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By Spider on Wednesday, May 16, 2001 - 09:51 am:

    If I recall corectly, e wrote a poem in which he said that pornography bored him and that the most beautiful sight is a woman in a long dress. What is the name of this poem and which collection is it in?


By patrick on Wednesday, May 16, 2001 - 11:35 am:

    i'll ask sam, he'll know....


By Paul on Wednesday, May 16, 2001 - 04:25 pm:

    he must of been drunk


By patrick on Wednesday, May 16, 2001 - 05:42 pm:

    sam has read the majority of his work and didnt recognize the line right away...he said "the man said so many cool statements like its hard to isolate them"


By Cat on Wednesday, May 16, 2001 - 06:25 pm:

    Sorry Spider, don't know it. But I like this one:

    alone with everybody


    the flesh covers the bone
    and they put a mind
    in there and
    sometimes a soul,
    and the women break
    vases against the walls
    and the men drink too
    much
    and nobody finds the
    one
    but keep
    looking
    crawling in and out
    of beds.
    flesh covers
    the bone and the
    flesh searches
    for more than
    flesh.

    there's no chance
    at all:
    we are all trapped
    by a singular
    fate.

    nobody ever finds
    the one.

    the city dumps fill
    the junkyards fill
    the madhouses fill
    the hospitals fill
    the graveyards fill

    nothing else
    fills.


By Pug on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 09:15 am:

    One of my faves:
    "Sexual intercourse is like kicking death in the ass while singing."
    ----from NOTES OF A DIRTY OLD MAN

    On a big TALES OF ORDINARY MADNESS kick right now.....particularly liking "Notes of a Potential Suicide". A precursor to the other "Notes"? Not sure----chronologically retarded....


By Rhiannon on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 09:16 am:

    Maybe Sam will remember this: I think the poem included a line about how a *ahem* beaver shot was about as exciting as an overcooked hamburger. Or something like that.


By Nate on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 10:16 am:

    you're so cute spider. *ahem*


By Rhiannon on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 10:49 am:

    I don't normally use such language. So bite me.


By Nate on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 11:27 am:

    beaver shot?

    oh my.


By Spider on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 11:55 am:

    Stop that, too. Don't make me want to pound you into submission.


By patrick on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 12:18 pm:

    What happens when you use such language?

    Actually Im pretty sure he'd love a pounding, into submission. He is practically asking for it.






    I have some suggestions on how to succesfully wrangle a boy...without using the typical instruments of submission.


    i think nate's is waiting for the catholic girl to shed her skin.


By Spider on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 12:47 pm:

    Please. How boring.


    I have a brother. I know all about using one's bare hands for wrangling and wrestling and beating and strangling. I'd like to be on the giving end for a change.


By Spider on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 12:48 pm:

    Cat, I like that poem.


By Nate on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 12:59 pm:

    i like how it's ok to be violent but sex is just dirty and foul.


By Rhiannon on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 01:04 pm:

    Not all sex. Just sex with me.


By patrick on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 01:14 pm:

    i wasnt necessarily speaking physically either.

    come on, your perceived innocence begs for ALL of this.


By Spider on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 01:34 pm:

    I don't mean to beg for anything. i'm not being coy. I just don't like using crass phrases....that's what started this. I'm not innocent. You can't understand. That's all I have to say about this.


By patrick on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 01:41 pm:

    note i said perceived

    and of course you don't beg for it. Ive never thought you to be a coy individual.

    I don't understand, I've tried, but you have never really divulged much to help me understand.

    Its ok, you don't have to explain or justify anything at all.


By patrick on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 01:41 pm:

    i kind of like the mystery of spider


By Spider on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 02:37 pm:

    Thank you, Patrick. but there's not much mystery.

    Oof, I been tired.

    "Burning in Water, Drowning in Flame" -- that might be the name of the collection that my mystery poem is in. It has an orange cover, I remember.


By Pug on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 05:33 pm:

    I'm dirty and foul....
    But only on alternate Thursdays.


By Fb on Friday, May 18, 2001 - 03:23 am:

    "Beaver Shot"?
    "Beaver"?
    "Fetidbeaver"?


By Spider on Saturday, May 26, 2001 - 09:58 pm:

    Found it!!



    O tempora! O mores!


    I get these girly magazines in the mail because
    I'm writing short stories for them again
    and here in these pages are these ladies
    exposing their jewel boxes -
    it looks more like a gynecologist's
    journal -
    everything boldly and clinically
    exposed
    beneath bland and bored physiognomies.
    it's a turn-off of gigantic
    proportions:
    the secret is in the
    imagination -
    take that away and you have dead
    meat.

    a century back
    a man could be driven mad
    by a well-turned
    ankle, and
    why not?
    one could imagine
    that the rest
    would be
    magical
    indeed!

    now they shove it at us like a
    McDonald's hamburger
    on a platter.

    there is hardly anything as beautiful as
    a woman in a long dress

    not even the sunrise
    not even the geese flying south
    in the long V formation
    in the bright freshness
    of early morning.




By semillama on Sunday, May 27, 2001 - 01:26 pm:

    I am aligned with the statement "There is hardly anything as beautiful as a woman in a long dress."


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