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from the Boston Globe |
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I don't quite understand why DSS took her kids, though. That isn't quite making sense to me. I mean, she very well could have been in shock, and not psychotic or something. I dunno. |
"I saw a head, then full baby fall out from her skirt, hit the floor sideways and slide the length of the doorway, stopping when he bumped up against the next row of seats. Still she stared out the window. Either she didn't know it happened or didn't want to acknowledge it." WHAT??????? "....ran across the platform toward Morrissey Boulevard, and hustled up another flight of stairs..." WHAT????? it sounds beyond shock. surreal is more appropriate. i mean....she just let the baby slip out and slide across the subway car. she should be evaluated at least. |
Though I admit that I am bothered that she left her kids in a hotel room where they apparently had been living. That kinda makes me wonder about her. Among other things. |
holy christ. |
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kinda puts it in some B-movie sequence in my head. |
ive seen after birth. you don't scoop that stuff up. i hear giving birth gets easier the more you do it and that might explain her seemingly non-chalant behavior. but "sprinting" up a flight of stairs afterwards just seems fucking unreal. |
I haven't heard of any pagan rituals involving parents eating the placenta. That's just beyond gross. I guess I am just hanging out with the not-so-gross pagans :) |
but many spiritual earthy types do it as its rich in nutrients and whatnot. |
it turns my stomach but so do a lot of things they sell in the grocery store. |
Anyways, I have heard of people keeping the placenta but I never had any idea why they would. The idea of using it as food just sicks me out. I thought it was rather gross the first time I found out some parents kept the umbilical cord. Then it made sense, to put in the baby book, but still I thought it was gross. Placenta? Even worse. |
hair is one thing. if its something that ordinarily would go in the "biohazard" bin at your doctors, why would you put it in a book. |
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Woman goes on trial in Ohio for breast-feeding while driving By KRISTEN GELINEAU RAVENNA, Ohio (AP) - A woman pulled over for breast-feeding her baby while driving on the Ohio Turnpike was shown on videotape at her trial Wednesday refusing to co-operate with troopers until she called her husband for permission. Catherine Nicole Donkers, 29, also would not stand or speak as she defended herself in Portage County Municipal Court until her husband gave her permission from the first row of the audience. The first day ended with Donkers finishing her questioning of the trooper. The trial was expected to continue Thursday. Judge Donald Martell dismissed a request earlier Wednesday by Donkers' husband, Brad Lee Barnhill, to stand in for her at the trial. "I don't see why I'm not in there," Barnhill said during a break. "I directed her to do everything she did that day . . . Under our faith, she obeys me." Barnhill requested that he be prosecuted on several misdemeanour charges because his religious belief is that he is the only one who can punish his wife. Donkers cried as she watched the two-hour police cruiser video of Trooper Adam Doles following her for several kilometres with siren and lights going before she stopped at a toll booth. Donkers said she did not pull over right away because she was looking for a safe place to stop. The tape showed Doles saying to Donkers: "You've got a baby in your lap. You know how unsafe that is?" Donkers, still clutching her seven-month-old girl, refused to hand over her driver's licence and get out of her car until calling her husband. Once he gave the OK, she turned over a homemade identification card. The couple belongs to the First Christian Fellowship for Eternal Sovereignty, a religious group that has a history of challenging state laws. The organization was founded in Henderson, Nev., in the 1990s. It pledges allegiance to Jesus Christ and at times takes a dim view of the government. Barnhill says he is a minister in the fellowship with 650 followers. The judge appeared frustrated than amused by Donkers, who refused her appointed public defender. Donkers read a list of witnesses she planned to call, including Barnhill and her mother. Later she said she left a key witness off the list: the state of Ohio. "I'm not sure we have room in the hallway," Martell said with a laugh. The prosecution's first witness, truck driver George Barrett of Syracuse, N.Y., said he called 9-1-1 on May 8 to report seeing a woman driving with a baby on her lap. "I could not believe what I saw," Barrett said. Over repeated objections by prosecutors, Donkers suggested while questioning Barrett that he had broken the law by reporting her because he didn't know the details of Ohio's seat belt laws. Donkers also questioned Barrett's memory, saying his testimony about the make of her car and licence plate number were incorrect. During a recess, Barrett said he was watching out for the baby. "I've seen too many body bags. I've seen too many white sheets," he said. Donkers is charged with misdemeanor counts of child endangering, failure to comply with the order of a police officer, driving without a licence and several other driving infractions. She acknowledges breast-feeding while driving and says she did nothing wrong. A conviction for misdemeanour child endangering carries maximum penalties of six months in jail and a $1,000 US fine. |
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. I'm glad the judge had a sense of humor. These folks sound completely batshit. |
"because his religious belief is that he is the only one who can punish his wife." Holy shit. I can't believe it. I mean, talk about living in the dark ages. Fuck. That's some scary shit. |
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