely omniverous. They eat Innova canned and dry (made by Felidae, one of the few companies that doesn't use cats and dogs in their cat and dog food). They also eat anything and everything you leave unguarded, from bread to Newman-O's to rice to vegetation to shoes to bath towels. Cats are funny beasties.

    Patrick, lots of folks, whether vegan, veggie, or carniverous, are pale and lack energy--it's because they don't get the right nutrients. People who think that you can't live without meat are full of it. (Perhaps literally, meat poopies can fill ya up as Nate will tell ya).

    I've also been getting really into food combining latrly. I'm not sure anyone else here does food combining so I'm not going to blather on about it, but it's a great thing.


By Lapis on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 07:07 pm:

    Sylvie loves yarn, lint, fluff and dental floss. Zero (friend's cat) loves spaghetti sauce.

    Most people can do with more fruits/veggies, sleep, exercise and sunshine. Choice of food intake isn't the only thing that will leave people pale.


By V.v. on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 07:08 pm:

    TBone,i think all cats regard human hands as ham,somththing to sniff,lick,and eat.


By kazu on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 07:22 pm:

    Some people can't live without meat.

    Like my cousin. He's allergic to every bean and legume there is. And eggs. And too much dairy makes him ill too...I think.




    Platy, what mean you by "food combining"?


By Hal on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 10:47 pm:

    Nate, my cat would kill you and eat you without second thought. He's trained to kill. I'm pretty sure the only reason he hasn't killed me and eaten me yet, is he realizes that if he did that eventually he'd run out of me to eat and go hungry.

    My cat eats more then any feline I've ever seen before, but he's not fat. He's stocky, big shoulders and shit, but he isn't a chubby little fucker. The only thing I've never seen him NOT eat, is Anchovies. I think there was just a bit too much salt for him there. He actually picked them out of his dish and laid them on the floor next to it.

    Oh and he still licks his non-existant balls.


By kazu on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 10:52 pm:

    My aunts cat weighed 35 pounds when he was alive.


By Nate on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 11:51 pm:

    i can still kick any of these cats' asses.

    you just don't understand what i am.


By moonit on Friday, September 5, 2003 - 05:54 am:

    Bear is on steriods now for his lukemia, and seems to be putting on weight.

    I'm sure Ferg would rip your arm off before you kicked her ass Nate.


By Spider on Friday, September 5, 2003 - 09:40 am:

    "(made by Felidae, one of the few companies that doesn't use cats and dogs in their cat and dog food)"

    Whaaaa? Is this for real?


    My cousins in Italy used to have a beagle that ate nothing but table food. They'd feed him whatever they were eating that night, so a typical meal for him would be a little bit of soup, then a little bit of pasta, then a little bit of salad, and then some fruit. He lived a good long life.


By V.v. on Friday, September 5, 2003 - 01:22 pm:

    HAL,WHAT IS THE NAME OF YOUR CAT,IT MAY BE A REINCARNATION OF MY BEST CAT SOOTY,WHEN IT CAME TO FIGHTING DOGS,HE ALLWAYS WON,HE STOOD UP ON HIND LEGS,AND WITH ONE SWIPE OF A PAW,WOUILD TAKE THE NOSE OFF AN ALSATION.HE WAS THE SUMO WRESTLER OF ALL CATS,[AT LEAST 40 POUNDS.] I ONLY CALLED HIM SOOTY CUZ MY FIRST CAT WAS BLACK.


By Platypus on Friday, September 5, 2003 - 02:14 pm:

    Sadly, Spider, yes. Most of the pet food industry uses rendered meat from a variety of sources. In addition to not being very good nutritionally (not much nutrition in chicken feet, pig hoof, etc), it's also not closely monitored at all. A number of veterinarians and research labs use rendering plants to dispose of animals and this meat works its way into the pet food industry. This was discovered in the eighties when vets complained that they were needing more euthanasia than before to put animals down, and it was traced to high amounts of euthanasia drugs already in the animal--which is due to eating animals which have been euthanized. (Interesting, this meat is not deemed fit for human consumption). Commercial pet food, in my eyes, has two problems: one, the use of cats and dogs in their food, which in addition to being nasty is unhealthy. (Mad cow, anyone?). Two, the fact that most of the food is nutritionally unsound since it is poor quality meat/bone matter.

    There are a handful of companies, such as Felidae, that use all natural high quality meat and vegetables, and don't use cats and dogs in their food. It's not that expensive and a lot better in my opinion for my peace of mind and my cats' health. They have been a lot healthier since I switched foods for them. So people who care about their animals should really switch. (If you can't find Felidae/Innova in your area I can track down the list of ok foods for cats and dogs and post it).

    Re: food combining. Different foods take different amounts of time to digest (for example, fruits and carbs). If you eat these foods together, the quicker digesting food ferments in your stomach/intestines waiting for the slow one, which is bad. So you eat foods with like digestion times with like, or eat foods on their own--for example, eat an apple 45 min before breakfast, allowing it to completely digest before you eat more.

    It's really hard and takes a lot of commitment and I am a pretty lazy person. I do feel better--I have more energy and less farts, but it's just so much fucking work. I was just wondering if anyone else here did/had done food combining and had thoughts. A lot of people do it to lose weight, which seems a little odd to me, but whatever.


By V.v. on Friday, September 5, 2003 - 03:17 pm:

    Plat,if the truth were known,ALL sorabjis and there pets need to lose weight.


By Spider on Friday, September 5, 2003 - 03:25 pm:

    Platy -- that's opened my eyes. When I get a dog, I'll be careful what I feed it.

    My aunt has lost about 50 pounds on a diet that works with food combining -- it's called the LA Weight Loss plan (but has nothing to do with LA, go figure). She has a schedule of foods she's allowed to eat on certain days and in certain quantities, which is drawn up by the (what the heck is the word?) office she goes to for weigh-ins and such. I don't know too much about it, but for one thing, she cannot eat fish and meat (non-fish) in the same day.


By Hal on Friday, September 5, 2003 - 05:32 pm:

    Shazbot The Destroyer.


    He is a squirrel/spider killing death machine, in a fight vs Nate. He would probably lose in the end, but not before removing some apendages.


By Lapis on Friday, September 5, 2003 - 07:45 pm:

    Ooh.


By eri on Friday, September 5, 2003 - 08:58 pm:

    "Plat,if the truth were known,ALL sorabjis and there pets need to lose weight."

    Hey now.....I have lost 10 lbs this month. That puts me DOWN to 110. I can't afford to lose any more weight. I am one step away from looking anorexic as it is.


By Platypus on Saturday, September 6, 2003 - 02:20 am:

    I just lost 35 pounds in hospital and am, again, underweight. But I still have a big butt.

    My cats, however, are fat enough for us all.


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