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http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6802629/site/newsweek/ Pardon me while I run screaming from the room. although I will say if you voted for Bush, you tacitly support this kind of thing. |
I know a number of people who voted for Bush. After all I live in Texas.....but of all of them I know I can't think of a single one of them supporting this. |
this is why "red" states fucked over america by being too stupid to figure it out that they were being used. i'm not the least bit surprised by this. as the rude one alluded to, if we're just hearing about it, it's already being done. |
Implied by or inferred from actions or statements: Management has given its tacit approval to the plan. |
http://www.bartleby.com/ sadly and not surprisingly most americans just dont care enough. they'll forget about it by the end of the new season of 24. there were considerable immoral actions done by this administration in the past 4 years and americans, th e slim majority chose not pay attention or at least hold anyone accountable. well, except for those foot soldiers who committed the acts. You know, those peons following orders at Abu Ghraib? Darn tootin they'll be court martialed while the man at that top keeps his job. |
"most americans just dont care enough. they'll forget about it by the end of the new season of 24." Tell me about it. Too many people just don't care. As long as they are doing OK economically they don't care. I hear people say that all the time. "except for those foot soldiers who committed the acts. You know, those peons following orders at Abu Ghraib? Darn tootin they'll be court martialed while the man at that top keeps his job." I have been bitching loudly about this for a while now. I think Spunky is tired of hearing my tirades, because he is of the same mind and I just keep going off about it. |
seriously, check around for info on the establishment of "Camp 6" which is where we will be keeping Gitmo detainees that we don't have enough evidence to send them up for military tribunals, so they will never be charged with anything. How long will we keep them? Oh, the rest of their lives. See, the funny thing is, it used to be that Americans demanded that people be treated as innocent until proven guilty, and if there wasn't enough evidence against them, they were let go. I guess that's considered "quaint" now. So basically, we have a class of people in detention whom we have no evidence that they are connected with terrorism, but appparently they've been through so much horror in the detention camps that it would be politically inconvenient for them to ever be free. Down the memory hole with ye! but don't fret, little foreigner or american citizen declared "enemy combatant" - they promise that inmates of Camp 6 will be allowed to socialize so that makes it all ok. And that will be the GOOD new camp to get sent to. The BAD new camps will be in third-world puppet states that aren't as squemish as we used to be about torture. Although, after four more years of Bushco and Gonzalez, perhaps that third-world state will be Alabama or Texas. I'm waiting for the next reality show, where instead of getting kicked off the island or fired, the losers are declared "enemy combatants" and we never see them again for the rest of their lives. |
so it was all a big mistake. heh, sorry for the death. what, you're pissed off at us for killing so many of you over nothing at all? our death squads will be coming around to take your statements. tell 'em all about it. bush is a war criminal. |
" WASHINGTON -- The nation's 55th presidential inauguration, the first to be held since 9/11, will take place this month under perhaps the heaviest security of any in U.S. history. Dozens of federal and local law enforcement agencies and military commands are planning what they describe as the heaviest possible security. Virtually everyone who gets within eyesight of the president either during the Jan. 20 inauguration ceremony at the U.S. Capitol or the inaugural parade down Pennsylvania Avenue later in the day will first go through a metal detector or receive a body pat-down. ---------- Parade performers will have security escorts to the bathroom, and they've been ordered not to look directly at President Bush or make any sudden movements while passing the reviewing stand. --------- They want you to just look straight ahead," said Danielle Adam, co-director of the Mid American Pompon All Star Team from Michigan, which also performed in the 2001 inaugural parade. http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=INAUG-SECURITY-01-10-05 |
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an excerpt: "2/2/2005 Alas, John McCain: Oh, dear John McCain, sweet Senator from Arizona, how the Rude Pundit feels for you. You remember every night, don't you, Senator McCain, the pain and humiliation dealt to you at the hands of the Vietcong. God, what they did to you, in those years in as a POW, held in bamboo cages. How they hurt you, Senator McCain, broke your teeth, broke your bones. How tight were the ropes that bound your arms, twisting them, contorting your muscles. "Torture ropes," as you called them, are meant to make control of a prisoner simple - just a brief pull and the verge of pain upon which you've been living becomes the precipice of pain that you feel. How they beat you, Senator McCain, viciously, on a daily basis, sometimes several times a day, demanding that you say you're a criminal, a terrorist, if you will. They fucked you up - they re-broke bones that had healed, they jumped on injuries, they starved you, and they made you stand for days on end. And they questioned you, over and over and over. They say solitary confinement is an unending nightmare, and you were not only alone - your ventilation and light had been cut off, and the hell of your loneliness was compounded by the wet heat of the peninsula. You know, Senator McCain, you alone in that Senate chamber know what is what when it comes to torture. And you also know that the moment will come when even the hardest men will break and gladly confess lies about themselves. After nearly killing yourself because of the constant pain, you signed a confession. You wrote, "I am a black criminal and I have performed the deeds of an air pirate," words you knew were ludicrous at best and baseless lies at bottom. But you signed, you signed, you just wanted the fucking pain to end and who, really, could blame you but cowards and liars themselves. Yes, yes, we know that you were a real soldier of a nation's military, a real prisoner of a real war so that the breaking of the Geneva Convention was more clear-cut. But, in the end, what happened to you meets the boundaries of legal torture laid out in the memo that Alberto Gonzales requested: you were never brought to organ failure or, indeed, death. If you support Gonzales or the President on this, what you will say is that others deserve what you went through, that your torture at the hands of your captors will be simply the average, expected behavior of our nation towards those we pre-deem evil. Like the North Vietnamese believed you were." That guy should have Dan Rather's job. |