Heaven isn't...

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Alex Morehead on Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 02:16 pm:

    I beleive that all heaven is, is a crutch for those people who can't comprehend the truth. That there is no great beyond or god and that we are just a physical and chemical compound, and when we die there will be nothing and we will be dead. Nothing else no happy-go-lucky kind of day. Heaven Isn't real.

By patrick on Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 02:16 pm:

    do you have proof of this? proof of this nothingness?

By Nate on Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 04:49 pm:

    science tends to point to an existance after death. you can't destroy energy, you know.

    maybe you're comprehending the wrong truth?

By Slickypink on Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 05:23 pm:

    i love you nate.

By Antigone on Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 06:06 pm:

    Of course you exist after you die. But do we exist in a way that we would like? How does that "you" change? Do we exist in a way that some form of self aware consciousness lives on? I'd like that, but I don't know if I'm gonna get it.

    For a really fascinating book on the subject from a completely materialistic viewpoint check out Frank Tipler's "The Physics of Immortality"

By heather on Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 06:37 pm:

    if that's true, alex, why are you wasting time posting stuff?

    get out there and tear it up.....not much time and no consequences

By dave. on Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 07:45 pm:

    pointless, but. . .

    HEAVEN \Heav"en\ (h[e^]v"'n), n. [OE. heven, hefen, heofen, AS.
    heofon; akin to OS. hevan, LG. heben, heven, Icel. hifinn;
    of uncertain origin, cf. D. hemel, G. himmel, Icel. himmin,
    Goth. himins; perh. akin to, or influenced by, the root of E.
    heave, or from a root signifying to cover, cf. Goth. gaham[=o]n
    to put on, clothe one's self, G. hemd shirt, and
    perh. E. chemise.]
    1. The expanse of space surrounding the earth; esp., that
    which seems to be over the earth like a great arch or
    dome; the firmament; the sky; the place where the sun,
    moon, and stars appear; -- often used in the plural in
    this sense.
    I never saw the heavens so dim by day. --Shak.
    When my eyes shall be turned to behold for the last
    time the sun in heaven. --D. Webster.
    2. The dwelling place of the Deity; the abode of bliss; the
    place or state of the blessed after death.
    Unto the God of love, high heaven's King. --Spenser.
    It is a knell That summons thee to heaven or to
    hell. --Shak.
    New thoughts of God, new hopes of Heaven. --Keble.
    Note: In this general sense heaven and its corresponding
    words in other languages have as various definite
    interpretations as there are phases of religious
    3. The sovereign of heaven; God; also, the assembly of the
    blessed, collectively; -- used variously in this sense, as
    in No. 2.
    Her prayers, whom Heaven delights to hear. --Shak.
    The will And high permission of all-ruling Heaven.
    4. Any place of supreme happiness or great comfort; perfect
    felicity; bliss; a sublime or exalted condition; as, a
    heaven of delight. ``A heaven of beauty.'' --Shak. ``The
    brightest heaven of invention.'' --Shak.
    O bed! bed! delicious bed! That heaven upon earth to
    the weary head! --Hood.
    Note: Heaven is very often used, esp. with participles, in
    forming compound words, most of which need no special
    explanation; as, heaven-appeasing, heaven-aspiring, heaven-begot,
    heaven-born, heaven-bred, heaven-conducted, heaven-descended,
    heaven-directed, heaven-exalted, heaven-given, heaven-guided,
    heaven-inflicted, heaven-inspired, heaven-instructed, heaven-kissing,
    heaven-loved, heaven-moving, heaven-protected, heaven-taught,
    heaven-warring, and the like.

    Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary,

By Cat on Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 11:33 pm:

    I like the sound of heaven-kissing. I want to get me some of that.

By dave. on Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 12:01 am:

    aw, hell.

    hell (hl)
    Often Hell. The abode of condemned souls and devils in some religions; the place of eternal punishment for the wicked after death, presided over by Satan.

    A state of separation from God.
    The abode of the dead, identified with the Hebrew Sheol and the Greek Hades; the underworld.

    Hell. Christian Science. Mortal belief; sin or error.

    A situation or place of evil, misery, discord, or destruction: “War is hell” (William Tecumseh Sherman).

    Torment; anguish: went through hell on the job.
    The powers of darkness and evil.

    Informal. One that causes trouble, agony, or annoyance: The boss is hell when a job is poorly done.
    A sharp scolding: gave the student hell for cheating.

    Informal. Excitement, mischievousness, or high spirits: We did it for the sheer hell of it.

    A tailor's receptacle for discarded material.

    Printing. A hellbox.
    Informal. Used as an intensive: How the hell can I go? You did one hell of a job. He ran like hell to catch the bus.

    Archaic. A gambling house.
    v. intr. helled, hell·ing, hells. Informal

    To behave riotously; carouse: out all night helling around.
    Used to express anger, disgust, or impatience.
    Idioms: for the hell of it

    For no particular reason; on a whim: walked home by the old school for the hell of it.
    hell on Informal

    Damaging or destructive to: Driving in a hilly town is hell on the brakes.

    Unpleasant to or painful for.
    hell or high water or hell and high water

    Troubles or difficulties of whatever magnitude: We're staying, come hell or high water.
    hell to pay

    Great trouble: If we're wrong, there'll be hell to pay.

By Tired on Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 05:48 am:

    oh boy do I want a hellbox. inbox outbox hellbox.

By semillama on Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 09:57 am:

    To paraphrase a great religious thinker:

    "If, when I die, I find myself in a tunnel of light and all my dead relatives and friends are there to welcome me, well, I'll be pleasantly surprised and glad to admit I was wrong (about the afterlife).

    "However, if I die and that's it, I no longer exist, well, you won't hear me complaing then either."


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