I'm not so sure anymore, are you?

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By spunky on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 01:41 pm:

    The more I sit here and think, the more I get scared.

    1. Iraq- Why?

    First off, I still think we need to get rid of him, and the sooner the better. I really seriously hope when we start, the Iraqi army just gets out of the way and lets us march straight into Bagdad and shoot the fucker between the eyes.
    That is my hope, but in reality, I know there is only a 10-15% chance of that.
    The military does not want this mad man in charge anymore, but if the US fails, god help them all.
    Right now we are the only nation with the balls to do this.

    But I keep thinking back to the Axis of Evil speech.

    What do those countries have in common most?
    What does Chechnya have to do with any of this?

    I think the right and the left are actually both working towards the same goal.

    Each side is just bandling a seperate piece of the goal.

    This not an old goal either, in goes back to the 1910's or even earlier.

    The players have just switched sides.

    Both sides are woking towards unification of everyone. It is just easier to get the public behind it if it appears that each party has different values.

    All want a global economy.
    all want a global society.

    Iraq, Iran, North Korea, and varoius others still stand in the way.

    Most of the EU, Baltic States and American Continent are on board.

    the obsticals are these:

    Family Values

    The goals are these:
    Globalization. Expansion of global linkages, organization of social life on global scale, and growth of global consciousness, hence consolidation of world society.

    1. "[T]he inexorable integration of markets, nation-states, and technologies to a degree never witnessed before-in a way that is enabling individuals, corporations and nation-states to reach around the world farther, faster, deeper and cheaper than ever before . . . . the spread of free-market capitalism to virtually every country in the world " (T.L. Friedman, The Lexus and the Olive Tree, 1999, p. 7-8).

    2. "The compression of the world and the intensification of consciousness of the world as a whole . . . . concrete global interdependence and consciousness of the global whole in the twentieth century" (R. Robertson, Globalization, 1992, p. 8).

    3. "A social process in which the constraints of geography on social and cultural arrangements recede and in which people become increasingly aware that they are receding (M. Waters, Globalization, 1995, p. 3).

    4. "The historical transformation constituted by the sum of particular forms and instances of . . . . [m]aking or being made global (i) by the active dissemination of practices, values, technology and other human products throughout the globe (ii) when global practices and so on exercise an increasing influence over people's lives (iii) when the globe serves as a focus for, or a premise in shaping, human activities" (M. Albrow, The Global Age, 1996, p. 88).

    5. Integration on the basis of project pursuing "market rule on a global scale" (P. McMichael, Development and Social Change, 2000, p. xxiii, 149).

    6. "As experienced from below, the dominant form of globalization means a historical transformation: in the economy, of livelihoods and modes of existence; in politics, a loss in the degree of control exercised locally . . . . and in culture, a devaluation of a collectivity's achievements . . . . Globalization is emerging as a political response to the expansion of market power . . . . [It] is a domain of knowledge." (J.H. Mittelman, The Globalization Syndrome, 2000).


By Nate on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 02:38 pm:

    trace, you should try smoking a lot of pot. like maybe an ounce in a week.

    i want to see how paranoid you can get.

By trace on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 02:54 pm:

    So, you do not think the world is heading towards globalization?

By Nate on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 05:20 pm:

    depends on what you mean by globalization? as definined? global trade? the removal of tariff controls? yes. absolutely.

    we're mostly there. and with the power of communication and travel, you'd have to close borders to stop it.

    are iraq, iran and north korea in the way of globalization? hell no. they're in danger of being left out, and they'll get fucked for it. that's what makes them dangerous.

    and they won't get any less dangerous unless they step up and play ball with the global economy. which means they won't get any less dangerous. which means the rest of the world needs to do something about them.

    i don't see a problem with globalization. nor do i see patriotism, religion or family values as obsticles. i think that's rediculous.

    captialism is the ultimate democracy in globalization. your choices, patriotic, religious, whatever, can be expressed by the products you buy.

    you'll find the socialist leftist youth protest globalization left and right, complaining that it increases the wealth of the wealthy and the poverity of the poor. this is really a selfish view, though, because it considers a wage that is substandard by first world standards to be substandard, period. even though the people who are earning these wages are working because they can make more money (or just have a job, period.)

    further, if we can move towards more pure capitalism through globalization we'll hugely benefit poorer countries. disolve pseudo-socialist practices such as farm subsidies, and poor countries will be able to enter into the global agriculture market.

    overall, globalization will increase not only equity but choice for all people. maintain free channels of communication and trade, and understanding follows. we have a better chance at world peace through globalization than any other means.

By trace on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 06:45 pm:

    I think this is lining up more and more like 1984 then we like to admit.

    A few differences, however.
    In the book, it was 3 states.

    EURASIA comprises the whole of the northern part of the European and Asiatic land-mass, from Portugal to the Bering Strait.

    OCEANIA comprises the Americas, the Atlantic islands including the British Isles, Australasia, and the southern portion of Africa.

    EASTASIA, smaller than the others and with a less definite western frontier, comprises China and the countries in the south of it, the Japanese islands and a large but fluctuating portion of Manchuria, Mongolia, and Tibet.

    The DISPUTED TERRITORIES form a rough quadrilateral with its corners at Tangier, Brazzaville, Darwin and Hong Kong, containing within it about a fifth of the population of the earth.

    In one combination or another, these three super-states are permanently at war, and have been so for the past twenty-five years. War, however, is no longer the desperate, annihilating struggle that it was in the early decades of the twentieth century. It was a warfare of limited aims between combatants who are unable to destroy one another, have no material cause for fighting and are not divided by any genuine ideological difference. It follows that the three super-states not only cannot conquer one another, but would gain no advantage.

    The world is kept at a constant state of war.
    This increases consumsion, so output must always be increased.

    However, I think instead of the collectivism that is practiced in the book it will actually be capitalism that will be our driving economy.

By spunky on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 06:46 pm:

    Sometimes I think it is a good thing, sometimes not

By wisper on Monday, January 20, 2003 - 06:21 pm:

    i always figured that there was never any wars at all between the land divisions in 1984, and that people were just meant to think that there was always a war so that their lives wouldn't seem meaningless, so they had something to work for. And so that they had something to hate, so they could feel good about themselves and be patriotic.

By moonit on Monday, January 20, 2003 - 06:26 pm:

    Australasia Australasia Australasia.

    Why cant they call it Zealandasia?

    Just cause its bigger it gets to use its name to lump all us antiopeaden islands in together. Bloody hell.

    (Where is the cat?)

By wisper on Monday, January 20, 2003 - 06:26 pm:

    ...i thought that because i figured it's what i'd do if i was Big Brother.

    I imagine that how people interpret parts of the book says something about them.

    Like how i always connected with big brother rather than any of the lame human main characters.
    "this dude is awesome...!"

By moonit on Monday, January 20, 2003 - 07:49 pm:

    Trace this is for you:

    Osama Bin Laden - Cave Memo

    The following message was intercepted by the CIA last week and has mysteriously found its way on to the Internet -

    Subject: Memorandum
    From: Bin Laden, Osama
    To: All Al Queda Fighters

    Subject: The Cave

    Hi guys. We've all been putting in long hours recently but we've really come together as a group and I love that! However, while we are fighting a jihad, we can't forget to take care of the cave, and frankly I have a few concerns:

    First of all, while it's good to be concerned about cruise missiles, we should be even more concerned about the dust in our cave. We want to avoid excessive dust inhalation, (a health and safety issue) - so we need to sweep the cave daily. I've done my bit on the cleaning roster have you? I've posted a sign-up sheet near the cave reception area (next to the halal toaster).

    Second, it's not often I make a video address but when I do, I'm trying to scare the hell out of most of the world's population, okay? That means that while we're taping, please do not ride your scooter in the background or keep doing the 'Wassup' thing. Thanks.

    Third: Food. I bought a box of Dairylea recently, clearly wrote Ossy" on the front, and put it on the top shelf. Today, two of my Dairylea slices were gone. Consideration. That's all I'm saying.

    Fourth: I'm not against team spirit and all that, but we must distance ourselves from the Infidel's bat and ball games. And Please - do not chant "Ossy Ossy Ossy, Oy Oy Oy" when I ride past on the donkey. Thanks.

    Five: Graffiti. Whoever wrote "OSAMA F*CKS DONKEYS" on the group toilet wall. It's a lie, the donkey backed into me, whilst I was relieving myself at the edge of the mountain.

    Six: The use of chickens is strictly for food. Assam, the old excuse that the 'chicken backed into me, whilst I was relieving myself at the edge of the mountain' will not be accepted in future. (With donkeys, there is a gray area.)

    Finally, we've heard that there may be Western soldiers in disguise trying to infiltrate our ranks. I want to set up patrols to look for them. First patrol will be Omar, Muhammad, Abdul, Akbar and Dave.

    Love you lots, Group Hug. Os.

    PS - I'm sick of having "Osama's Bed Linen" scribbled on my laundry bag.- Cut it out, it's not funny anymore.

By Czarina on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 10:47 am:

    Cleanliness is next to Allahliness

By spunky on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 01:57 pm:

    that was the funniest thing I have read in a long time.

By Dr Pepper on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 01:44 am:

    I am not sure about President of the U.S and President of Iran, These two side are sending a mixed signal.

By patrick on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 02:21 pm:

    DP, when your a jackass, it seems this way. Try not to take on too much.


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