What to do when drinking doesn't help

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By Sleepless not in Seattle on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 08:46 am:

    I guess this is as good a place as any,

    I have been having some serious problems sleeping recently, even though I'm exhausted at the end of the day.

    I work all day, exercise for a bit relax with a book or the TV, then after a while I start to feel sleepy.

    Off I go to bed (so far so good) as soon as I hit the pillow I'm wide awake.

    Even tried to drink myself to sleep. doesn't work.

    I am now averaging 1.5-2hrs a night. This has gone for about 3 weeks now, I'm begining to lose.

By Czarina on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 09:51 am:

    yes--------apparently you've lost your train of thought

By Sleepless on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 10:40 am:


    ....lose it.

By J on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 10:47 am:

    Are you under a lot of stress?Anything traumatic hapen?

By J on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 10:47 am:

    Are you under a lot of stress?Anything traumatic happen?

By Sleepless on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 11:35 am:



    Not really, jobs not especially hard or anything, no trama in my life (at this moment)

By Waffles on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 11:53 am:

    screwing drinking and smoking usually does it for me, i had a friend who recently had bouts with insomnia, that would have to be the worst. I think i would go crazy......anything you are missing these days......someone not respecting you, are you worried, are you afraid.........my friends was inherently worried about his roomate situation for his last roomate bruned the house down...LITERALLY...and when his new roomates started to get stupid on him, he decided he would stay awake for the onslaught of bullshit....ANYTHING at all that could be causing this......jes wait till Beav comes around, he will be able to recommend something over the counter or even by prescription that would help you out...good luck, god knows that would be my worst nightmare if I couldn't sleep

By Lost my license pharmacist on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 12:07 pm:

    try over the counter benedryl

By Fetidbeaver on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 12:22 pm:

    As always you can use Benadryl (over the counter)
    or ask your Dr. for Ambien (prescription) What I find very effective is watching Titantic or reading through "friendly's" old postings*

    *caution may cause severe neurochemical imbalances leading to suicide in 31.7% of affected individuals.

By Nate on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 02:31 pm:

    Alcohol metabolization leads to a product much like adrenaline (if not adrenaline.) i don't know enough about it to give details. i do know that drinking yourself to sleep only works if you sleep fast enough (or pass out.)

    otherwise, it makes things worse.

    try a hot shower right before getting into bed. and three shots of nyquil.

By Sarah on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 02:59 pm:

    substantial doses of valium never hurt.

By Rhiannon on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 03:10 pm:

    [insert my obligatory Nyquil warning here]

    Don't do it, man!

By Nate on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 03:21 pm:

    if you're not afraid to get in a car, you shouldn't be afraid to drink some nyquil.

    really, spiidah.

By Rhiannon on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 03:45 pm:

    Look, if i take it once, nothing happens. But when i take it a second time it makes my heart race up to 130 bpm, all while i'm lying immobile and feverish in bed, and it scares the hell out of me because it's supposed to be making me sleepy and instead it's making me want to climb the walls. Something's not right about that, now, is it?

    Sleeping pills do the same thing. Okay, so maybe it's just me who's the freak who can't process these chemicals...but what if I'm not the only one?

    At least when i'm in a car i have the option of turning it off.

By Waffles on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 03:54 pm:

    ritalin is like a speed when it's taken (ideally snorted) by someone who doesn't have "ADD", some drugs have the opposite effect like that. I knew a girl who got jumpy on valium.......i felt sorry for her....

    I think NyQuil has pseudoephedrine in it, which can keep you up.......white cross, trucker speed as it's otherwise known

By Nate on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 04:00 pm:

    turn it off when you first realize the grizzled cunt in the SUV is about to destroy you, or turn it off as the last thing you do before the rip in your femural artery barfs the last splash of blood that was keeping you conscious?

    highways kill more people than nyquil.

    goddamn, spider, you turn me on.

    i can't figure it out. i think it's the militant anti-drug catholicness. if you're about 19-20, you're on my chemical timeline. i was militant anti-drug then.

    i dropped the catholicness around 16, though. i had to threaten the 'rents. "Either you let me back out of the holy roman crime family quietly, or i'll embarass the hell out of you in front of the bishop."

    Of course, the bishop just stepped down after admitting sexual relations with one of the priests in the diocese. priest cries blackmail
    led to his involvement in the sexcapade, but you never know. Man of god, man of men. same story, different priests.

    anyway, i'm slipping off my thought tracks.

    so where does the turn on come from? is it the idea that you could save me, or the idea that i could corrupt you? a yin to yang, or a yang to be yinned?

    i guess it's all irrelevant. nothing more than a mental experiment with shady parameters.

By Rhiannon on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 04:03 pm:

    I've had to take Ativan before, and that doesn't work for me either, because oh sure....it makes me sleepy, but it does nothing for the anxiety! So I'm really tired and really nervous. What good is that?!

By Rhiannon on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 04:07 pm:

    Well, um, Nate, I don't know what to say other than i'm already as corrupt as I'd like to be, but thanks for the offer...and that only you can save yourself. Or, one day, you'll come to your senses and ask God to save you. Either way, i'm not in the picture. Nonetheless, thank you for the complement. I think.

By Margret on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 04:35 pm:

    Benadryl puts me out, pseudoephedrine (Sudafed, boysengirls) makes me really groggy and gives me nightmares/hallucinations/visions. Nyquil will in fact put me into the happy place coma...in fact, the only drug which makes me speedy (that I've actually TRIED) is nicotine, which also makes me less depressed.
    Which is part of my problem with the quitting smokin' thang.
    Caffeine, by the way, doesn't speed me up or keep me up no matter how late in the day I drink it.
    I think my body chemistry must actually turn every drug it encounters into, well, smack or something.
    Always so sleepy.

By Rhiannon on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 04:47 pm:

    I'm the same way with caffeine -- I think it actually makes me tire. Same with Vivarin / No-doz...they don't work at all.

    I never got sugar rushes when I was little, either.

By Waffles on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 05:20 pm:

    have you ever tried smack margret?

By Cyst on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 06:14 pm:

    I love pseudoephedrine.

    even if it's pseudo-sudafed, it always comes in those cute little red pills.

    I can take 'em and pretend I'm not sick.

    is there any good, totally free porn on the web? standard porn -- young hot naked chicks. or is it all tease, click on a photo and come up with a credit card registration form?

By Waffles on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 06:42 pm:

    you not lookin the right places dear, it's out there.....do you want pure smut or would you like refined more tamed erotica.....

    me and friends used to take that shit and drive all over the fuckin southeast.....our standard trip fare (in my friends 67 VW bus pop top) was a bottle of those things, (which was 100 pills for $5.95) a hit of acid each, a bag o'mary and we hit the road.....we would take like 2 or 3 of those things an hour......the bus could only do max 70mph down hill so we weren't getting anywhere fast)..we could have written books about our intoxication with those things....

By Gee on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 07:26 pm:

    I say corruption. Boys love to taint purity. That's why they're so wild about virgins.

    That's my theory, anyway.

By Waffles on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 07:41 pm:

    i wouldn't say we love to *taint*, i would dare say, it's quite the opposite......we admire the purity.........we like to feel exclusive, special, the best......I have never understood the virgin thing, they are the worst lays simply due to inexperience.........personally, i like for a woman to know what she is doing, free of insecurity and inhibition............otherwise i would say the attraction to virgins is simply the physical aspect of it..

    where did this subject come from anyway?

By Margret on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 07:50 pm:

    Tried smack?
    Uh, no, that's why I said "or something..."
    Here is the comprehensive list of illegal drugs I have put in my body:
    Cannabis (multiple times)
    Dilysergic acid (once)
    Psilocybin (once)
    Crank (once, by accident...don't take pot from strangers, people)
    Speed (once, to write a paper. it wasn't good for me).
    Alcohol before I was of legal drinking age.
    There you have it.
    I think I was a virgin once.

By Margret on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 07:53 pm:

    Oh, and my somnolent life has been punctuated by periods of hardcore insomnia. When I'm in insomniac mode, there IS no help for it. But when I'm just having a little trouble falling asleep, I find I can make myself fall into slumberland by singing a song in my head. For me, the song is "Across the Universe," but you may want to focus on something that's especially hypnotic for you. I have an internal music video I play behind my eyes and the whole deal...

By Cyst on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 07:56 pm:

    whatever, waffles. smut. free. that's the important part. list some urls.

By Waffles on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 08:10 pm:

    in your mind margret, whats the difference between speed and crank. to me they both represent meth....perhaps I am missign something..just for fun i think i will try making my list

    cannibis (duh!)
    Special K (horse tranquilizer)
    peyote (in a pill form of which I was skeptical of)
    heroin (once, snort, not shoot)
    MDMA (the weird strains of "x" these days prove much better than this stuff, this stuff was like taking a blue with a stiff drink)
    various narcotics including (valium, xanex, demoral, buzpars, dilaudid, darvocets, tylenol 3 & 4, straight up coedine, vicodin...)
    whippits (spell?)

    i think that covers it.....

By Waffles on Wednesday, October 20, 1999 - 08:15 pm:

    i have alink at home cyst, i'll post it later.....it's a smorgas borg of porn, entirely free...they have catagories you have never dreamed of

By _____ on Thursday, October 21, 1999 - 02:33 am:

    cyst, what you need is one of them password sites. let's see. . . try this.

By Cyst on Thursday, October 21, 1999 - 10:07 am:

By Cyst on Thursday, October 21, 1999 - 10:09 am:

    the scene with the foliage, they're whipping each other with birch branches. it really is part of the russian steam bath experience.

By Mr. Worthington on Thursday, October 21, 1999 - 11:04 am:

    look out, benadryl causes prostate problems, read the fine print. guys.

By Dr.Dick on Thursday, October 21, 1999 - 11:10 am:

    But implants come in ANY size you want!

By Maid marion on Thursday, October 21, 1999 - 11:30 am:

    better to save the redwood,no matter the cost----
    than to cast your fallen daisy to the wind.

    because,sometimes you can't see the forest,for the trees!

By Waffles on Thursday, October 21, 1999 - 11:39 am:

    yeah...well you can't pick up your ashes once they have fallen either so ..........

By Ntateate on Thursday, October 21, 1999 - 12:28 pm:

    last night i got on AOL at a neighbor's and went straight to the born again chat rooms.

    like the 14 year old sex talk chat rooms, there were very few born agains.

By N.b. on Friday, October 22, 1999 - 05:22 pm:

    the one that impressed me was the chain saw. that's not natural...

    an axe would have been more traditional and present fewer risks from wood chips, etc.

By Semillama on Sunday, October 24, 1999 - 05:23 pm:

    For you natural types, Valerian root is a sedative, although you have to swallow quickly because it smells like old socks. Of course, it wasn't mentiond by SNIS whether s/he/it was suffering adverse effects from the insomnia. If not, get a hobby.


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