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I was always able to get rental payphone numbers by calling my beeper and recording the number, but it was apparantly as the NTT people had said, because no number was displayed when I called from an ordinary phone.
Well, I have word from the Japanese-Mac-Underground that NTT is full of it and every payphone has a number - usually written in the phone box area.
I'd love to go on, but I have yet to find an English-speaking counterpart with whom I can study the phone systems here in Japan.
Drop me a line sometime.
I popped open the box (they have keys, but you just tip open the lever and turn it and the box opens) and looked inside. Same box same guts. There was a set of wires for each apartment. And the NEAT thing was that you wouldn't have to strip anything here at all! You could just clip to the screws sticking out!
Anyway, I closed the box 'cause I had nothing with me at the time - and it IS a little too close to home, but it definately opens some avenues for entertainment/education. (I wonder what a random rearrangement of phone lines would be like?)
Next time I see one of these telco guys with his head in the box, I want to drive off with his car (just borrow it of course) and then with a a little privacy, get some good working materials.
I was recently solicited by a company here in Japan that offers a service which renders the basic-fee on your phone bill to zero. Sound interesting? Let me give you some background.
First of all, NTT (Japanese version of AT&T) charges you about 1700 yen or currently, around $13 dollars a month for having a phone in your house. Now before you can do THAT, you must purchase the right to use a line. It's a bunch of bullshit that they shovel on to the public here saying that without a line you cannot use a phone. Well, YES, if there was no line you COULDN'T make a call unless it were cellular. Anyway, you pay over $500 dollars for this "right" which you can take with you if you move. (for that kind of money, you can be SURE I'll take it with me!) So you pay them to do the "construction" work to move a line to a new location. (BTW, I watched this guy - and he didn't like it - when I had a line moved to a new office location. He put a fusebox-like thing that basically connected the wires together - bang! $20 bucks. I was happy though because I noticed all the other lines with bare screws!! Fun!!)
Okay, you've paid $500 bucks for the "right" to use a phone, $20-30 for various set up fees and now you pay $13-15 each month to let your phone sit there. Now if you want to call your neighbor to borrow a video or whatever, you get to pay 10 cents every 3 minutes or if you call at night, you get the cheap rate of 10 cents for 4 minutes. It only gets steeper with distance.
Now with THAT in mind, here comes this company. They say that I lend/sign over my "right" to a phone line to them and while my phone number stays the same and you can still call me from any phone the same way you used to, I have to dial '0' to get an OUTSIDE line before I dial my number. This is because my line has somehow become an extension of this company's phone system. I was rather impressed with this. They must be getting their money by selling me 10 cents / 3 minutes phone calls while buying them from NTT for 8 cents or something. Then the basic-fee on my monthly bill becomes zero. Nice. I like that.
There are some drawbacks. There are several services (paid for services) provided by NTT that I will not be able to use. O well.
My curiosity lies in this. If my line becomes an internal line of this company, then can I somehow call my friend who is also on an internal line for free...?
Any systems like this in the states? I would like some input on this.
That has to be bullshit. Is it like that everywhere in Japan? If so, that sucks.
Sorry to say that and in no way do I mean any
talking into a vast nothingness, but so be it...
Went to visit a girlfriend last week. On the
bottom floor of the building was one of those
"pink payphones" they have here in Japan. Great
location. Surrounded by apartment and wall.
There's a line that comes out of the phone, into
a box and then from the box to the wall. The box
is closed with ONE screw. Open it, attach a few
alligators and you have instant free calls!
I think I will just replace the payphone with a
regular phone and put up a sign that says,
"Curtousy of NTT."
Perhaps you are referring to the remade phone
cards the Iranians used to be selling out front
of the stations all over Japan? (for those of
you who don't know, these guys used to hang out
in droves shuffling remade phone cards like poker
dealers in Vegas saying in crappy English (or
Japanese) "You wanna buy a phone card? Very
cheap for you today!")
Anway, NTT pretty much fixed the phones so those
cards can't be used - as far as I've learned, but
good old beige box phreaking still works like a
charm! Just check out your local train station
where there are lines of payphones set up. Check
behind them on the tables they rest on. Usually
you can find some of the boxes (3 1/2 inches
long) that open up easy enough with a phillips
driver. Then aligator clip clip and bingo!
you've got a dialtone! Have fun!
Just had a sit down chat with a guy who has been
working with NTT for over 20 years.
Re: Iranian made phone cards. They still work,
but not on the new phones NTT has been replacing
the old ones with. Few left that will accept the
forged cards. That, and nobody is selling them
Payphones - why anyone used to come here...
Payphone numbers will have the same 3 digit
prefix as the area and the last 4 digits will
usually start with or end with 42 or 49. (if you
speak Japanese, you'll understand why. It's kind
of a "13" sort of thing.) So instead of having
to ring 10,000 possible combinations (4 digits)
you only need to try 100. If you don't
understand what I'm talking about or know
anything about permutations (sp?) then just
good to be back!