Yes...they can..... Can men and women just be friends?: Yes...they can.....
By Skunkjuice Lefkowitz on Sunday, April 19, 1998 - 08:58 am:
    and they can fuck each others brains out at the same time...

By Kelsey on Tuesday, April 21, 1998 - 02:50 am:

By Black Knight on Tuesday, April 21, 1998 - 07:47 am:
    Mu. (The proper answer to a question with incorect asumptions).

    Yes. No.

    I desire all of my female friends in the same proportion that I like them as people.

    So what?

    One of my very closest friends is an ex-girlfriend. Rationally, you could not PAY me to have sex with her again, but I still lust after her. And I lust after all the other women I am close to. Doesn't mean I leer or grope. I like them, and I want to express it fully. And yes, I have a fair number of female friends, all but one of which I have never had sex with, and with one exception, I probably never will (one other I might get involved with, on some level, when her life stabilises (going through too many transitions right now)).

    So, is this a problem? I don't think so, I know what the bounds of the relationships are, and I don't push them, or in many cases even desire too.

By PetRock on Tuesday, April 21, 1998 - 01:53 pm:
    Which might explain your recent 5 year anniversary...

By Black Knight on Tuesday, April 21, 1998 - 11:49 pm:
    The not pushing the boundries? Oh yes, yes indeed. On the other hand, as I said, I was not in a headspace for a sane relationship, and I've had enough co-dependant relationships to know better than to want a bad relationship.

By Antigone but only metaphorically on Thursday, May 28, 1998 - 04:22 pm:
    Black Knight has a good point, and I couldn't agree more. Being a man I desire all of the women around me. I can't help it. Lust comes up completely unbidden, and to suppress it would be impossible. But, like any normal human being, I can feel several emotions at once. I also don't have to act on everything I feel. So, I compartmentalize the lust into a corner when I need to. No problem...

By Perplexed on Monday, June 29, 1998 - 05:01 pm:
    why do you lust after all your female friends? it is admirable that you can admit it, yet it is insulting to your friends, and to men, that you use the lame excuse of it being some kind "thing" that just happens to guys when they are around women.

By Matt on Monday, June 29, 1998 - 05:32 pm:
    they can be but they don't want to be friends

By Whet on Tuesday, June 30, 1998 - 10:13 pm:
    Sorry for jumping in here but it pretty much PISSES me off when WOMEN tend to say things like Ohhhhhh he's a friend and I could NEVER think of him sexually, then turn right around and see some other guy and about wet their pants in lust. Like there is a totally different set of rules for men and women in that regard. Like its black and white or something. Its NOT like that for men usually.

    Men are VISUALLY stimulated in many cases, and if a woman friend comes by one day with her tits hanging out of COURSE for a moment he is gonna think sexually. And if he's honest enough to admit it, usually gets smacked right in the face too, if not right then after the fact when they've had time to be insulted thinking about it.

    The point that no one seems to realize or recognize is men and women are DIFFERENT.

    Ok example time. A guy sees a woman that under normal circumstances would think is unattractive or not his type or whatever. In the right circumstances, a really good flash of tit or ass, or SAYING something to him seductive, pushing his buttons, being sensual or whatever, will make the man think of her sexually, for at least a minute or two.
    Thats just how men are put to gether.

    On the other hand, if a woman sees a male friend in a sexual state or catches a glimpse of him pissing or something thinks of it as either funny or gross. See the difference?

    Now before anyone beats me up on this, THINK ok? I'm talking mabe a 80% accuracy thing, and if anyone is terribly offended by this THINK about OTHER people, like the kind tha make up most of the world.

    Look at advertising, the science of appealing to people to get their money. WHAT do they use on MEN, then what do they use on WOMEN????
    EH EH EH??
    am I getting through here?
    Its done cause it WORKS. it makes MONEY.

    Sure its taking advantage of some gut level instinct, but thats exactly my point - its INSTINCT.

    PLEASE don't get too pissed at a male friend if from time to time he accidentally has sexual thoughts about you. Take it as a compliment and move on.

    BTW for the record, I have NEVER had sex with a woman friend. I am a VERY physical person, I hug a LOT.

    I LIKE women friends. Women are wonderful. Right now women are the best friends I have EVER had in my entire LIFE. I can't talk about how wonderful or it will make me teary.

    The ones I respect the most, are the real friends, that when my instinct does show its ugly self every now and then, just smile or give me a gentle reminder and its over with, and we get on with our lives or we joke about it have fun and still are great friends. Let a man be a man, and if he makes a mistake then talk it out. Thats very important.

    I don't think its an INSULT at ALL DAMMIT.

    If a woman friend is for an instant or however long sexually attracted to me, I think its wonderful. It DON"T mean we're gonna fuck or anything at all. Its just whatever comes naturally. I don't know. Its just the thought of someone that cares about me also wanting me. It doesn't matter if we NEVER do anything about it, I'm totally comfortable with it being there. Its just a compliment.

    I hope no one is implying they can NOT have friends if there is sexual attraction. Is it even sexual or just love from the friendship getting mingled and confused anyway? Its shades of mush.

    And another thing. Its NOT all just instinct and impulse.
    Its also love and caring and feelings. Sometimes you really really love someone and might think about taking that love and expression to a different level. Hopefully thats part of people falling in love then getting married all that stuff.

    So to pretend it doesn't happen I think is bullshit. Otherwise thats admitting you fucked them first then became friends later, or became friends and never fucked, and to say that you only fuck people that aren't you friends is pretty sad. I'm not saying go cross the line right now, but THINK about all the people you have been in relationships with before in life, and how did it happen?

    To me, there is no better dream than having a friend, getting closer and closer and closer to them, ultimately falling in love with them, and making it sexual. Hopefully thats what happens in marriage. Its such a beautiful, wonderful, awsome thing, to be totally dedicated and open and vunderable all at the same time. And to have no boundaries in pleasing your partner with the trust that comes in such a relationship. Sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't. I hope to have that some day.

By -oDDBALL oDD- on Tuesday, July 14, 1998 - 01:25 pm:
    Women that deny men's biology as "juvenile" or "boorish" are idiots and assholes. Men are wired for instant it or not. If not, fuck you.

By Carrie Ann on Wednesday, July 15, 1998 - 05:30 am:
    *Applauds Whet* So can I be your friend too? Hrmmm?? Can I can I?? Hehe. But yeah, I agree with ya. I have some of THE best guy friends right now that I have EVER had & they mean the world to me. Sure, I will be honest and say that I have thought about taking it to a different level at one time or another with them. I mean, c'mon I'm only human! Course I have yet to act on those feelings, but that's totally by choice. (And my big burly boyfriend. *laugh*) Anyway, I whole heartedly agree with what you said. =)

    Oddball: You go boy. ;) Dunno if I woulda put it exactly in those worrrrrrds, but hehe. Right on.

By Whet on Wednesday, July 15, 1998 - 10:42 pm:
    Sure Carrie... come on over - make yourself comfortable, and be yourself.

    I like friends.
    Let me tell you how I feel about my best friend. I think she is the most beautiful and sensuous creature to ever grace the sand of this earth with her footprint - but I doubt we will *ever* have sex or even come close. Though I'm physically attracted to her, I wouldn't because I love and respect her and her partner. Sure, sex with her would be the most earth shattering incredible experience of my entire life - but even in my dreams all I do is hold or kiss her. And those are the most wonderful dreams in the world. I wish I could have one tonight. :)

By Carrie Ann on Thursday, July 16, 1998 - 09:29 pm:
    Woo hoo! *Puts on her bathing suit & heads over to Whet's with a pint of Pina Coladas*

    Hehe, I'm just not liking this humidity AT ALL. Heat.. Sun... I can take. But when it gets muggy, humid, sticky.. just no fun.

By Whet on Friday, July 17, 1998 - 09:22 pm:
    Hey Carrie Ann!
    Come on down, I'll crank up the ac just for you dear :)

By Carrie Ann on Saturday, July 18, 1998 - 02:13 am:
    YaY!! Muchos gracias, Whet dearie. I would do anything for some ac right about now.

    *Collapses on the futon * Whew... I am done packing and will be in my new house tomorrow.. Can I get an AMEN?! Heh. AMEN AMEN and AAAAAAAAAMEN. Then I have a rave to go to tomorrow afternoon ("Sexydelic" -free, outside rave, clothing optional, body paint & mud provided.. w00ha!), Garth Brooks <Trisha Yearwood> concert after that, then on Sunday the Bite Of Seattle & a get together with some friends. Pretty full weekend.

By DARRIN on Saturday, July 18, 1998 - 02:58 am:
    And all along, I though ODDBALL was ASEXUAL!heheh Very surprised to hear him use the word ERECTION in a sentence!heheheehehehh

Zach b on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 02:03 am:

    i am 14 and i am single and i wannta try gay sex with my best friend i wannta suck his suddel cock and fuck his tiny ass his is 14 i have know him since i was 7 . we shower with each other butt have never touched each other cocks and we talk about size and masterbate in front of each other so i have see his cock alot and he has see mine and i want him to fuck my ass hole and suck my cock how do i go about asking him i mean we feel normal nude in front of each other and we watch each other masterbate and i just want to try since we do all this so what should i do and how shuold i ask him all my other friends has had gay sex is this normal plez e-mai lme don't be shy

By Dozer on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 12:37 pm:

    Watch my lips guys;


    Save yourself the trouble just hand over your wallet and let them get on with it.

By I hate gays on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 03:16 pm:

    dozer you big fat gay wad

By Dani on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 05:21 pm:

    That was pretty rude, fuck face.

By The Watcher on Monday, November 26, 2001 - 06:23 pm:

    What's with this Zach.

    The same inane question posted three times in Sorabji Land.

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