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By semillama on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 03:39 pm:

    I always thought that the tv show that Daria watched in the cartoon was a good idea.

    Maybe here could be a thread discussing such things (i would suggest leaving articles related to the War on Terrorisma and Iraq to their own threads though):

    Let's start with an example of the Christian tradition in America:
    http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/local_news/article/0,1406,KNS_347_1744221,00.html


By jack on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 03:42 pm:

    that's pretty good, but i would actually submit the war on terrorism and iraq threads themselves. i'll see if i can come up with anything else.


By patrick on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 03:49 pm:

    who is Daria?


By jack on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 03:55 pm:


By Spider on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 04:24 pm:

    "i would actually submit the war on terrorism and iraq threads themselves."

    Ha!


By semillama on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 06:16 pm:

    I'm concerned that our airport security people have "schmutz" on them.


By jack on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 07:57 pm:

    Q: "who is Daria?"

    A: she's this really hot chick on a television program.


By jack on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 09:39 pm:


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By jack on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 11:09 pm:

    let me be the first to point out that what this thread really needs is the voice of janny.


By Janny on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:41 am:

    Jimbo is that you? Marcus?


By Janny on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:47 am:

    He even if I am old, a few tears at the dmv and it's all good for Janny:)


By J on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:56 am:

    Where were we going with this?


By jack on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 08:48 am:

    not jimbo or marcus, sorry.

    i'm not sure where we're going with this and i'm not even sure i'm doing it right (it's sem's idea)....but i know that janny can always come up with the crazy links.


By semillama on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 09:14 am:

    I was hoping for some discussion, but hell if 'm going to talk about some guy in the "Diarrhea-For-Distance" competition.


By jack on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:42 am:

    you're right--that is perhaps a little too close to some of the other threads.


By semillama on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 11:35 am:

    Zing!


By patrick on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:00 pm:

    i still dont know who daria is so this thread is, 75& lost on me.


By eri on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:39 pm:

    Geez Patrick, even I know this one and we all know how out of the loop I am ;)

    Daria is a cartoon character. I believe the show is even called Daria or something close to it. It is/was on MTV.


By kazoo on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:49 pm:

    I love Daria. Her cynicism humbles me, and that guy Trent is dreamy...considering he's a cartoon character. Daria was originally on Beevis and Butthead.


By patrick on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:54 pm:


    MTV 99.9% shit. No wonder I dont know.

    I dont remember her from B&B


By sarah on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 02:12 pm:


    i've never heard of Daria either, but the best thing ever to come out of MTV was Sifl and Olly. that show was the .1%


    so i've inherited this 15" all-in-one TV/VCR thing that my dad had in his Bachelor Bar area * when he lived in ft. worth **. it's in my bedroom of all places. so once in a while (read: if i've been drinking) i've taken to turning it on when i climb into bed around 10 p.m. i've discovered a tv show called That 70's Show or something like that, and i quite enjoy it. a laugh-track sitcom that actually makes me laugh aloud. whodathunk? my favorite character is the mother.

    if i haven't been drinking i don't turn on the tv. instead my usual routine is to read a few chapters or read until i fall asleep.


    * where there also hung Nagel paintings.

    ** after living in ft. worth for 18 months, my dad stuck all his crap in a warehouse storage facility there and moved to hawaii (several years after i had been living there). all his life's possessions had been sitting in that warehouse 5 years untouched when we excavated it together last september. we got rid of most of it. the rest of it has been sitting in my garage since september, awaiting spring for garage sale liquidation. i found the tv in there about 3 weeks ago. it even has a remote! i'm also keeping the big ol gas grill and crystal brandy snifters.




By sarah on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 02:13 pm:


    btw, what *is* the tv show that Daria watches?




By Antigone on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 02:38 pm:

    Itchy and Scratchy


By moonit on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 03:21 pm:

    I love That 70s show, and Daria.


By semillama on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 03:30 pm:

    "Sick Sad Word" is the show she wathces - it's akin to Portal of Evil, I suppose.


By trace on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 04:19 pm:

    THIS IS TRUELY SAD AND SICK:

    Transplant Patient Has Brain Damage
    By EMERY P. DALESIO
    The Associated Press
    Friday, February 21, 2003; 1:09 PM
    Teenager Jesica Santillan, who underwent a second heart-lung transplant after the first was botched, has severe and irreversible brain injury, hospital officials said Friday.


By patrick on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 04:28 pm:

    the saddest part of that, aside from the girl's condition, will be all the law suits to follow.

    while they made a rare mistake, Duke University is still one of the leaders in the field of medicine in this country and the world.

    tragic.


By Rowlf on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 04:47 pm:

    "MTV 99.9% shit. No wonder I dont know"

    that number drops considerably lower when you take into account "Clone High"


By patrick on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 04:54 pm:

    see my .01% was for the Osbornes.


By wisper on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 06:01 pm:

    kazoo!
    i'm also all about Trent. Wowwy. My only answer to the question "don't you think ANY celebrities are attractive??" has always been: "Yes,... but he's a cartoon."
    hah

    i love that show because it's the only one where people wear somewhat normal clothes.
    In fact, all the shows that Mike Judge has started (Beavis+Butthead, Daria, King of the Hill) are great because of their realism. Sometimes too real.


By Joe on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 12:37 am:

    mtv was great in the beginning when it was simply "radio with pictures". they even developed artistic ways to segue from one video to the next in order to match the audio segue. actually, it was addicting at the time.


By eri on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 12:55 am:

    I remember watching MTV before it was big. I watched old Michael Jackson (please forgive me) and Pat Benetar videos and my parents watched them with me. Then MTV got a name and I was not allowed to watch it anymore. By the time I was old enough to watch it, I didn't care anymore. I haven't really liked any of the shows I have seen on it since then. I miss the old music videos.


By trace on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 04:01 pm:

    Transplant
    girl, 17, dies

    Victim of botched operation taken off life support

    NEWS WIRE SERVICES


    Jesica Santillan

    DURHAM, N.C. - The teenager who was put through a second heart-lung transplant after the first was botched died yesterday.
    Jesica Santillan, 17, was declared brain dead at 1:25 p.m. and taken off life-support machines about 5 p.m., said Duke University Medical Center spokesman Richard Puff.

    She was kept on life support through the afternoon so family and friends could say goodbye, the hospital said in a statement.

    Medicine to keep her heart going was discontinued at 5 p.m. Her heart stopped seven minutes later and a ventilator then was turned off.

    Renee McCormick, a spokeswoman for a charity created to pay Jesica's medical bills, said the Santillan family didn't know until then that doctors were taking her off life support.

    "They were hysterical," McCormick said. "The family's been treated so poorly. They're very hurt. These are human beings."

    A family lawyer said hours earlier they didn't want to remove Jesica from life support until an outside doctor verified she was brain dead. The lawyer could not be reached last night.

    The Santillan family declined to donate any organs from Jesica's body, Puff said. Although the newest organs transplanted into Jesica were performing well, her brain began swelling and bleeding shortly after the second transplant, doctors said.


    *************
    Rest In Peace


By semillama on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 10:24 am:


By semillama on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 10:24 am:

    i FREAKING HATE commas in URLs, by the way.


By The Watcher on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 12:14 pm:

    Daria is currently on the Nogin station.

    My local station finally let it slip that Jesica was an illegal alien.

    I would never deny her her needed medical procedures. Nor, would I deny her family the right to come and be with her during her hospital stay. But, they snuck in to the US three years ago! How much welfare money went to support them that could have gone to legally resident families?

    Now that they are about to become multi-millionairs will they give the welfare money back?

    Or, perhaps they could set up a charity in their daughters name that would pay the expenses of other mexican families that need medical attention to come to the US.

    Even better they could set up clinics or even a hospital in Mexico. Then they wouldn't need to come here for treatment.


By semillama on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 12:51 pm:

    Yeah, keep them Mex'cans where they belong! 'Merican for 'Mericans! Yee-Haw!


By patrick on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 01:01 pm:

    they have medical facilities in mexico.

    they are substandard compared to US standards.

    they come here to get better care. They took a risk, like many of us have, to increase the chance of their daughter surviving. You'd do it to.


By agatha on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 07:15 pm:

    Watcher, you truly couldn't be any more callous right now.

    I'm pretty much fed up with everything and everyone. The world is so disappointing.


By patrick on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 07:17 pm:

    its a dark age hon.


    just look at who they gave Grammy's too. Not that I had expectations or anything, but its a political and cultural dark age.


By heather on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 03:07 am:

    they declined to donate her organs, though?


By semillama on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 09:24 am:

    They did? that's just stupid.


By Spider on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 10:15 am:

    Speaking of sick sad worlds....I'm reading a lot about World War I at the moment. It's hard to get accurate casualty statistics, but I've seen numbers that count the total men killed in the war at close to 10 million, with another 20 million wounded or missing. 10 million men and boys lost in four years, and for what?

    It truly warms my heart that France and Germany have banded together to oppose the US.


By The Watcher on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 11:22 am:

    Maybe I am a bit bitter.

    They come into this country illegally and get multi million dollar health care for nothing and I cann't afford to see my own doctor right now.

    Is this a wonderful country or what?


By patrick on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 12:39 pm:

    the fact that you cant afford to see a doctor has little or nothing to do with instances such as this.

    you can do something about situation, just like they did something about theirs.

    you'd do what they did if it were your daughter.


By Joe on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 12:59 am:

    the thing about mtv was that it was addicting for my generation. i lived in connecticut in the early 1980's and my friends from nyc who didn't yet have cable tv were mesmerised by mtv when they came to visit. i remember sunday afternoons when everyone was ready to leave but sat in front of the tv saying, "oh, let's just watch this video and then we'll leave". this would go on for 6 or 7 videos. it was great.


By semillama on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 09:01 am:

    The thing was, videos were more interesting then because they hadn't caught on inteh minds of record company executivesa s a form of commercial, and thus could be more experimental and avant-garde. Also, a lot of the bands that made videos were experimental and avant-garde themselves. I mean, look at all the Devo videos they used to play. PLus the videos by Eurythmics and such.

    Not that there aren't amazing videos being produced today, it's just that the video stations are in the business of playing the commercials masquerading as videos. I mean, when was the last time you saw a Tool video? And I've been trying to catch that Johhny Cash video for days. It's crying shame.


By Spider on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 09:27 am:


By patrick on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 11:37 am:

    go to yahoo videos. we watched all the shit mtv doesnt play the other night. god love dsl.


By The Watcher on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 11:27 am:

    I'm not against people coming here for medical treatment.

    But, there are legal ways for them to do it. Charity cases come to this country all the time.

    Mexico does have some very good medical facilities. But, very few of them.


By patrick on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 11:34 am:

    some people would be dead if they waited for the letter of the law to give them the go ahead to come into this country dipshit`.

    they did what they had to do.


By patrick on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 01:09 pm:

    its a sick sad america that citizens are actually buying this terror alert color-code system and even more sad that legitimate press agencies are reporting on it like they are.


    its a sick sad america the president is using fear to scare americans into supporting his war


    its sick sad america the people are NOT laughing hysterically at Bush's claim that war in Iraq will inspire democracy around the world.


By wisper on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 06:36 pm:

    a while ago they played "Man in the Box" by Alice in Chains on Much Music, which was mind-blowing because even though they supposedly play more videos than MTV, (as you're saying) it's hard to tell modern videos from a coke commercial. Or a coke commercial from a music video. Or a gum commercial from a porno.
    I guess someone was asleep during the all-request show and it slipped through or something.

    DAMN it was refreshing. The whole band looked like shit, and so did the video. It was great. Ripped clothes and dirty hair and no products or hot chicks or anything. No 'rock poses' like that guy from Creed has started and everyone copies now. NO CLEAN, SHINEY, CRYSTAL CLEAR, OVER-PRODUCED VOCALS. The song is about NOTHING. No obvious, litteral lyrics about highschool-level bullshit or beer. No short hair and pretty boys pandering to the pre-teen girl market (the largest commercial market there is right now, btw)
    1993, take me away!

    i know it was all heroin's fault, but if it's heroin these pansy rockstars need to do anything decent.....


By Rowlf on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 06:38 pm:

    In '97 or '98 Monster Magnet released its "space lord" video which was an obvious parody of the Puff Daddy/Ma$e/Bad Boy videos with Vegas, gold painted chicks, bling bling in the background.

    now if you released it people probably would take it seriously, since every other band does that now. Theres no difference between DMX's videos and Kazzer's "Pedal to the metal" or Method of Mayhem... its sad


By semillama on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 09:03 am:

    I'm listening to the "Piece of Mind" album by Iron Maiden (the cd I bought has bad production values - must remember to replace it with the remastered reissues) - 1983 take me away! Now there were some good videos. THere was one that even had Graham Chapman in it from Monty Python. 80s metal videos were so awesome.


By wisper on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 06:08 pm:

    yes.

    that Alice in Chains video was from 12 years ago.
    holy shit.
    1983- 20 years ago.
    holy shit.


By Joe on Wednesday, March 5, 2003 - 12:59 am:

    yeah, holy shit. 1972,...disco. 2002,...costco!


By kazu on Friday, March 5, 2004 - 01:24 pm:


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