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there is something about Clark that really disturbs me. he's a scary man. |
fox is hostile to democrats and clark knows it. good for him. of course, i'm in the angry liberal minority and anything short of clark slapping a submission hold on that smug little fuck and demanding he take it back doesn't go far enough for me. that said, clark bugs me too. and he's weird looking. |
This guy has no real vision of his own and is purely pole driven, just like his mentor. |
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If he was Republican I'd still get a big kick out of Clark, just as I really like McCain, and to a lesser extent and for diffrent reasons, Bob Dole. "This guy has no real vision of his own " yeah, like the last few presidents the US has had have had their OWN vision, rather than the vision of their handlers and their campaign contributors. please, spunk. I'm glad Clark lost his temper. It actually made me buy into the idea that Clark is fearless. He's had a lot worse things to deal with than media smear, so obviously he's not going to sit around and take subtle jab bullshit from some FOXNews pissant, as if he had their support to lose. Being an honest and emotional candidate might in some ways be foolish, but I think Clark has more to gain from this approach, getting out people who dont care about politics... which surprises me, because when I first started hearing about Clark running I assumed he'd be much more hard-edged, in a cold, negative way, and if he won it would be because he'd win Reps over, rather than drag nonvoting liberals out to vote. With this new footage he comes across as Tough Grampa with Heart of Gold. It plays to both sides and I think it will work. I like him. Even with all the patriotism he's tried to surround himself with to boost his ratings, could you ever, EVER, see Bush on TV, convincingly say he literally, LOVES, his troops? |
its put-up/shut-up time, spunk show us how he has no vision of his own. I'm not saying you can't do it, I just want to make sure you know what you're parroting. |
Badly. Stay out of clarke's camp. |
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Badly. Stay out of clarke's camp" keepe talking spunke. so you WOULDNT support Clarke if he was running on a Republicane ticket? I finde that very harde to believe. |
if i could vote for your prez, between Clark and Dean and the rest, I'd go with Dean. I'd maybe even put Kerry ahead. Still very early for anyone to decide, don't you think? disclaimer provided just incase you were wondering, or think this thread as some sort of endorsement, when its really just to point out a fine piece of news footage. |
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I think we need more emotion. Not emotion WWF style but certainly more candor. Especially when it comes to politiians dealing with "journalist" like that. |
FoxNewsSunday is the worst, actually. Tony Snow has got to be my least favorite. Now theres a parrot that has never come up with anything by himself. |
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Fox spins a Clark quote as against the troops. Clark calls FOX on their bias, says he loves the troops and how dare they try to question that, of all things. FOX guy does the "i'm just saying" pussy-ass Haskell routine. |
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"I am pro-choice, I am pro-affirmative action, I'm pro-environment, pro-health. That's why I'm proud to be a Democrat." "I would have been a Republican if Karl Rove had returned my phone calls." War with Iraq: "Let's make one thing real clear, I would never have voted for this war. I've gotten a very consistent record on this." "At the time, I probably would have voted for war in Iraq, but I think that's too simple a question. " "I've said it both ways because when you get into this, what happens is you have to put yourself in a position -- on balance, I probably would have voted for it." "That having been said, I was against the war as it emerged because there was no reason to start it when we did." "I never would have voted for war. What I would have voted for is leverage. Leverage for the United States to avoid a war. That's what we needed to avoid a war." Uhh, come again? what leverage? "We are going to ask, Why are we engaged in Iraq, Mr. President — tell the truth! Why, Mr. President? Was it because Saddam Hussein was assisting the hijackers? Was it because Saddam Hussein had a nuclear weapon that might bring a nuclear cloud? We don't know. And that's the truth. And we have to ask that question." "Mary, help!" "Stop. Stop. I promised I wasn't going to take a strong position." Wesley Clark: A man who absolutely knows where he stands. Maybe. |
Maybe." http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.php?reposid=/multimedia/tds/stewart/jon_7131.html Goerge Bush: A man who absolutely knows where he stands. Less than maybe. and your 'political affiliation' proves nothing. Its not out of the question for a republican to be pro-choice. Look at Clintons record. I could go through his record and show you just how Republican he was. it only goes to show just how close the two parties have become. Which is why like I said, Dean would be a better candidate, if only to see an actual liberal running. The Reps dont even know it, but they asked for this, they said stuff all time like "oh he's too liberal, they need someone close to centre if they're going to win".. now they've got one, and BAM! "but he could have been a republican!" Har har. thats what you get for basically trying to endorse Liebarmann on behalf of the Dems. so now i've answered your questions, now you tell me. if Clark was running Republican would you vote for him? You're sure not overlooking the articles showing him changing opinions, but I bet you will overlook my Bush link. Whats up with that spunke. Now what is up with THAT? Do I hear a parrot? I's do's believe's I do's. |
there are reasons to oppose Clark's bid for president, but they seem lost on you. polly want a cracker. |