Stupid Republican Tricks


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By semillama on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 02:17 pm:


By TBone on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 02:51 pm:

    Challenging party orthodoxy, as the article put it, is a very un-republican thing to do.


By patrick on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 02:56 pm:

    i read that earlier.

    what a dick.

    i saw McCain on the daily show last week and im only sorry he isnt running for president.


By kazu on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 03:10 pm:

    John McCain is my favorite republican. I always have one. Briefly, it was Bob Dole because I think he's got a good sense of humor. Also Ben Stein, who actually referred to himself regarding his republicanism as "one of the nice ones."

    I swear, you'd think that advising against tax cuts during a war is akin to food rations or something.

    Not that I think they should be immune from criticism in a similar situation, but if Tom Daschle said that about John Kerry or Ted Kennedy, the right wing talking heads would grab on to it and tear him a new asshole, in order to play and expose the *pathological* instability of the Democratic party.

    Personally, I'd prefer spirited criticism to dry and monotone exchanges, as long is it's thoughtful, but that was just mean and idiotic.


By Antigone on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 03:15 pm:

    I wonder if McCain realizes that he's saying the same things Robert Reich (former labor secretary under Clinton) was saying a year ago.


By patrick on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 03:22 pm:

    the great thing about McCain is, I don't think he gives a shit who he resembles in his policy opinions .

    His assessment of the situation in Iraq on the Daily Show was not unlike Howard Dean has said. And thats what I like about him, and what we need more of. Towing party line, amongst many things, is dragging this country down.


By kazu on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 03:27 pm:

    "Hastert: "If you want to see the sacrifice, John McCain ought to visit our young men and women at Walter Reed and Bethesda. There's the sacrifice in this country."


    You have no idea how much this infuriates me. As if McCain, who spend five years as a POW in Vietnam, needs to understand sacrifice. Fucker. Fucker. Fucker.


By patrick on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 03:34 pm:

    coming from a motherfucker who couldnt serve because of a gimpy shoulder.


    fucking pansy.


    i swear to god...if i could just be granted a list of 10 assholes, in which i would have a free opportunity to whip the shit out of, that motherfucker would be on it.


By semillama on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 04:28 pm:

    I saw Joe Biden and McCain on Meet the Press sunday. Man, there would be a nice ticket...


By sarah on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 05:36 pm:


    McCain was on letterman last week too, via satellite.

    he's always been a smart, reasonable republican.

    i've become a centrist.

    i'm also volunteering to get people registered to vote this summer. first time i've ever done anything politically proactive, besides vote and write letters to my congressional representatives.




By semillama on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 06:50 pm:

    You can't be a centrist. Everyone has to be either a liberal or conservative. Didn't you get the memo?


    I just read a fucking awesome Vonnegut essay. That man should live to be the oldest man in the world. He'd make an excellent oldest man in the world.

    http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/cold_turkey/



By Spider on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 07:05 pm:

    I am in agreement with that essay. I love what he said about the Beatitudes. When I interviewed with the Jesuit Volunteer Corps, the man I spoke with agreed with me when I said the whole message of the New Testament is found condensed in the Beatitudes. Just imagine if, as Vonnegut said, they were posted in courthouses and in the Pentagon.

    For some reason, I thought of this passage from Pat Barker's Regeneration:

    They talked for over an hour. Near the end, after they'd been sitting in silence for a while, Burns said quietly, 'Do you know what Christ died of?'

    Rivers looked surprised, but answered readily enough. 'Suffocation. Ultimately the position makes it impossible to go on inflating the lungs. A terrible death.'

    'That's what I find so horrifying. Somebody had to imagine that death. I mean, just in order to invent it as a method of execution. You know that thing in the Bible? "The imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth"? I used to wonder why pick on that? Why his imagination? But it's absolutely right.'



By TBone on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 07:07 pm:

    Which one are you in this country? It’s practically a law of life that you have to be one or the other? If you aren’t one or the other, you might as well be a doughnut.


    I am a jelly doughnut.


By Antigone on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 07:22 pm:

    I am a flying fuck through a rolling doughnut.


By patrick on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 08:14 pm:

    what an awesome piece the KV


By patrick on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 12:50 pm:

    someone i know musth have donated a nickle to the Republican Party, CA charter, in my name. Because yesterday I got a glossy 8x10 pic of the pres and 1st lady thanking me for my support.

    what an awesome prank.

    unfortunately, im going to get republican mail for the foreseable future.


By semillama on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 12:54 pm:

    Know thy Enemy.


By sarah on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 12:58 pm:


    i'm a Dunkin Donut for sure. the long one covered in chocolate with cream filling. or a big puffy round one with cinnamon sugar.



By sarah on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 01:08 pm:


By semillama on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 01:29 pm:

    I'm a Tim Hortons Walnut Fudge.


By semillama on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 03:12 pm:


By The Watcher on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 03:16 pm:

    Good old TSU.


    I got one of those pictures too.

    No, I did not send them any money. If they knew I worked for the federal government they would have saved the postage. I'm a little paranoid with the Hatch Act.


By Rowlfe on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 10:25 am:

    www.emogame.com

    Play the Bush Game


By Gee on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 10:47 am:

    fucking Tim Hortin's. stupid Canadian business' that are no longer Canadian. I'm switching to Second Cup.


By wisper on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 06:29 pm:

    i know Gee, I know.

    but the apple fritters....!


By wisper on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 06:29 pm:

    I'm eating one RIGHT NOW!


By Gee on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 11:08 am:

    let's you and me band together and buy Timmy's back from the 'Mericans. how much could it be? I have about $500 in the bank right now!


By semillama on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 11:40 am:

    You can stay with me in Columbus when you come to make your negotiations with Wendy's.


By patrick on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:39 pm:

    ya hear that?


    sounds like the fear machine iscranking up again.


    you don't think they'd actually use the excuse of terrorist threat to prevent protesters from going anywhere near the republican convention do you?

    Or use the threat of a terrorist threat to shut down the democratic national convention do you?

    nawwwwwwww


    oh wait. you dont think the powers that be arent actually manufacturing a threat to scare people into voting republican do you?


    nawwwwwwwww



    can they get any more fucking predictable.


By Gee on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 05:39 pm:

    I'm so bitter. about lots of stuff.

    I want to go live somewhere where there are no people. I wish I could go to another planet.



    I can't stop THINKING.


By semillama on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 11:30 am:


By The Watcher on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 03:52 pm:


By Phred Phlintstoan on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 04:12 pm:

    The Watcher, you need some spelling lessons, dude.


By Rowlfe on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 02:29 am:

    I agree.




    The Rude Pundit
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    5/27/2004
    Now That's Some Motherfucking Freedom of Speech:
    Let us pause for a moment to honor the rudeness of another. Al Gore gave an exhilirating, cathartic orgasm of a speech yesterday in New York City. Read the whole thing. Watch the video on C-SPAN. Be patient and try a few times - the server has been overloaded for a while now. Why? Because Gore articulated, succinctly, precisely, ass-kicking-ly, what many, many Americans have been thinking for months, if not years, now.

    Now, the Rude Pundit has not been kind to Gore: he believes the former Vice-President "lost" the "election" in 2000 on his own. Yeah, yeah, Bush was installed, blah, blah, the media, yes, yes, Ralph Nader, yeah, go fuck yourself. All those things are true. But, bottom line, it should have been a blowout for someone running on Clinton's record, and Gore fucked it up. (And the Rude Pundit also realizes that a President Gore would not have been allowed to govern by a GOP so filled with evil and hatred that it can barely breathe because of the scarring bloat of cruelty that fills its gullet.)

    What's startling about Gore's speech is not the cleansing breath of actual intellectual thought combined with a sense of history in his references to Freud, Eisenhower and others, although, goddamn, it's about time someone so public mentioned the depravities of the Marquis De Sade in relation to Abu Ghraib and not just the easy analogy to the much-maligned gay porn; it's not the stunning breadth of evidence Gore lays out in order to exonerate the motives of the "few rotten apples" while impeaching the motives of those who ordered them to treat the prisoners like so many carcasses waiting to be carved up when he says, "Private Lynndie England did not make the decision that the United States would not observe the Geneva Convention. Specialist Charles Graner was not the one who approved a policy of establishing an American Gulag of dark rooms with naked prisoners to be "stressed" and even - we must use the word - tortured - to force them to say things that legal procedures might not induce them to say. These policies were designed and insisted upon by the Bush White House;" it's not that Gore takes it all the way to the President, daring to invoke "corruption," "viciousness," "betrayal," "dishonest," and "atrocious" in relation to Bush, which one-ups Nancy Pelosi in Democratic rage towards the administration; it's not his amazing declaration that Rumsfeld, Tenet, Rice, and others should resign for the good of the country, something we used to call "honorable;" it's not his recognition of the devaluing of America in the eyes of the world or even the simple recognition that the U.S. has to deal with the rest of the world, as well as the "payback" for our recklessly ignoring the Geneva Conventions; it's not his intonation of all the anti-Bush people from the military and government, like Clarke, Wilson, Zinni. While all these things are enough to make the speech vital, there's something else, at the end, that makes it something else.

    Almost at his conclusion, Gore says, "In December of 2000, even though I strongly disagreed with the decision by the U.S. Supreme Court to order a halt to the counting of legally cast ballots, I saw it as my duty to reaffirm my own strong belief that we are a nation of laws and not only accept the decision, but do what I could to prevent efforts to delegitimize George Bush as he took the oath of office as president. I did not at that moment imagine that Bush would, in the presidency that ensued, demonstrate utter contempt for the rule of law and work at every turn to frustrate accountability." Finally, in that moment, too little, too late, of course, but still, Gore says what we've been wanting to hear: he was honorable towards dishonorable men; he was a mensch to the putzes; he was the strong adult to the petulant children; and he was wrong.


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