Barack Obama. I guess he'll be on TV tonight at the DNC convention. http://www.obamaforillinois.com/

can that guy be more perfect? He sounds like the Rock. I hear his voice and i think...."i wish to work for this person." Harvard Law school! civil rights lawyer! constitutional law teacher! church-going left winger! I want to vote for him.

I look at him and think of that Sade song... "Smooth operata, smooooth operata..." I like him. He's what I think a Democratic is and was in the truest sense of the word. Pushing general welfare and smiling at everyone.

C'mon now -- where do you think you are? You KNOW they'd shoot his ass a soon as he announced he was running for prez. This is America: Black Leaders Need Not Apply -- Or Else! No! Let Obama become a Senator & stay alive. He'll do us a lot more good that way. (And he did give a great speech.) - RC

Yay! RC!! stay please. I like Obama. I agree that he should be in the senate for a while. Although a run for president in his late 50s after a distinguished senatorial career, maybe... Plus, what a cool name.

I just worry about him getting corrupted in Washington. He could run at anytime and win. And not just because he's black. He's got WAYYYYYY more going for him than that. His entire background and life story are the whole American dream package. "You KNOW they'd shoot his ass a soon as he announced he was running for prez. This is America: Black Leaders Need Not Apply -- Or Else!" you may be right. What does this say of the Republican Party? Isnt it time they openly came out and said "if you think this way, get the fuck out of our party?". That they don't scares me to think they might actually value these voters. There may be racist Democrats, but I can easily tell if its coming from the left, its from condescension and pandering, not outright hate and judgment and fear from these right ring Race Groupies who have no accomplishments of their own and therefore to feel better can only take pride in their race's history.

http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=NEWS&action=l&ft=1&board=37138445&sid=37138445&title=Multipurpose%20star%20born%20for%20Democrats%27%20effort&tid=chitribtsmultipurposestarbornfordemocratseffort&date=07-28-2004&url=story.news.yahoo.com%2Fnews%3Ftmpl%3Dstory%26u%3D%2Fchitribts%2F20040728%2Fts_chicagotrib%2Fmultipurposestarbornfordemocratseffort&.sig=19E9..hA4y_oUr.dp7B6oA-- Just reading the post titles on yahoo messages can tell you a lot sometimes.

If I was President... I'd be elected on Friday, assisntated on Saturday, buried on Sunday....

I felt a frisson of fear while I listened to Ted Kennedy speak last night -- do you think it's beyond the reach of the members of the current administration to arrange for Kerry's assassination should he be elected?

They got Wellstone, didn't they?

and blame ....Iran? yeah spider. total conspiracy paranoia. but as w.burroughs said 'paranoia is another word for hyper awareness' or something like that.

Spider used "frisson" in a sentence! Meanwhile, I'm feeling my own frisson: I'm headed down to Crawford tonight for the 9/11 screening. :)

SWEET! Speaking of that, Drudge got a hold of the transcript of Bill O'Reilly's head to head with Michael Moore... Note how O'Reilly keeps trying to duck Moore's question about sacrificing his child to liberate Fallujah...

Bah. I had a late meeting at work, so I can't go. The meeting was about my company probably closing it's doors tomorrow, so I don't really feel like driving 2.5 hours to Crawford in the rain, anyway. Feh.

That sucks, Antigone. I wish you good luck for the future.

anyone see that they're trying to "Dukakis" Kerry with that ridiculous NASA photo? compare that with this http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/07/images/28bushduk.jpg

You're right, Rowlfe -- even if Whitefolks would vote for him in droves, realpolitic would ruin him. You really do have to sell your soul to the devil - over & over again - to make it to the White House, becasue it costs so freakin' much to campaign. Sooner of later, coportate America would have Obama in their pocket. If not Halliburton then GE or one of the pharmaceutical companies -- but Big Business would find a way to make him their puppet. And if they can't buy you off, that's when they assassinate your ass. - RC PS I've been away for a long while -- please tell my poor heart that Marc hasn't gotten married yet!? (Some torches never die... :)

Who knows? It's not like Mark to announce something like that.

ok. Sharpton's speech? Kinda awesome. The Dems need some of that furious rhetoric.

We haven't been watching. Kazu got addicted to one of my video games, and we've been playing that instead of watching tv, actually. but I've been following it as it gets reported on line. I heard Sharpton was great, even though I don't personally like him. I also heard John Edwards did great.

I'm watching Kerry on cspan.org now. Its the first time I've seen him that he didnt appear to be so much of a coldfish. But theres still some Daily Show-esque moments in there of mockery.

why does kazu not speak to us?

kazu! get over here RIGHT NOW!

I have no internet access at home, so Kazu hasn't been able to do much web surfing. Plus, she's addicted to "The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind" as well. I told her she could come in last night while I had an after-work database meeting, but she didn't want to. I think she feels weird using the computers at my work.

http://209.208.176.251/audio/Al%20Franken%20talks%20with%20Sean%20Hannity.mp3 Franken vs. Hannity

I thought Kerry did a bang-up job last night with his speech. You can read the whole thing here. Highlights, for me: I will be a commander in chief who will never mislead us into war. I will have a Vice President who will not conduct secret meetings with polluters to rewrite our environmental laws. I will have a Secretary of Defense who will listen to the best advice of our military leaders. And I will appoint an Attorney General who actually upholds the Constitution of the United States. We're told that outsourcing jobs is good for America. We're told that new jobs that pay $9,000 less than the jobs that have been lost is the best we can do. They say this is the best economy we've ever had. And they say that anyone who thinks otherwise is a pessimist. Well, here is our answer: There is nothing more pessimistic than saying America can't do better. That last part reminded me of our arguments with Spunky. I want to address these next words directly to President George W. Bush: In the weeks ahead, let's be optimists, not just opponents. Let's build unity in the American family, not angry division. Let's honor this nation's diversity; let's respect one another; and let's never misuse for political purposes the most precious document in American history, the Constitution of the United States. Right on. And let me say it plainly: in that cause, and in this campaign, we welcome people of faith. America is not us and them. I think of what Ron Reagan said of his father a few weeks ago, and I want to say this to you tonight: I don't wear my own faith on my sleeve. But faith has given me values and hope to live by, from Vietnam to this day, from Sunday to Sunday. I don't want to claim that God is on our side. As Abraham Lincoln told us, I want to pray humbly that we are on God's side. What if we find a breakthrough to cure Parkinson's, diabetes, Alzheimer's and AIDs? What if we have a president who believes in science, so we can unleash the wonders of discovery like stem cell research to treat illness and save millions of lives? I haven't done my research on stem cell, uh, research, but I thought the phrase in red was a nice piece of snark.

yeah, rereading those words here.....definitely. and you picked the parts that i took particular note to as well. i know its all for naught as politicans are still politicians but yeah, he gave me some tingles last night. further...though i knows it typical post convention highs, but is anyone listening to bush anymore?

Speaking of Ron Reagan. . . Apparently Bush was giving a speech in Springfield MO in a baseball stadium, and every time he paused for cheers, you could hear on the tv broadcast the protesters booing outside.

I'm waiting with anticipation for Bushs RNC speech, looking for whatever good reasons he thinks he has to deserve another term. Lets all be honest and admit the 'positive' Kerry/Edwards/DNC is a political move. Not that the Democrats this year ARENT the 'hope' campaign, but come on, its a move to make Bush look like an asshole, and its working. By taking the high road, making digs more subtle and not mentioning Bush by name, it forces Bush to do the same, which he can't really do with his record. I was worried about what would happen if the Dems went spineless, but it turns out its probably to their advantage. The Dems know how to play up the populism and hope. The Republicans dont. Theres so much material to trash Bush with, but the Republicans know how to play that game, and any future efforts will now probably backfire. Wow. Strategy from a Democratic campaign. Who woulda thunk it?

people arent listening to Bush, because even those who will vote for him and support cant listen to him because if they did they couldnt vote for him. bush is a souless evil person. he's a fucking retard who doesnt believe in anything. he's gone. period. Let the bush campaign trash itself, they've done a good job up until this point. at this point Kerry doesnt need to say anything negative.

You know all the debates "Is Bush really stupid? acting stupid?" and all that? that Reagan article brought up something I hadnt considered. Maybe he's just not trying. Maybe he doesnt REALLY care. Maybe he's just lazy. In many ways thats worse to me than lying (no matter if the intentions are good or evil). Great power - great responsibility. Bush never takes responsibility or accountability for anything. A poll recently stated that if Canadians could vote for US elections, Bush would lose in a landslide in every province, with at most 30% support and in most places around 15%. Even in Canada's Texas (the ultra conservative province of Alberta), they hate Bush. So spread it to your friends: Invade Canada and then give us the vote. You'll have either Centrists, Libertarians or Democrats in power all the time, as we'd be the biggest swing state of all which means health care for every person.

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=820 we're not out of the woods yet. the popular media continue to show an eagerness to repeat rnc slander without first vetting it. right wing talk is still a force to be reckoned with. listen to that franken hannity thing up there. that guy is a master propagandist and his style is airtight. franken made great points and couldn't even faze the guy. he's like a fucking evil ninja android of disinformation and spin. these guys are not dead yet.

but you know they media likes to talk about the religious right and their voting power. yeah yeah yeah, they've never swung an election. not even with clinton, twice during the hey day or right wing/patriot/religious extremism. i think howard stern has more ability to influence an election than the religious right does.

uh, please do not encourage the states people to invade Canada. Thanks.

not everyone can be Sean Hannity. Hannity must have it in his genes. Franken knows all his tricks but he's still susceptible. Hannity is the best at interrupting, avoiding an answer and changing the topic and out-talking his opponents. I remember seeing a study that showed Hannity says on average twice as many words as Colmes does. He'd never change his views on anything because he's never given himself the opportunity to listen to anyone else in the first place. I wonder how this guy reads books. I saw him trying to copy the recent Dem positivity campaign by calling libs and cons to unite. This coming from someone who called his book: Deliver Us from Evil : "Defeating Terrorism, Despotism, and Liberalism " - nice company he puts us in there, huh?

"i think howard stern has more ability to influence an election than the religious right does." I think the religious right in hte US CAN swing the vote. they wont necessarily vote the way Pat Robertson tells them to, but theres got to be a reason you dont see any atheist or non-churchgoing presidents.

Canada's Texas?

there arent that atheists in thsi country or and in general non-church going people don't care about politics anymore than they do about religion. so its natural you wouldnt see em in politics.

hi.

p.s. I don't feel weird using the computer at Andy's work, I really just wanted to play Morrowind longer. :)

Hey Kazu! Is Morrowind the game where you can chose to be one of 10 races and, like, 40 occupations your character could have?

"there arent that atheists in thsi country or and in general non-church going people don't care about politics anymore than they do about religion" ...can you say that in english, Capitan Grammar? hiya kazu! "Canada's Texas?" Oui. Alberta was at one time rich and grand from it's oil, but this is slowing now. It's the only place here you can see people wearing cowboy hats outside when it's not Halloween. They're run by a conservative dictatorship, who long ago squandered their universal health care system that the rest of the country enjoys. Alberta is the only province to ever do that, and "Alberta-stlye health care" is a phrase that always comes up around election time, it's practically a 4 letter word, and a powerful threat. They say it's at least 10 years behind the rest of the country, or the modern world. Actually, they say that New Brunswick is 10 years behind, and Alberta 10 years behind them, and willfuly so. They will no doubt be the last province to allow gay marriage, and possibly the only thing standing in the way of it's national acceptance. Texas North, they calls it.

LOL! I can't believe Alberta is known as 'Texas North'! I always picture Canada (otuside of Montreal & Quebec) as this sprawling, mountainous, lush green freedomland with really friendly citizens, really good healthcare & excellent bi-lingual schools. But what do I know? If there's a national healthcare system in Canada, how did Alberta squander theirs? Did they secede from the country or something? -------------------------------------------------- The Religious Right can't win elections but they CAN tip the balance in states that are already in play, with close margins. The Republicans court them mainly because they have deep pockets. Remember, churches don't have to pay taxes or open their books to the feds. It's illegal for a church to endorse a candidate directly. But any pastor can get up in the pulpit (or on a tv broadcast from some megachurch) & tell the faithful to 'stand against Satan' by voting against those who support gay marriage & stem cell research & don't kiss Israel's ass on every issue. And the unspoken subtext to that is "Donate to Republican candidates!" It's well-know that folks like Hannity & O'Reilly get their Talking Points thru White House backchannels every week. Their job is to hammer home the pro-Bush, pro-war Republican platform & attack anyone who doesn't support them as unpatriotic. The Message gets drilled into the viewers heads on almost an hourly basis. But it's not just Fux News -- ALL of the news coverage from corporate media is corrupt -- even PBS. And today, you can't even GET on tv, even on local cable, to try & cover the news without the backing of a huge corp. sponsor. Did you notice how EVERY network that covered the DNC, PBS included, kept cutting away from the speeches to give 'commentary'? The only channel that aired the entire convention without interruption was C-Span, which is why I watched them. But elsewhere, the Powers That Be made sure their minions were there to spin the convention for the public. Because the corporate shadow-gov't doesn't want you watching & listening & deciding for yourself how you feel about a candidate! When Al Sharpton was speaking the other day, Fux News blatantly ignored him, cutting away to their Talking Heads, who were dissing Sharpton while he was speaking. If they're talking over his speech, how can they possibly have known what he was saying? Their job as so-called journalists was to COVER THE SPEECHES, not talk over them! But they were under orders from TPTB not to let Sharpton's message get through & to make him look like a buffoon. Which wasn't hard to do. Sharpton is a highly effective speaker -- almost all Black preachers are great public speakers. (Duh! -- you don't get hired to lead a church if you can't move people from the pulpit!) But as inspiring as his words were, Rev. Al wasn't saying anything new or profound. He's a dinosaur, trying to be the self-appointed Negro Leader, like it's still the 60's. To become eligible for federal matching funds, Sharpton needed to raise a lousy $100k (in contributions of not more than $250 apiece) -- & he couldn't do it! Last Aug. he held a fundraiser at Spike Lee's crib on Martha's Vineyard. There's a 50+ year history of well-off Blacks summering there, in a little town called Oak Bluffs, just a few miles away from where the Kennedys & other rich Whitefolks have their summer homes. It was an unstated 'seperate but equal' thing up until the 1980's. Now Blackfolks can buy anywhere on the Vineyard. Spike Lee lives there, along with Vernon Jordan, Henri Louis Gates, Julain Bond -- folks of that ilk. Blackfolks with dough.So how much do you think Shaprton raised? A lousy $8000. Jesse Jackson (both of them) & Al Sharpton have the same political problems EVERY Black candidate has -- we're always trying to do something a day late & a dollar short. Meaning they never manage to develop a solid financial base BEFORE they jump into a political race. Rev. Al's not stupid -- he knew he'd never end up on the Democratic ticket. I appreciate the fact that he campaigned in order to participate in the debates & keep the other guys honest about dealing with racial issues -- I get why that was important. But when you're just an Also Ran, the realpolitiks don't start until you make that backroom deal on Super Tuesday to bow out & hand over your delegates to whomever the party frontfunner will be. THAT'S when the party recognizes your power & has to agree to remember your constituents when they get to the White House. On Super Tuesday, Sharton showed up with only 16 delegates -- Edwards had 220, Kerry had 745. Which ultimately, makes Sharpton look like a joke & hurts the the interests of Blackfolks, who are tired of the Democratic party taking our vote for granted. The only antidote to Fux News & CNN & MSNBC is for Al Franken to get on tv -- which they'll never let happen. Think about it -- I know I've become a big conspiracy theorist since 9/11 -- but think for a minute: In a capitalist system where Hollwyood sells us the basest, most venal programming it can get us to buy, when you're a known commodity like Franken, when you've got a track record as a great stand-up comic, when you've written a best-selling book, you're a Harvard-educated writer & comedian who has the chops to appear on all the talkshows & hold your own -- WHY Wouldn't One of the Networks Want to Give You A Show? When a tennis has-been like fucking John McEenroe has a talkshow, why isn't Al Franken on tv every week? Because the corporate titans who decide what gets on the air & what does not, in order to protect their interests, don't want Al Franken on tv every week! Air America Radio helps. But radio will never be as effective as tv. - RC PS What happend to the italics & boldface & whatnot? I saw someone do a quote in red. Why don't the {b}{/b} thingees work anymore?

Alberta became "seperatist" in a different way than say, Quebec did. With Quebec its all culture and paranoia that they'll be assimilated. With Alberta they feel unrepresented. To win as prime minister you have to be able to speak French and get at least some of the Quebec vote. They never take the effort and their candidates often stupidly get caught dissing Quebect and the Eastern provinces. This election the Conservative leader called all Maritimers "lazy welfare bums". They feel Canada is controlled by Ontario, resent it and have taken on this cavalier "Western" attitude. I dont know where all the cowboy shit and country music came from, but they have that going on too. FOr the last 10 years, they've been run by their premier Ralph Klein who is maybe our most right wing and divisive politician, and who is famously mocked for drinking, the same way you'd mock Kennedy or Boris Yeltsin. so across Canada, BC = leftist, basically California. Alberta, Saskatchewan = right wing Manitoba, ONtario = centrist, half/half, except for Toronto, which is very left Quebec - very left despite Catholicism running wild. The seperatist party Bloc Quebecois currently are running a leftist agenda. New Brunswick, PEI, NOva Scotia and NFLD - right wing, but for this election because STephen Harper called them lazy, voted centrist and leftist. I didnt pay attention to how the Yukon and the Northwest Territories voted.

Spider: Yes, that's morrowind. sucks you right in. We didn't watch the convention because of that game, but then, we know we're voting for Kerry anyway. We didn't need to get inspired or pumped up. Our votes are in the bag, take us for granted, and I don't care about Kerry's Hair or Edwards Derriere. Our token Canadian employee is from Alberta, and he can't write a coherent sentence to save his ass. Most of what I know about Alberta is that a lot of great pro wrestlers come out of there.

yeah, with some notable exceptions the best ones come out of Texas and Alberta. Coincidence?

Well, don't forget Mexico! If Ted Turner was smart, he'd build his new wrestling federation based on luchadores and aim it squarely at the kids. I mean, look at saturday morning tv - there's TWO cartoons that feature luchadores or luchador types. plus, a lot of good wrestlers come out of the midwest too. Can I get a "WHOOOO!"?

I watch Saturday morning cartoons, and I don't see anything about Mexican wrestlers. Am I missing something?

Mucha Lucha is about mexican wrestlers. Plus there's another that features masked wrestlers, which is predominately associated with the Mexican style of professional wrestling.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200407300014

whenever "Savage" is mentioned in the media, I always think it's Dan Savage. You can imagine the mix-up this causes.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040804/ap_on_el_pr/bank_robberies HILARIOUS

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=8253

Can you believe the republicans in the Illinois senate race? Jesus. Anyone for a game of race cards? I mean, crowdsurfin' Alan Keyes? And they got all over Hilary Clinton's shit for coming in from out of state? Fuckers. I'm looking forward to their solid trouncing that they so richly deserve.

Check it: More fun with Katherine Harris. So, either she's releasing classified information, for which she should be prosecuted, or she's just making up shit.

to keyes' credit, he is expressing reluctance about the whole thing. doesn't mean he isn't gonna do it. . . but at least he's not oblivious to the whole issue. i think it was improper for hilary clinton to move in and run for senator.

http://www.kintera.org/atf/cf/%7B06DAEF0E-9000-4422-B4DA-AFBAA10CAF60%7D/FERRELL_QT_HI.MOV hi speed http://www.kintera.org/atf/cf/%7B06DAEF0E-9000-4422-B4DA-AFBAA10CAF60%7D/FERRELL_QT_LO.MOV lo speed

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=7&u=/ap/20040805/ap_on_en_mu/charlie_daniels_arabs

“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” - George W. Bush, Aug 5, 2004

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/218/politics/McCain_condemns_anti_Kerry_ads:.shtml McCain condems anti-Kerry ads

I saw that quote live today, and I hoped someone would catch it. :)

Ah, somebody caught it. :D

http://www.swiftvets.com/ this is insane. None of these men were on John Kerry's boat. 10 of the 11 people John served with are promoting him, and the 11th is dead. The depths...

See, this isn't being done to convince anyone. This is for the people like spunky who might have a shred of doubt if the positive aspects of Kerry's war record weren't answered. All people like that need is a small, feeble line to grasp. "His medals? Oh, he...MADE IT ALL UP, yeah. He didn't REALLY deserve them." Then the world is right again.

yeah. Meanwhile turning a blind eye to Bush's very suspicious military record. The white house came out and made an "unrepudiation" of that ad, which ended up just being a thinly veiled attack on MoveOn.org. I swear to you, I will literally dance in the streets if Bush goes down Nov. 2.

This doesn't tell us anything we didn't know, but it puts it together very nicely. If the mass media wasn't totally co-opted by the right wing, this would be a fantastic piece for some investigative news program.

What the people who made that anti-Kerry ad dont realize is by making that ad they are attacking the military :P - basically saying that they just give medals away for no reason, and that their own awards are worthless!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=684&e=16&u=/ap/eugenics_candidate "heart and soul" indeed

seems pretty popular with the republican voters in his district, doesn't he?

Tennesseein is Tennebelievin!

Graph of terror alerts vs. Bush approval rating. Conclusion: every time there's a terror alert, his rating goes up. The ratings have been increasing in frequency as we approach the election. q.e.d. - DUH!

I'm listening to Mike Malloy on AirAmericaRadio right now. He's the most left wing person they have now on the station, and more abrasive than Randi Rhodes. he's hilarious.

i'm listening, too. i like.

he's not typically 'haha' funny. he's just so abrasive and mad that the way he talks and changes his voice into weird pitches that it works. if he had a different voice it probably wouldnt work for me and I'd just think him an asshole

yeah, i like how he gets all worked up and then catches himself and laughs it off. i listened to savage earlier. alternate fucking reality.

quote of the day on toppling Saddam: "We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq.... There was no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had been consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land." - George Herbert Walker Bush, 1999

It's amazing his nose doesn't grow every time he opens his mouth. Bush & Co. have been planning to to invade Iraq since 2000. http://www.e-thepeople.org/article/28571/view The actual document is 90 pages long in .pdf -- but a document every American should read, IMO. If the Pearl Harbor reference doesn't scare the bejesus out of you in a post-9/11 world, nothing ever will. This document is nothing less than a Smoking Gun -- yet NOBODY in press is talking about it! Seems to me everyone on AirAmericaRadio.com should be discussing this report all day every day & pestering folks to write to their local media outlets asking why their reporters aren't asking the White House about it. Sem says he'll be dancing in the steets if Bush loses in Nov. I'll be sticking my head in an oven if he wins. And with all the problems with those Diebold voting machines, he could easily manage to steal the election yet again. - RC

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040809/ap_on_el_pr/stem_cell_politics_6 ugh and tomorrow's story: Laura Bush: "Earth is flat"

this just in: who gives a shit what politicians spouses think? Why even put a mic in front of them? I don't recall them being elected. Big friggen deal what first ladies think.

i dont care that much, but I think its a window to the character of said politician. I mean, what if Bush was married to an 18 year old? or a parapeligic? these simple things would change perception of the person and possibly/probably rightfully so.

hey you two. get a room. where's patrick?

i wanna retract my statement crediting keyes. malloy is cracking me up. i just have to say that, for years, i have LOVED talk radio and i'm so happy to have air america and radio power. i've been soooo jealous of the traces of the world with their right-wing radio clusterfuckings. not anymore. i don't care if it's biased or unbalanced. i agree with it and that's what i was missing before this spring.

this guy is my political hero. http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/

he's like get your war on without pictures.

he is awesome. He makes Lewis Black sound like a bleating sheep.

http://electionguide04.com/straw_poll.adp HILARIOUS never trust internet voting. Or should I say, more proof AOL is for morons.

ROFLMAO!! that map is the final proof that AOL is for people who can't tie their own shoes.

that is NOT for real.

i keep looking at that thing and thinking my head is going to explode.

i even took a screen shot of it, for posterity. As i shall continue to do, monthly, until Nov.

WOW. it even got worse today, as the Reds have taken new York, leaving Kerry with 13 electoral votes.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200408080001 Bill O'Reilly compares Media Matters to the KKK

yeah, i downloaded that video from bittorrent. that guy needs his ass kicked. fuck fighting with words. FISTICUFFS!

I caught some of that when it aired. Krugman looked a little uncomfortable, as if he was not used to verbally sparring with bullies -- who could blame him -- but he certainly held his own. O'Reilly just made himself look pathetic, as usual.

If I was with O'Reilly and it wasnt O'Reillys show, I'd just let him keep yelling. Or start laughing. It would just be better to watch O'Reilly expose himself.

this is a transcript of an outtake from Fahrenheit 9/11. It is maybe the most damning thing I've seen in some time. Even if you hate Moore, this quote is just... wow. what a scoop. This is fuckin huge. Video available at michaelmoore.com INTERVIEWER: [Y]ou come from intelligence. This is what you did, this is what you know. REP. GOSS: Uh, that was, uh, 35 years ago. INTERVIEWER: Okay. REP. GOSS: It is true I was in CIA from approximately the late 50's to approximately the early 70's. And it's true I was a case officer, clandestine services office and yes I do understand the core mission of the business. I couldn't get a job with CIA today. I am not qualified. I don't have the language skills. I, you know, my language skills were romance languages and stuff. We're looking for Arabists today. I don't have the cultural background probably. And I certainly don't have the technical skills, uh, as my children remind me every day, "Dad you got to get better on your computer." Uh, so, the things that you need to have, I don't have. -- Rep. Porter Goss, March 3, 2004, Washington, DC

I don't find that quote all that damning, really. I mean, it's like a former general saying "I couldn't get a job as a soldier, these days. Boot camp would kill me." To be an administrator, you have to be wise and see the big picture. Goss can do that without being able to do all the jobs of his subordinates. I don't necessarily support Goss' appointment, but trying to criticize him using that quote isn't effective.

I disagree. And I could see a general making that statement, you know, to try and compliment the troops of today, coach-like, reassuring and stuff. From watching the video of Goss it seemed very clear to me that this wasnt one of those things. I dont care if it is administrative. This is someone who flatly says he cant do the job for specific reasons, has openly mocked the investigation into the Plame leak, and on top of this, made shown he can be a vicious partisan through remarks he's made this year against kerry. Say Kerry wins. What do you when your head of intelligence is against you? Is Goss really someone who can be trusted to put his partisanship ahead of his job? What good is there to put anyone in there with such credibility issues?

If Kerry wins, Goss will resign. From what I understand, all the upper-level appointments offer their resignations when the new admin. comes in, as a courtesy. If the new prez wants you, he asks you to stay on, rather then being forced to let you go. - RC

"Precisely because America is powerful, we must be sensitive about expressing our power and influence. Our goal is to patiently build the momentum of freedom, not create resentment for America itself. We pursue our goals; we will listen to others; we want strong friends to join us, not weak neighbors to dominate. In all our dealings with other nations, we will display the modesty of true confidence and strength." -George W. Bush 4/2001 ``America has been in too many wars for any of our wishes, but not a one of them was won by being sensitive,'' Cheney said in remarks prepared for delivery Thursday. ``A sensitive war will not destroy the evil men who killed 3,000 Americans. ... The men who beheaded Daniel Pearl and Paul Johnson will not be impressed by our sensitivity.'' -Dick Cheney 8/2004 Cheney sure is tough on his boss - HAR

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http://www.cspan.org/search/basic.asp?ResultStart=1&ResultCount=10&BasicQueryText=cavett&image1.x=0&image1.y=0&image1=Submit Dick Cavett show 1971 - John O'Neill vs. John Kerry has anyone else watched this?

http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040822/LOCAL/40821054/1078/news&template=printart HA!

Contempt order lifted in CIA leak case By CURT ANDERSON The Associated Press 8/24/2004 WASHINGTON (AP) — Contempt of court orders against Time magazine and one of its reporters were dismissed after the journalist agreed to give a statement to prosecutors probing the Bush administration leak of a covert CIA officer's identity. In a statement Tuesday, Time said reporter Matthew Cooper agreed to give a deposition after Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, personally released Cooper from a promise of confidentiality about a conversation the two had last year. Time and Cooper had been held in contempt earlier this month by U.S. District Judge Thomas F. Hogan for refusing to testify in the leak probe. Hogan rejected their claims, as well as those of "Meet The Press" host Tim Russert, that the First Amendment protected them from having to testify. Cooper had faced up to 18 months in jail and the magazine could have been forced to pay $1,000 a day under the contempt order, which has now been vacated. Russert avoided the contempt citation by agreeing to an interview with prosecutors earlier this month, again after Libby released him from a confidentiality promise. Cooper gave his deposition Monday to the special prosecutor appointed in the case, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald of Chicago, in the Washington office of his lawyer, Floyd Abrams, the magazine statement said. The deposition focused on a single July 2003 conversation about the leak between Cooper and Libby, the statement said. Investigators are trying to find out who in the Bush administration leaked the identity of CIA officer Valerie Plame, whose name was published by syndicated columnist Robert Novak on July 14, 2003. Novak cited two "senior administration officials" as his sources. It can be a felony to leak the name of an undercover officer. The column came out about a week after Plame's husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, was critical in a newspaper opinion piece about President Bush's claim in his 2003 State of the Union address that Iraq sought to obtain uranium in Niger. The CIA had sent Wilson to Niger to investigate that claim, which he concluded was unfounded. Glenn Kessler, a Washington Post reporter, also agreed to an interview in June after Libby agreed to release him from a similar promise. http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/topstories/index.ssf?/base/politics-1/1093362844179800.xml&storylist= basically, this article is inferring that is was Libby who outed Plame to Novak.

Ain't it, though. It's a clever way around any gag order, too. i.e., if Libby said, "If you print 'Libby did it' I'll retaliate" they could easily say, "we never printed that. We only printed the facts." :)

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/ the rude pundit has nailed it on this one. the protest planners need to be prepared to deal with black bloc anarchist types as well as undercover republican operatives who are determined to foment violence and destruction. once the cops go into combat mode, it's all over. period. good for bush, bad for kerry. fucking republicans outsmarted us again. we're so pavlovian.

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awesome. I read that rude pundit essay, too, and I totally agree. The sad thing is, he's one voice in the wilderness, and there's going to be mass stupidity in NYC.

OH SNAP YOU DUN BIN CAUGHT From The Financial Times, December 9th, 2003 ... "The Bush campaign machine, well oiled and already rolling, should not be underestimated. The current president's father gained a formidable reputation as a nasty campaigner, though the presidential fingerprints were carefully wiped off negative blueprints administered by Lee Atwater, the first Mr Bush's ruthless chief strategist. Karl Rove, a disciple of Mr Atwater, is similarly meticulous about keeping the president publicly above the fray. Yet it is an open secret in Washington that White House-blessed campaign strategists have been working quietly for months to compile potentially damaging background on all the Democratic candidates. In the early going, when it appeared Mr Kerry would emerge as the frontrunner, one senior Republican commented wryly: "By the time the White House finishes with Kerry, no one will know what side of the (Vietnam) war he fought on."

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interesting

Rowlfe called it. :)

Holy shit! I forgot about this thread.

He certainly did! Holy shizzle, rowlfe.

Rowlfe was up till 4am last night keeping up with blogs and message boards. It truly was his superbowl. In the few weeks leading up to the election, people would ask him who he thought was going to win. His reply was inevitably: "I don't CARE anymore, I just want it to be OVER so i can SLEEP FINALLY." And so sleep he did, finally.

"...keeping up with blogs and message boards." Specifically, i was watching the Minnesota senate race all the way to 100%, reloading CNN's infographics and guesstimating which counties were firewalls. NEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDD I had five hours sleep, then woke up at 9 to see if there was anything else. had lunch and slept the rest of the afternoon.

btw I hate reading some old threads, because the memories of a lot of the mini-outrages and links, etc are flat out gone, reading what I wrote they may as well have been written by a stranger.

er... I might as well take the opportunity to make another guess for what happens in 2012 Biden decides to retire, Hillary takes his slot on the ticket against Gingrich/Jindal there is not much gut feeling there, so I'm prepared to be wrong :P

I went on Craigslist website very recently, I found this ppl have no regards for themself opening too many unwelcome comment when it comes to the next president. I find this unacceptable.

I find it perfectly acceptable to suggest in all sincereity and gravity that WE IMPEACH BUSH FOR WAR CRIMES AGAINST THE AFGANIS AND IRAQIS, AND IMPEACH CHENEY AND BUSH (and a few of the Wall Street, treasury Dept and etc) FOR CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Let's do this before Bush leaves office. He now wants to dismantle and deregulate every environmental safety law that remains before he leaves office. go "git 'em Rowlfe.

Well, Danielssss, I am sure it will be too late for attemping to IMPEACH Dubya Bush. He going to laugh his ass off when he steps down. But, think of something else that he won't get aways with that.

let's give him the densitometer treatment! bwa-hahahahhahahahahahaha!

Hi ya jack....

well, no shit! can't pull the wool over your nostrils! how are you doing, sherlock holmes?

Well, I am doing fine. jack, thanks for asking.

i'm not jack! i'm joe jellybean jerk! why are you spying on me? are you from the government?

I wish I would work for Governemnt, But I really do know who you are... :-)

they have taken me and my computer

Danielssss, if they took you and your computer, you wouldn't be here to post message.

they posted it....get it?

jack, check Danielssss's post on Saturday, November 8, 2008 - 11:13 am. And see it for yourself.

see what?

action jackson, do you think you can flip yourself over a moving car? bwhahaha! what a jackass..

see what? flip what? bwa ha ahahaha

jack, yes, you know what I was talking about here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkPFcC08nQ4&feature=related What a dumb ass you are. Bwheee hahaha!

yeah, that's me! how did you know?

Everybody know who you are.

Hey jack, are you there? :-)

the men in white have me!!! the men in white have me!!!!

Come on! take that like a man!

Good job again, y'all ;) <3

another election, another fight for protecting the environment, another prayer for the elimination of the nuclear menace, another kidnapping by government officials here in the midwaste, another arizona immigrant smuggled into Oklahoma, another....

More of the same. I do not understand why so many voted for Obama. Gridlock for the next four years.

So conservatives want government doing a lot?

you go Tiggy!!! Slow and steady growth is always better tahn rapid and disastrous decline under the Romnster and Twit.

Dumb just gets dumber and makes no fucking sense. Fuck. I am going to go back to delighting in sanity and Rowlfe-genius.

Yes H, but the good adultering Gen Petraeus rsigned over such an indiscretion (we didn't impeach the commander in cheif when he got a blow job in the Oval Office, nor did we ridicule Kennedy for his Marilyn escapades (oh yeah, PTB killed that one)). So I am figuring that the Good General is resigning because he knows something about Benganzi just like something about 911 FUKU or something equally clandestine and suppressed...are about to break into the consciousness rational or not of the american people...msm or not...the truth will win out. he resigned over something much greater than the affair. Nice to see Mr Obama has time for checking Sorabji.

If Petraeus knew something the best place for him to be would be at the helm where he could do something about it. Why would he resign? And in general it seems the Obama admin has higher standards. Notice that it's been basically scandal free?

What did I say that had anything to do with that? By dumb I am referring to anyone who (doesn't have a billion dollars and) thinks Romney would have been good for them.

I agree with you Heather. Nothing you said had anything to do with the general's resignation but I connected the sanity and insanity with the insanity of his resigning, which would also make me agree with Antigone...that something may be quite amiss with that story. Nothing more. Having a wonderful day sleeping and watching the wind move trees. Sorabjitime is much less upsetting my apple cart than has FB been lately.

Well, I don't accept the story either, but there's honestly no way of knowing what the truth is, so I don't bother speculating much.

If I am tired of getting embarrassed of my country, I think,I might go move to where my great grandfather was born.

Mars?

No, Ukraine, formerly Russian republic.

Mars.

men are from ukraine, women are from romania. i am from moldova.

Π― Π°ΠΌΠ΅Ρ€ΠΈΠΊΠ°Π½ΠΊΠ°.

What does backward "R" means?

It means "I" and is pronounced "ya". Ya amerikanka. I am an American (woman).

kanko = man?

No, the word for an American man or boy is amerikanyets (Π°ΠΌΠ΅Ρ€ΠΈΠΊΠ°Π½Π΅Ρ†). This is American as a noun; American as an adjective is amerikanskiy/амСриканский (masc) or amerikanskaya/амСриканская (fem). Но я Π³ΠΎΠ²ΠΎΡ€ΡŽ Ρ‚ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΎ Π½Π΅ΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ ΠΏΠΎ-русский, Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π½Π΅ ΠΏΠΎΠ²Π΅ΜΡ€ΡŒΡ‚Π΅ ΠΌΠ½Π΅. (BTW, don't run that through Google Translate, because they are dumb. They totally ignore the verb "Π³ΠΎΠ²ΠΎΡ€ΡŽ" - "speak".)

Pronounced "gavarYU"

So this dumb cat of mine dumb cat глупая кошка has been with me for almost two months, and she still hides for 95% of her day. She hides in the closet on top of her favorite box or under the bed. If I go downstairs while she is downstairs, she hides under the dining room table. The only time of the day when she tolerates me being near her is in the evening. Otherwise, when I pet her, she shrinks away from me like a teenaged boy squirming away from his mother's kisses. If I pet her back, she'll drop her belly to the ground in an effort to duck under my hand. It's actually kind of cute, and it beats being scratched or hissed at, but come on already. LET ME PET YOU. YOU ARE SO SOFT. She only seeks me out for pets and love in the middle of the night, when I'm stumbling in the dark in and out of the bathroom. I'll pet her for a few moments, but then, look, I've got to go back to sleep, I've got work in the morning, you ungrateful wretch. She only loves me in the middle of the night. That sounds like a country/western song.

Give her a tree to sleep under. Takes a long time to socialize a skittish animal...I wonder how abused it was before reaching you. And some cats are just very isolative by nature, but most I think get that way because they are hypervigilant and fearful of thier own shadow, like some humans. Turns out that not only was my cat dumped in the woods near my house, she was shot and still carries some bb's in her body as an xray found out not too long ago. Certain days she won't let anyone near here, others, and lately, she is affectionate and when she's had enough, bites or lashes out with the claws. She shows no absolutely no remorse. She is dumbfounded by the humans in her life. Thanks fior the language lesson. I tried learning russian after grad school when I was teaching at a university with a huge russian exchange program. never got it.

Skittish human, meet skittish kitty.

Today she was a different animal altogether. Came out at breakfast and sat in my lap as I did a crossword, played with me in the morning with a new toy that she really likes, sat in the window with me petting her in the afternoon, came out at dinner, played with me a little more in the evening, and just now let me pet her as I gave her her night meal. She even let me handle her paws as I try to prepare her for an eventual nail clipping. I'm sorry for bad-mouthing her. I guess she's just moody. She seems to be naturally timid and submissive -- when she was at her most afraid when she first moved in with me, she never hissed/bristled/scratched/got hostile in any way; she would just duck her head and tremble when I got too close. She was never abused, but she was found at 2 weeks with her littermate in an abandoned car in Philly. She lived with a foster parent for one week, and then was adopted at four weeks by my brother's girlfriend, who spoils her. Maybe being orphaned at a young age and lacking the education that a mother would have taught her has made her a little weird. The goober at four weeks. Just look at that enormous head!

hah aww she's cute; even with a giant head!

living in an abandoned car in Philly is abuse for sure. She will acculturate to humans or not, and whether that is good or bad, who knows.

Ya amerikanka reminds me of this. http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=h3S4dBk4E1g

I have a sketchy cat too. Sometimes cats can be deeply frustrating, even as we love them. Sounds like she'll come around eventually.