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iraqi civilians are being beaten for sport. iraqis stand by the side of the road to sell dinar and AK-47 bayonettes and bootleg whiskey to american soldiers. american soliders regularly mug these people for their wares. i am told a story of a ten year old iraqi boy who had a stack of dinar swiped from his hands. crying, frantic, the boy screams at the solider, explaining that for the to return without dinar or payment will result in the boy being branded a theif and his hand being chopped off. a ten year old boy, and the solider just laughed and fanned himself with the stack of bills. i am shocked. i am told this is common place. i am told that the night before returning to the states a sargent took a group of soliders out. they came up on a man selling bayonettes and hit him hard in the back of his head. he fell to the ground and they stole what he had Then the driver proceeded to run him over, throw the truck into reverse, and run him over again. i am very disappointed. we have a huge opportunity to do something good here, in iraq, and our own soliders are acting against the plans of our government. |
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I don't know how to raise this. The anti-bush people will eat it up, and the pro-bush people will assume it is liberal lies. The truth doesn't seem to matter. |
when has in invading force of 20 somethings equipped with some of the most sophiticated equipment in the world expected to behave? we raped in piliged in Vietnam. further, for many soldiers, its quite easy to scapegoat Iraqis as perpetrators of 9/11. I've read countless stories of soldiers, citing a photo of the trade center, or pentagon they keep above their bunk as encouragement to go out and patrol the streets of baghdad. I even read a story in which the soldier said "its their turn now", referring to the Iraqi populus and suffering a blow like we did on 9/11. i mean really...is ANYONE surprised by this? Yeah, its absurd and disgraceful...the lack of professionalism, but what do you expect? |
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where is the leadership? isn't command and control the edict of the military? isn't everone answerable to someone else straight up the chain? don't the generals care that their privates are undermining the effort? that france will give us a smug "we told you so" when we fail, not because our mission was invalid but because our miltary is incompetent? i was surprised. the leadership should be there. i'm not surprised that this could happen, i am surprised that it is widespread. "common place." and hugely disappointed. all it would take is some serious media coverage and the miltary would clean itself up. |
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"isn't command and control the edict of the military?" Yes, but it is superseded by loyalty to your fellow soldiers. Thus, it's easy to turn a blind eye. |
home to drink beer and sit by the pool is this supposed to raise my opinion of those in the military? |
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but that just takes me back to my implied point that maybe the military shouldn't be accepting as many [most] of the candidates they see, give them a few weeks of training and potentially hand them guns. |
And I bet there would be more coverage of the military, however 1) when ABC interviewed troops and found out they werent happy, a smear campaign was put against the reporter, 2) several recent surveys and research shows over 70% of Americans want "fiercely pro-American news coverage", which means its bad for business. Journalism in America more and more is failed by capitalism, which is unfortunate because most other places have found away for the two to work in harmony. |
1) Fatigue and frustration 2) Facing a hostile population 3) Opportunity to act without consequences 4) Being around others who instigate evil actions Seems all four conditions are ripe. 1 is being exasperated now by stretching our military too thin. 2 is more or less out of our control. 3 is caused by the good ol' boy network that is inherant in the military. 4 will always be there, because there are always crazy, violent folks wherever you go. |
we send them to fight wars. biologically, 90% (my own estimate) of men are unnecessary, yet they (we) all have that conqueror gene. the answer: thousands of years of hell or a biter test, much like we can do with dogs, where aggressive subjects are snuffed. their genes won't propagate and the more docile males will reproduce. how fucked is that? i tell ya, our days on this mudball are limited. good times! |
97-98% of man is unnecessarily displaced functionally fact: only 2-3% of our DNA make-up, or master program, are called genes, which science does have considerable though limited knowledge of,while the function and purpose of the remainimg 97-98% is hardly known. theory: we cannot know for certain the effects of aggressive genes, as they may cause free-radicals in the molecular structuring of the brains cells of our off-spring, which can cause unknown diseases for which there is no defense. in other words, men are the reasons that we have wars in the first place. aggression is an unnecessary evil. we need strong males. rechannel that conqueror gene gentlemen, and over come your hostile aggressions. |
aggressive genes" Ah, quit yer pseudo-scientific gene anthropomorphizing bullshit. |
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anthropomorphizing bullshit? I hope you're face is in front of a big fan blowing on high speed... with your mouth wide open |
take me to the promised land, ronda. |
that's the BULLSHIT. |
its all bad, and we have eve to blame ask your self this: would you have been beguiled by that slithering, slime-covered, ass-munching, belly-crawling, low life of a serpent? |
alas, i can't, with a straight face, pin the tail of the downfall of man on the donkey of an apple binge. if you can, i'd love to hear your testimony. |
alas, can you, with a straight face, pin the tail of the downfall of the garden of eden on the ass of a man? if you can't, I'd love to hear your excuse. |
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what nice try? |
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seriously. |
seriously. |
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i dare ya, ms. brat. |
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I was beguiled, and thought that you were cumming on to me. steamy the apple bit was kind of erotic...yummy until you got defensive. I actually wanted to know what you look like, for a split second are you strong, dave? I wanted, for a fraction of a micro-second, to bear your child. I had to turn-up the air and take off my...and let down my blonde hair but then I thought of the island whores... the henchmen bore me tonite, dave. I'm going to wake up panther instead... another day, geek. |
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now, are we talking computers, here? |
something about apples... computer talk I presume, well let me tell you a thing or two geek... what in the hell is so damn important at 2:15 am? |
what's on your mind? |
you've become shallow. sleep well. |
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What exactly were you doing up at 3 am, Dave? Freak. |
I want ronda, agatha. |
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take me there, dave, take me... fill me up with the apple seeds of good and evil...i thirst for your knowledge i am 21 year old whore from the island of macronesia... and was sold by my people to the Bush people for 200 barrels of crude oil, then shipped to your country, with the political agreement that, i am to have non-sexual, physical contact with the democrate, only my father was promised my immunity from all STDs but, i am allergic to tobacco...no cigars please i hunger to bite the apple |
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I admire birds, but experience has taught me that its their droppings that annoy me... I own a yorkie. he's an independent little fellow. not only does he have a mind of his own, he's house broken. |
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you need'nt apologize for actively being in dave's 90% of men... data bank |
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dick-in-cheek |
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no? turn your fan up. |
si? grow some tomatoes. |
curoius? mucho? muy bien. into open-door voyeurism of the beastiality sort? don't become defensive... there are times when it just might take a horse to do a 90% of men's man's job well. it's a gene thing. |
m'kay? that'd be great. |
Yeah... There's a 1980's era madlib program that wants it's algorithm back. There's a New Jersey hooker who wants her one liner's back. There's a washed up pop psychologist who wants his diagnoses back. Yeah... |
did I hit below the belt. |
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I admire, respect, and love men. |
possibly in the 80's these issues to which you refer, and that I've poked fun at, generated or were the product of anger from women who wanted liberated from not having been happy people to begin with. I was young and carefree and didn't identify with the 80's lib thing...I didn't see these topics played out in my parents home as a child either... men tend to get ridiculed or blamed too much for things its lame to the point of being totally funny. women have an easier go of it on this planet. my posts pointed that out. |
*point out* and even imagine that anyone would read between the lines and see the same thing as you you don't want to know what i see between the lines oh god. i did it again. whatever. |
madlibs. |
its hilarious that you that madlibs were something political. try not trip over yourself too much writing between the lines. |
assumptions |
I miss cap'n thickock. |
the lines between MY NONSENSE POSTS are empty cha-ching!!! cha-ching!!!! cha-ching!!!!! |
C-A-U-G-H-T B-Y A-L-L god, you're much too trusting... |
I,ve been walking all over you for how long now? |
What is RondaWorld? |
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rondaworld is where 100% of the real world has read the same book. "it is important to know when to shut-up." |
hugs and kisses. |
C-A-U-G-H-T B-Y A-L-L god, you're much too trusting..." ronda, we're on to ya. at first you were like a flea bomb. indiscriminate and stunning. very quickly, these fleas built up a resistance to the toxin. now, it's all . . . "oh look, here she comes with the flea bomb again. ummm, hold your breath." personally, i don't care if you poke at and passive-aggressively harass anybody anymore. you shot your wad on day one. so either show me why i, or anyone here, should give you any further attention (a.k.a respect, i know you have something to offer -- offer it!) or go ahead and flip this post back at me ronda-style, continue to be a gadfly and i'll contact your isp. i have all the info i need. it remains to be seen if i have the gumption to do such a detestable thing. i have never been a tattler and i find such people despicable and without honor. i actually identify with you on a lot of levels. i go into irc channels and get almost immediately kicked because the people in the room aren't into my flavor of discourse. they find me antagonistic and aloof. they want me to talk about stupid, lowbrow shit with them. they feel like i'm picking on them when i have nothing but neighborly camaraderie in mind. basically, i and they are oil and vinegar and no one cares to crack an egg, mix it up and make a hero sandwich. c'mon. tell us about yourself. give us some background. get to know me!! or go away. |
what is there to be on to me about? i do not see it that way. i'm right out there. you can just as easily throw my words back at me, and you do, often. i happened, by chance to stumble onto this site, and i don't even remember what i was looking for. i observed some of the dialouge, and wanted to crash in, and for no other reason. i don't know you anymore than you know me. tell me about you, dave. |
i'm much more observant of myself and the world than you credit me for... realize that you aren't talking to a gadfly. some people get so rapped up in who they believe that they are that they confuse things - not referring to myself so i tend to push the envelope in most everything i do... well, so does this message board. so, to make life less confusing for you, i will just go away |
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don't think you should. it was acting like crazy [in the tiresome way] old friends who would pester and pester no matter what you do, and then finally at some point realize they've crossed the line and go- "oh? what? why are you being so harsh with me? i was only trying to be friends" and then go off and pout expecting you to go after them and start it all over again. |
This is sorabji code for "I'm now addicted and will post for the remainder of my natural life." We've all said it. "i'm finding it hard to believe that anyone might have felt offended or harassed by my posts when i consider the language and style that is used by others, not to mention the visuals." It's because you're an outsider. Most humans are strange in that way. |
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Hmmmmmm. |
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That means you're a friend. :) |
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it's the most amazing action figure i've seen. |
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