THIS IS A READ-ONLY ARCHIVE FROM THE SORABJI.COM MESSAGE BOARDS (1995-2016). |
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I fear waking up and reading about some other attack, this time closer to home. Any romantic life i may have had has completely dissipated. Im cranky, edgy, unable to be the loving caring person I am. Im afraid. Every war-monging dumbass word i hear from Dubya's mouth makes me sick and terrified. I pass a vote of No Confidence in our leader. No confidence he will do the right thing, whatever that may be. Im absolutely disgusted and sick of the stories im hearing of innocent people being killed or assaulted because they LOOK like Arabs. This absolutely breaks my heart. As if we need to show our collective ass anymore. Im sick to my stomach. Gut-wrenching fear is taking its toll. And i suppose to some parts of the world this is every day life. But is that fact alone supposed to comfort me? Please. I didnt choose where and how I was brought up, nor the luxuries im afforded. This is land i was given, so I do what anyone else would do. Make the best of what I have. Am I wrong for this because what i have is so much better than what most of the world has? Reminding me of what the rest of the world lacks is fruitless, as its all relative. Im sick, are you sick? |
I have every confidence in the President to do the right thing. He has already said this war will be very different from all previous conflicts. I take that to mean we won't try to overrun Afghanistan. Only try to go after the Terrorists. There and everywhere. I think this President will show us that he may not have the presence or oratory of Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan, but he will do the right thing. |
the things moonit and agatha said on the wayd board made me think of something: i've been here before. in a lot of ways, what's being written on these boards sounds a lot like when i was in the rehab hospital after my spinal cord injury. the different ways people try to cope with the trauma, the way people on the periphery of things cope with it, all that. and all the people telling you what you are supposed to do or feel. when agatha said, "it's not a fucking competition of who has suffered the most," it made me think of that. i remember saying that to a guy with multiple sclerosis, once. when the told me i'd never walk again, whatever hurt i had welled up in me and got as far as my throat until i swallowed it back down. i stared at the acoustic-tile ceiling for a while and just forgot i could ever walk in the first place. things are working out well for me. ;) |
i understand what agatha is saying. but i think what she is directing words at is a human need to align ourselves with other humans. how often have you been talking with someone, telling them about your frustrations with the lackey at the taco stand and they say "oh yeah, i completely understand...." and go on to tell you about their story of the lackey taco kid. though its tiresome...what agatha speaks of, it think its natural and nothing to get mad at. |
or anyone else anywhere, for that matter. |
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This is the first time I have truely know fear.I am terrified.And like you,have remained glued to the news sources.My knees are weak,everytime the radio goes off for a sec,of the lights flicker,I think,"this is it". I am not handleing this well,not well at all. I am trying to pull myself together. Today,I purposely kept the news off.I concentrated on the stupid buggar thing.It helped.I need to stay away from the TV,because I seem to just terrify myself. The waiting is the worst. |
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Last Tuesday, I'd never felt as helpless as I did then -- I work in New Hyde Park on the border of Queens & Long Island -- getting 1 cellphone message on my voicemail at 9:00 am from my girlfriend who works in Battery Park saying her building had been evacuated and she was going to try to get home, and then not being able to get ahold of her all day, wondering if she made it out ok and not being able to help her, but I was one of the lucky ones, because she made it home later that day. I heard the ugliest thing I've heard in a long time yesterday -- an Asian couple, late 50's or early 60's, were sitting in the waiting room speaking together in what turned out to be Filipino, and an old crusty American guy sitting next to them started shouting, "Speak in English! This is America where we speak English, you stupid 'nips'! If the WWII generation still hasn't gotten over Pearl Harbor, this certainly doesn't bode well for traditional American Muslims. |
im also sickened by hearing that wretched bitch Courtney Love talk about how she was going to enlist in the Marines after this ocassion. Sick bitch!! Dougie did you say anything to the asshole? Im so saddened that something like would have had me in that guys face. WHEN WILL WE LEARN!!!!!!???? I've turned off the media, for the most part...I've always kept up with the news and i've gotten to where i just watch Charlie Rose or Ted Kopple before i go to bed (his hair is mesmerizing). The media is TRYING to manipulate me agatha, but Im smart enough to know that and react accordingly. Whats alarming is the 3rd grade rhetoric of our president ..."evildoers" again I'd like pass that vote of No Confidence. He might as well say "those meany meany big bad men" i also smoked some has last night and watched Talented Mr.Ripley last night....which wasnt half bad. |
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I usually listen to NPR on WNYC 93.9 going home from work every day. This past week, it's been dead air because they used to broadcast from atop the WTC. Very eerie. |
saddening im sure it has been said before, and i dont really have a right to say this i guess as im not a US citizen, but i'd feel more comfortable about this whole thing if Clinton were still in charge. |
but i weren't mad. kinda giddy, actually. i'm smilin' right now. y'all will never understand me. |
and it actually made my cry at the end. Not, of course, for Bin laden, but rather for America. |
clinton killed a lot of people. i am beginning to doubt that bin laden had anything to do with the planning or execution of this event. |
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being born here than they are for being born there? name one person who had any say in this matter). but he's an oilman and that industry is conspicuous for it's ableness and willingness to make profit priority 1. research, from all sides, possible incentives to go to war against your competition. you'll find that innocent lives are apparently worth sacrificing for shareholder profits. have we evolved beyond that? doubtful. |
i guess its that whole change thing i dont like i never have done. not really anyway, still i guess it has to happen sometimes, and it often is for the best, i think i hope |
Don't forget Al Gore made his money in the Oil business too. He is a big shareholder of Occidental Petrolium. |
The speech last night was terrifying. His speech writers did a number with a few lines in there. I'm not sure about that Eri...soudns like crap that this warning was made three years ago and ignored. Sounds anti-Clinton spew we here from Trace, valid or not. BinLaden did make warnings that he was goign to attack Americans everywhere, civilian or not, thats old news, but I dont think there was a specific WTC, NYC September 11th 2001 kind of warning. Bush speech made my wife cry because of its absolutes. Seem the gleem in his eyes. He even had a few lines in there that made me think of pops. The motherfucker think its showdown at the OK corral. My wife and had lengthy and at times mundane conversation about National Guard, and consideration to join should our home ever be threatened. My home, liberty, freedom and my family are the only things worth protecting. I don't think it will come to it, meaning i can't see foreign troops on our shores advancing...but should that ever happen, Id take up arms. Meanwhile....shits about to hit the fan. "fighting for us" .....do I have an option? I don't want HIM fighting for me. Bombing Afghanis is not fighting for ME!!!!! Further.....why is the UN left out of this? He said he wanted these people turned over to American authorities, which we know AINT GONNA HAPPEN....why couldnt we have the UN at the helm? The Taliban respects the UN a lot more than they respect us, and it could possibly avoid a jihad being declared. |
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I really do feel sorry for you liberals who like Clinton better because he was more eloquent. Of course, you will get better speach writers if you sleep with them or hook them up with your interns. |
the media scares me, the president scares me, the patriotism scares me. why are we all so violent? i just dont get it. |
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Clinton, other than Carter, was one of the most intelligent men we've had in the white house in ages. You can't deny this. His personal matters are irrelavent. Its facetious to judge a man based on his privatre sexual doings. Politics and sex have nothing to do with each other. If you think he was the first to stick it to an intern or an aid, or use the white house as a hotel for guests, dignitaries and celebrities in exchange for donations, you are also mistaken. He just got caught by a zealous, hypocritcal right wing gustapo who had it in for him since day one. He never got a moments rest. If you wish to talk about his policies and such, thats cool, we talk about that. But his sex scandels and crap are irrelavent to me. I can promise you Clinton's speech writers didn't have to work as hard as Bush's do. All im saying is he provides more comfort with is speech. He's a better communicator. We heard from Mayor Guiliani well before we heard from our commander in chief last tuesday. Using terms like "evildoers" and phrases like "wanted dead or alive" are a fright. That kind of John Wayne talk is bad for the world. Im not sure how you can claim his got his speech writers through bribes....but if you say so. I dont have cable so I cant see the TLC bit. |
Check out the website I left a link to earlier. It has a lot of info. I have no doubt Clinton is intellegent. I have never questioned his intellegence. What I have always questioned was his integrity and ethics. Did you realize that today the Whitehouse ADMITTED that they do not have HARD evidence to link Bin Laden to the attacks on dc and ny? and they were holding off any military action until they did? That was definately a non-Clintonian statement. |
america is like an overpaid athlete. ball control is an oxymoron. neanderthals. |
that is comforting. |
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Im going to be hypocritical, but i think its absolutely hilarious you misspelled "intellegence" while talking about intelligence. Not that is says anything about your intelligence, but its....its.....I wanna say ironic, but thats probably not correct. Coincidence? |
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