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a few others come to mind... Slater Kinney (ughhhh but HEY girl band) Cat Power (again...ughhh but HEY girl band) The Donnas (again...silly sparkly glitter tee wearing Ramone rip offs but they gotta be better than Garbage or No Doubt) actually you'd probably really like those 3 bands.. more local acts Texas Terri and The Stiff Ones, she's Iggy with taped up tits...im not sure how well their stuff is available. Mia Doi Todd, Betty Blowtorch, 3rd Grade Teacher, Leather Hyman...all female lead groups. pez if you rely on the mainstream media to get your music....you're gonna get the corn-fed poop like garbarge and no doubt. open you eyes. |
I like garbarge, and garbage too, at least their albums. I heard them live on Letterman and that was pretty disheartening though. Shirley Manson's hot. |
No all-girl groups, though. I think the only female vocalist on there is Mary Timony from Helium. |
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i have imani coppola (a female pop-rapper) and kittie around here somewhere. poe is also in my collection, but sometimes i have to go back to the old classics to get some good girl sound: i usually can't remember the names, however. hrm. i better go back to practicing piano. if i can renew my skills and learn some guitar, i might be able to find some people to play with. |
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000005DCH/o/qid=986322628/sr=8-2/ref=aps_sr_pm_1_2/107-0309545-9915732 |
so whether or not you think Garbage is quality music is really moot. "i want to be shirley manson so i can be confident enough to wear short short skirts." since when is self confidence derived from pop stars? you speak of all these other issues, such as the male/female roles, pressures of the media on a girl and stares of guys. unless im overlooking the sarcasm in your statement here....im totally confused, as it seems you are too. i bet shirly gets lots of stares from boys, in her mini skirts, i bet she enjoys every damn bit of it too. |
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I don't like much of Garbage either. But I do like some rap. Dougie, you should listen to Outkast's song "Gasoline Dreams." As the Sewer Urchin would say, "Aw, neat." |
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they aren't girls, but sometimes girls sing! i've noticed, patrick, that you tend to like bands that have low production values. |
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Thanks, Rhiannon. Actually, Patrick was disparaging Garbage, calling them "corn-fed poop", whatever that means; I like them, however. Will check out your recommendations. And do check out that link above -- even if you don't know a lick of french, it's still a great listen. |
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**DON CABALLERO** **The Dirty Three** oh, yeah! *Slint's "Tweez" album and the untitled single *Phylr (ex-Cop Shoot Cop...industrial-ish) *Rachel's *Paul Newan (not the actor) *Big Lazy (formerly known as Lazy Boy) ...lots more... |
Neither did Patrick, hard as he tried. Garbage is hardcore pop. A new twist on an old formula. Easy or not, I like it. |
And it's Paul Newman. Sea & Cake are nice, too. If you like hardcore pop, try the Dambuilders' first album, Encendedor. It's pop, but it's substantive and intelligent, and you won't feel bad for liking them. |
my boyfriend sort of wants to see the soft boys, but I doubt I will go because I loathe robyn hitchcock. |
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Friends of mine who had never heard the Dirty Three before seeing them with Nick Cave in New York are now desperate to buy their albums. David Yow of the Jesus Lizard, according to an interview I read, has seen the Dirty Three over 40 times, and he's cried at every show. Pez, you're getting one Dirty Three song. |
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I saw them in atlanta several years ago. they were great. i only have their first album, whose title slips my mind. I don't think Sea and Cake are as good as tortoise...and further a band that precedes tortoise that i think is the best of them all is Gastr del Sol. but i also think their music can be pretentious as well. I hope when i go to Chicago in May I see some math rock. one of my favorite chicago groups...not a part of the math rock scene is this cat named Bobby Conn. We played a gig with him and a million other bands at this weekend long experimental/rock fest. I just remeber he wore a big wig, a butterfly collar jacket with big ass brown shaded jackets and blasted this seemingly repetative song "Im Bobby Conn...Im Bobby Conn....I'm Bobby Conn!!!!!!!" |
geraldine fibbers jessamine lucky me those 3 are about all i listen to that feature women. |
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some others i thought of for you pez...patti smith, nico, kendra smith, mazzy star. |
are "roman holiday" and "sabrina" the only films in which audrey hepburn played an ingenue who cut off her hair in a big european city? |
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yeah if your lookin for girl power....the 2 gals in Nashville Pussy would put hair on the chest of 10 year old boy. |
i want something better to worship. music is my soul and i hunger to fill it with good quality. to quote the rockbiter, the rocks are empty. actually, that reminds me, rhi...i need to check the mail. |
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THINK Abba |
the kostars the gossip vandemonium (my sister's band) mirah cadallaca (i love them) lois barbara manning scrawl vomit launch kristin hersh rebecca pearcy seven year bitch sick bees the botswanas geraldine fibbers (x100000000) lucinda williams (not punk, but still awesome) that's about all i can think of right at this moment, but i'll be back with more. |
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neko case lauryn hill laika aimee mann portishead liz phair broadcast pram royal trux stereolab |
i'm not a big luscious jackson fan but the kostars (up on agatha's list), a side project thingy, put out an album that was pretty darn good. it even had ween as co-stars. i think of jessamine as a girl band mostly because i think dawn's singing and bass playing is integral to the sound. even though she doesn't sing every song, she sings most of them and those are the best songs usually. also, jessamine are not portishead clones. many people who hear them draw that comparison. they're way better in an organic kind of way. carla bozulich can sing the flesh right off of you, patrick. she's pretty damn hot, too. |
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** the previous statement was not based on any verifiable source. just something my buddy heard and passed on to me. ** |
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Rhi - got candy yet? |
"I wanna tell you about my home town. It's a dusty old jewel in the south Pugett Sound. Where factories churn, and the timber's all cut down, and life goes by slow in Tacoma." I love that song. |
L7 Bikini Kill Bratmobile The Muffs Helium The Breeders and any other fucking band Kim Deal was ever in Whale The Cranes And as long as someone had the good taste to mention the Donnas, what about their prototype....THE RUNAWAYS?????? Yep....I'm an old fart, alright.... Belly Throwing Muses(more on the gentle side) Salem 66 (old Boston Jangle rockers) And, of course---THE DICTATORS!!!!!!!! (Okay----there are no girls in the Dictators----but the Dictators always deserve to be mentioned whenever music is discussed) Patti Smith, Nico, Marianne Faithful----all good choices.... OH!!!!! Check out DIAMANDA GALAS-----but ONLY! ONLY!!!!!! If you have nerves of steel. |
Pez, you are absolutely forbidden to do any research on Ms. Galas until you first hear the song on the mix. No searching for soundclips, no searching for articles, no talking to people about her....you must have virgin ears when you meet her on tape. Got that, sister? |
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What'd you send her....????? |
Ummm...Skeleton Key, Mark Lanegan, Velvet Underground, Sonic Youth, Elliot Smith, Mule, Scratch Acid, Tom Waits, Fugazi, Tsunami, Helium, Pulp, Sebadoh, Girls Against Boys, Firewater, Cop Shoot Cop, Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, ummmmm, Brainiac, old Nirvana...can't remember what else. This is just supposed to be an introduction to what else is out there besides Crazytown(!). Just a taste. |
but if not, then add young marble giants and cocteau twins and blondie and the vaselines and cub and tsunami and guv'ner and elastica and veruca salt and the raincoats and liliput and the slits. and the supremes! I've only heard one whale song, but it's really good. no one's little girl. the only bands I listen to nowadays are pj harvey (I've been in a pj phase since 1993) and the monks. I thought I was going to fall asleep at that guided by voices show last friday and at that nick cave show last thursday. |
You like her new album, cyst? With the exception of 3-4 songs, I don't. |
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the very worst one is "the whores hustle and the hustlers whore" song. yuck. I love the "good fortune" single and the "rooftop in brooklyn" song, and I like the thom yorke duet. (oh, I guess that is just three songs.) I think one of the sorabji entry quotes (it's a little bit you, it's a little bit me" is a line in the last song on that album. |
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*j: it's Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. I still like Adam Ant, too. *I saw another Paul Bernardo entry quote yesterday, which disturbed me. *a sort-of friend from England just sent me two mix CDs he made, and one has these 3 Belgian bands on there that I like a lot: Soulwax, dEUS (which I always thought was a heavy-metal band), and Evil Superstars. They all remind me of a band my brother likes called the Faint....they've got that same '80s Atari-soundtrack-like sound. The other CD is full of American alt-country. Funny how that appeals to him so much. He knows more about it than I do. (Though I see he is as taken with Will Oldham as I am. He gets points for that.) |
am listening to kittie. yayness. |
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Oh----yes yes yes on Veruca Salt----the new alb is KILLER. I really dug PJ Harvey back circa "Rid of Me"/"Man Size"/"50 Foot Queenie"---"Big, Black Monsoon"(I know that's not the actual song title)---w/her original band....after that I'm not overtly familiar---I just always think she's kind of a cool figure---- OH! PEZ! Check out Shonen Knife.... J: Yeah, Nick Cave came substantially AFTER the Seeds. My personal faves of his: "From Her to Eternity", "The Firstborn is Dead", "Your Funeral/My Trial", "Murder Ballads", "Tender Prey"...."Henry's Dream" has a few titanic moments. Last album I'm aware of him putting out is "The Boatman's Call"----which, to be honest, I didn't especially care for. He was previously in a band called The Birthday Party---a band I really love, but like Diamanda----for strong stomachs. |
I really, really like Nick Cave's "Papa Won't Leave You, Henry" off of "Henry's Dream." But "Murder Ballads" is the only Nick Cave album I have. So..."From Her to Eternity" is a good recommendation? I also gave Pez the Birthday Party's "The Friend Catcher." PJ Harvey's "Rid of Me" is my favorite out of her albums. Maybe I should have given Pez some Dead Can Dance? I have every one of their albums, but really only like "Aion" and "Spleen and Ideal" -- from their Medieval period. Their tribal stuff is all right, but I'll take "The Promised Womb" over "The Spider's Stratagem" any day. It also helps that "Aion"'s cover is a detail of Hieronymus Bosch's "The Garden of Earthly Delights." Pez, here is an assignment for you if you'd like: Go here and listen to the soundclips, and tell me if you like what you hear. |
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"From Her to Eternity" might still be my favorite Cave/Seeds alb, hands down. Check it out, then tell me what you think. For my money, anything except "The Boatman's Call" is at least GOOD. OH FUCK. I have "The Singer"....it doesn't even BEGIN to cover Diamanda.... For hardcore Galas, check out "The Plague Mass", "Vena Cava", "The Litanies of Satan" (her interpretation of Baudelaire's poem)---This stuff is HARROWING,btw---"Masque of the Red Death" is a fave as is her collaboaration w/John Paul Jones---"The Sporting Life". Me, Crimson & my ex-roomie/co-producer caught L7 opening for Manson in Springfield, MO back in '97....sadly we only caught the last two songs----the obligatory "Pretend we're Dead" and the showstopper, "Nicola..."--killer, Wish we'd caught the whole set. An ex of mine had an ex-BF/roommmate who used to date their bassist, Jennifer Finch----but she was out of the band at that point----so it wasn't like we could name-drop the guy and get backstage.... Finch said that their experience on Lolapalooza was miserable....they dubbed it "Dollop of Losers". Altho she said the only person on that tour who was good to them was George Clinton of P-Funk....no big shock. George rules.... ALTHO Nick Cave did speak highly of L7. |
take is easy, greasy, love me 'til i get enough take it easy, greasy, now baby, don't get so rough the jaybird say to the peckerwood i'll let you peck it like a pecker should so take it easy, greasy, love me 'til i get enough i got to have it, love me 'til i get enough |
boatman calls and firstborn are a fanfuckingtastic albums. her to eternity isn't. the birthday party rules. |
last night I just remembered I like a band called transistor. chick singer. |
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"Eternity" still might be my favorite, tho. A couple of you were mentioning catching Cave recently...how was it? Is Blixa Bargeld still with him? Just picked up the new Toadies alb as I write this I'm about 10 songs into it and not one bad song yet....goddamn. Why did this take them 6 or 7 years to put out????? Einsturzende Neubauten(Speaking of Blixa) have a new one, too....looks like a double set. I could jizz, right now.... |
"All the little chicks With the crimson dicks * Go Cleveland Rocks Clevland Rocks..." * dicks should be lips, but dicks seems like it rhymes better. Hey Patrick, you like rap, hence you're an expert on rhyming, what do you think -- dicks or lips? |
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i got your mixes today. i haven't listened to them yet because it's late and i just got home from work. i like the covers though, tintin is tres cool esp. if you can find the comix in french. i'm going to dye my hair tomorrow and i'll listen to them then. |
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What were the cops' names? Dupont et Dupond....(Thompson and Thomson, I THINK) |
am listening to the tapes, haven't gotten very far yet, but i like what i hear. |
Mi piace molto il piccolino Snowy. I don't know French, sorry. Captain Haddock just ROCKS. You're making me happy, Pez. How far have you gotten? And I want details...what do you like and why? |
no particular song title sticks in my mind except "the piano is drunk" or somesuch, but i know it's by tom waits. it was quite a bit different from what i expected...i was thinking hardrock/hardcore, but this is a lot easier to deal with. i'll prolly listen to it for hours and hours on friday and give you a better post on my reaction. thank you, though, the music is good, and i like it. |
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I also liked Thompson with a P as in psycology. I think my favorite books were Cigars of the Pharoah and The Blue Lotus, which I originally got in German on a trip overseas with my grandparents. On another trip, with my parents, I bought two bowls with a picture of the Thompson Twins. They were from a tea set. Each piece had a different picture from The Blue Lotus. Someday, I'd love to find the rest of that set. |
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So there, you Bashi Bazouk! Ectoplasm! I love the little kid (Abdullah?) who makes fun of Haddock. "Again, Blistering Barnacles! Fall down the stairs again!" |
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liz phair played my work today. she sat on a stool, wearing the second-shortest shorts I've ever seen. I sat in the second row. the seat right in front of her was the last seat taken. she played a couple of new songs and a few old ones, including "the divorce song" and "stratford on guy." I realized that in the last 10 years I've probably never made a mix tape without a liz phair song on it. |
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they seemed to be popular on ridiculously wealthy young hotties driving gross SUVs or kickass foreign sport coupes. ive come to appreciate a woman with a little more 'junk in the trunk' , that is those who are not usually wearing the short shorts. the short shorts girls we're so obviously single that it was nearly unattractive. girls pushin strollers get my eye more these days. |
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my favorite liz phair song is fuck and run. she's playing in austin next month, with flaming lips and starlite mints on the same bill. nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah. |
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The shortest shorts I've ever seen were on a woman pushing a stroller or carrying a baby. I don't remember. All I remember is the ass (which I have on videotape). And that my friend M's friend would call her a MILF. It's the 1970s and we're at Disneyland, both hanging out with Tigger. Except I'm wearing long purple pants and a yellow T-shirt. And she's wearing a halter top and these tiny little shorts. Tigger and I are smiling for the camera, and she's standing with her back (ass) to us. Imagine the line where the bottom of the ass hits the top of the back of the thigh. And then imagine a second line, the one that would go through both dimples above the ass. The bottom of the shorts are right in the middle, curving upward toward the sides of the legs. I'll take a picture and show you. |
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in other cultures women who havent had puppies are really desired, or sought after so much as women who have, like a benchmark or something. I think, generally i get it. |
Pardon me while I dream for a few moments about Stephen Colbert... |
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I'm having an art show in Seattle on July 3rd, are you going to be around? How you say... MILF? |
i've also been enjoying 2 lone swordsmen's "a virus with shoes". btw, i didn't mean to offend you with my dislike of fischerspooner. hopefully, you weren't. keep recommending stuff please, oh pretty please. |
I've never heard of prefuse 73 or any of the others you mentioned. I will investigate. The only new band I've heard lately (and whose name I remember) is Calla. They're kind of...um...emo, I guess you'd say. I don't know if you'd like them. There's a semi-local band (I think they're from Richmond) called Engine Down that I've been listening to and I like. It's just guitars, bass, drums, and vocals, but they have very interesting chords and chord progressions, and I'm digging it. |
http://www.geocities.com/octaver88/MILF.html |
But the shorts are short, and that's what's important, right? |
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the future of rock n' roll |
It seems as though there are many different bands on that website. |
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All Girl Summer Fun Band Dunno if they're any good. They seem to be relatively popular with some of the DJs. |
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my boyfriend's band is playing with the all girl summer fun band later this month. saturday I went to a charity auction and bid $20 on a duran duran cd signed by john taylor. |
Recognize it you should it was the theme for the Drew Carey show which did its finale episode last year. Anyways it wasn't the only theme song though there also was "moon over parma" and "5 0 clock run" and more |